It was a bomb, not a second plane, who said a second plane...I saw it no second plane!

Interested viewers who can stand reading this daft thread will be wondering how in the hell the "evil-perps" managed to blast the building into a good approximation of a plane shape, but with most of the exterior pushed inwards!


Now these "explosives" weren't quite as magic as the demolition charges hushabooms used during the collapse, but explosives that actually PULL the exterior structure INWARDS, that's not too shabby!

 

Yeh, very odd how fuzzy those inwards ones are compared to the rest of the pic.

The big piece was obviously cut on the top and the bottom and simply fell at an angle and got caught in that position.

But more importantly, how did the corner column get cut?

No believer has ever put up a 'rational' explanation for that gorilla in the room, nor the other columns that are cut outside the alleged impact zone?

 

Haha. I said this was a crock of crap. Now the bent in outer cladding "fell at an angle". I'd say you can't make up this level of failure, but clearly you can. And apparently impact force cannot be transmitted through connected steel columns and cladding to affect other areas.

Truly facepalming stuff.

No. The cladding is bent inwards. Everywhere you look, irrefutable. But now we know there isn't any "no-plane batshittery" to claim magic explosives, just the ridiculous "fell at an angle" hogwash.

 

I see that in the pic below!

and sliced right through at a 45 just like a cutter charge!



757's are amazing!

 

Twenty years and he still can't get the damn plane right?

Viewers reading this thread who are amazingly on any fence or confused would do well to understand the nature of kinetic energy from a jet airliner travelling at maximum speed. Maximum take-off weight of a Boeing 767 315,000 lbs (minimum 176,000 lbs) travelling at 500mph+ is colossal.
https://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter IV Aircraft Impact.pdf
"Taking the estimated airplane mass at the point of impact to be M = 127 tons and the impact velocity of Vo = 240m/s , the energy of the striking aircraft was Ekinetic = 3658MJ ."

Equivalent to 0.8743 Tons Of TNT!

 

plus one cutter charge to slice the corner as shown in the video clip you so kindly supplied! thanks btw for proving explosives were used!

 

We know that the magical cutter planting cgi plane did not hit the corner!
clearly I wont be getting a 'rational' explanation here either.

 

Please try not to deliberately misrepresent what I say. I hope it helped you that the plane was a 767 not a 757. It must be confusing for you.

You just did. If you are unable to rationalize something, the problem lies with you.

Did you think the invisible team of magically-employed psychopathic demolition experts, disguised as elevator workers, somehow took it upon themselves to place a cutter charge hushaboom far from where the plane hit, just so it looks like the natural laws of physics hold up?

You know, 0.8743 Tons of TNT hitting an area and unbelievably transmitting some of that impact energy through cross beams and surprisingly terminating at the end of the beam? You are deflecting and obfuscating the 100 ton elephant sitting on your head.



The magic explosives that suck the exterior cladding inwards?

 

Let's zoom in shall we:

If somebody wants to use the word "rational" then they should look at the damage to the OUTSIDE of the vertical supports bent INWARDS. The poor woman far right shows the scale of these columns!


/thread

 

Nice pics!

All that is very easily done by explosives in combination with thermate!



They are bent sideways


How come they look like exploding cigar cartoons? Hmmm?





big badda BOOM!

 

People in th eindustry are fully aware that is completely meaningless lol

What about that GORILLA in the room?

How does that explosively cut column that has been clearly blown OUTWARD and cut at a 45 degree angle (JUST LIKE A DEMOLITION), where no part of the alleged plane even came close fit into this imbecile moron theory?

Thats a HUGE FAILURE in the believer position.

Here again since you constantly fail to address this little GORILLA in the room:



/Dodging

 

We can even see that the explosively cut column from the magical demolition plane has shifted outward due to the weight above the cut, totally ready for someone to pull the trigger and bring it down!

/Dodging

 

BENT INWARDS, no magic thermate explosives hushabooms here. Just wilful evasion.
Once again another thread game over massive columns bent inwards, and some batshit about gorillas when simple energy transmission within metal is the easy to understand explanation. But then again I've made that point quite clear and all we get in return is the irony that I am dodging.

