It's Time for the Scientific Community to Admit We Were Wrong About COVID and It Cost Lives

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The world with the exception of Sweden acted incorrectly with regard to COVID. Attempting to equate COVID with the Spanish flu is absurd.
     
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    Go outside and play in the dirt. Get all kinds of germs and make one's immune system stronger.
    We don't need to breathe everyone elses germs to get stronger.
     
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    It's not absurd.
    2 of the largest pandemics in the last 100 yrs.
    But over 100 yrs, we got better at handling things.

    They were different types of virus, but transmitted similarly.

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    How was Spanish flu transmitted?
    The 1918 virus (Influenza A Subtype H1N1) and the new coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) are different viruses from different viral families, infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Maryland, tells Health.


    However, the mode of transmission is very similar. They are both spread primarily through respiratory droplets and aerosols (a suspension of liquid droplets in air), Charles Bailey, MD, medical director for infection prevention at Mission Hospital and St. Joseph Hospital in Orange County, California, tells Health. "This makes close, face-to-face contact crucial to their spread through a community," he says.
    How Are the Spanish Flu and COVID-19 Alike? Here's What Doctors Say (health.com)
     
  4. AFM

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    How do you explain Sweden?
     
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    That wasn't good, either.
    I guess this means you won't identify a policy and discuss it.
    It would have been better to target exports with a VAT tax.

    All ya got is one-liners (at best) to justify Trump's policies?
     
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    A country isolated and by itself.

    How do you explain the 1000s of other countries not named Sweden?

    How do you explain China?
    The lowest in the world in terms of population per 1M people.
     
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    If Covid was as lethal as the Spanish flu Sweden would