Yet the post before, evaded, contains this:
Did you think the invisible team of magically-employed psychopathic demolition experts, disguised as elevator workers, somehow took it upon themselves to place a cutter charge hushaboom far from where the plane hit, just so it looks like the natural laws of physics hold up?

You know, 0.8743 Tons of TNT hitting an area and unbelievably transmitting some of that impact energy through cross beams and surprisingly terminating at the end of the beam? You are deflecting and obfuscating the 100 ton elephant sitting on your head.

 

TNT didnt hit the building, that is absolute nonsense.

Nothing was necessary to HIT the building to get the damage you are pointing out.

All that is needed is a creative demolition 'expert'.

Do you know any?

I have yet to see any on point natural laws of physics posted, nonsequitur as usual.


Now lets talk about cutter charge used on the corner:




Nothing HIT the corner!

/Strawmen
/Diversions
/Dodge

 

Noise. The kind of noise put up to bait. But it won't work.

• People saw the plane.
• People heard the plane.
• People filmed the plane.
• Bits of plane were ejected.
• The impact points bent inwards - no amount of batshit diversion alters that.
• No-planers are the flat-earth of 911.

Haha, what "industry" is that? The kinetic energy from an impacting 767 (yes a 767 not a 757) is astronomical. People in the scientific world are well aware of how vast that energy is and how much damage it causes. Posting sad little pictures with gorillas in them is diversion from profound ignorance.

The impact damage is bent inwards.

/thread

 

Did you think the invisible team of magically-employed psychopathic demolition experts, disguised as elevator workers, somehow took it upon themselves to place a cutter charge hushaboom far from where the plane hit, just so it looks like the natural laws of physics hold up?

The sickest irony possible.

 

Yep, as you may have guessed folks, NO laws of physics yet posted, just more dodging!

Does anyone else know what laws of physics he is talking about? Invisible ones right?

So do you think that magical plane was loaded with fairies that and they installed cutter charges while flying 5000 mph?

People testified they were looking at the tower.

People testified they saw NO plane.

People testified they heard NO plane.

People testified they couldnt film a plane that didnt exist.

Yes from a pickup truck!

No amount batshit diversion changes the fact they are squished together and blown apart like exploding cigars as proven in your pic.

planers are the flat-earth of 911

Wow! Sounds like a lot!
How much is it?

How vast is it? That sounds like a really lot! Will it get my car ro alpha centauri?

I bet its a really lot of damage.
How much damage will it cause?

So many unanswered questions from these posts!

Then there is still that big assed gorilla in the planer-camp, that cutter charge in the corner that sliced that corner column isnt going to go away, and I hope everyone takes note is being completely ignored because it really ****s up the planer religious beliefs.

Now that we know cutter charges were used the OS is destroyed.

They did the same thing on wtc2 before the invincible plane stuck its nose out. LOL

It proves how pathetic the nonsense in the previous post really is.

Again: Please take note of the red arrows, they are squished.




this incessant dodging it probably going to go on forever folks, its what planers do when their religion is challenged and they have no answers to support their claims.

/Dodging

 

So let me get this straight…some magical people placed some charges that went off exactly when the cgi planes hit the building to make it look like a real plane hit the building and then had more charges on the same floors, unaffected by the first charges to bring the buildings down … incredible plan!

 

Only in the minds of planers, not the rest of us.

Yeh and that is really difficult since cgi planes arent real!



They should have hired the cgi team from the matrix, they might have pulled it off!




They are all a figment of your TV screen! LOL

Sure!

Not a problem for a demolition team.

fool proof!

At least on paper. Even if they hired the cgi team from the matrix, there is still that little fly in the ointment, that cutter charge problem. Well and squished columns. Oh yeh and the ones that look like exploded cigars. All easily explainable with exposives, impossible with planes

 

the rest of the people? … you mean deluded trolls?

 

so we find one column that someone thinks was hit with a cutter charge and BAM … case closed …

 

Its good start to watch the planers dodge the facts, oh there is a mountain of evidence to prove explosives, its the most fun to pick the pics and videos that planers use as their evidence to prove out all the defects in the planer religious movement

Hell that .8 ziggatriggagazillaton of TNT didnt even start fires all the way around the building lol

Powerful stuff though, vast unfathomable kinetic energy that can leap tall buildings in a single bound! Just feel the power! wow... Im so feeling it!

 

well then, show us that mountain of evidence … so far you have failed … miserably …

 

so a fuzzy picture appears to show a sheared column supposedly done by cutter charges but no burn marks … damn man, great technology… perhaps that was cgi as well …

nevermind … someone seems to be backing off the cgi claims just like nukeboy has abandoned his claims for a few years now …

 

All that noise and denial, of absolutely obvious evidence. I very much doubt there is anyone on any fence about there being planes. Twenty plus years later, this moronic idea about no-planes has luckily died the ridiculous death it deserved - yes, amazingly and truly sadly, there are still a few who astonishingly still push this absurd case. All anyone can do is to post the obvious evidence to thwart their attempts to pollute the minds of others.

Let's set the scene at "Evil-Planners-R-Us". Early planning meeting where 1,2 or more of these unknown people are having a preliminary discussion on what to do once the planes are hijacked/or whatever.

Shadowy figure 1: Right, so once we've got control of UA175, fly towards New York and hit the other WTC building.
Shadowy figure 2: No. I disagree. I think we should use a bomb. Nobody will notice.
Shadowy figure 1: Ok, so doesn't that kind of complicate it a bit?
Shadowy figure 3: I think we should use a military plane instead.
Shadowy figure 1: Sorry guys, surely we're needlessly complicating this?
Shadowy figure 2: No, not at all. Piece of cake.
Shadowy figure 1: Well now....

• Now we have to involve countless numbers of people to dispose , of the actual plane!
• Burn it up and distribute parts all around Manhattan! Including a plane engine!
• HEY, why don't they just PRETEND to corroborate the serial numbers!?
• We have to coerce all the eye-witnesses.
• Dozens of different videos have to be fabricated and the people involved coerced!
• Numerous live transmissions have to have magic overlay/composites when the target is moving!
• We have to involve a team to blow up the building/launch the missile/other plane whichever batshit alternative is suggested!
• Such a team of experts must be invisible to others, gain access to the entire building somehow and plant magic explosives that pull the exterior of the building INWARDS!
• Enormous "thermate-cutters" need to be installed! How big do you figure just one would need to be to cut one column?
• We have to dispose / murder all the passengers, dismember some of them and scatter their DNA all over the crash site!
• Now we have to get actual passengers to fabricate(really!) their audio transcripts and phone calls!
• There are 47 columns just on the inner core. So how many charges do you figure to rig the whole building?
• Did any of the emergency workers see remains of one of these, there would need to be a considerable number of them?
• Who designed and built them, where, how? Got any "material evidence"?
• How do you figure they got all that done - with "super-secret" phone calls?
• No paper/electronic trails for any money, materials, staff payments etc. for these machines. These things would need loads of specialist parts built.
• No staff wondering why they are building thousands of these huge thermite cutters? None coming forward after the event and going "hang on a minute"!
• Then we need to get god knows how many people to commit to invisibly planting them, knowing they are going to murder thousands of Americans!
• No way are you going to answer this, but how many people to rig both buildings? How many to plan it "so perfectly"?

Shadowy figure 2 and 3: Sorry boss. We're just not thinking straight. You're right it's totally insane to even consider. But what the hell, let's just do it.
Shadowy figure 1,2 and 3: High fives everyone.
Shadowy figure 2: Boss, boss, I've got it. Why don't we install some cannons in the building, then we can fire off all the engine bits into the streets.
Shadowy figure 1: Works for me, dead easy to install, let's do it. Where's my brandy?
Posted by way of showing how absurd the planning meeting would have gone, surely, SURELY any one can see the major issues here?

1. Fly plane at big building.
2. All the above and so much more, all coordinated in such a way that "internet sleuths" like Ace Baker are the only ones "smart enough" to notice.

Meanwhile, the idiot gorilla was sat on by a 100 ton elephant who said "yeah, magic explosion charges that bend the outside inwards"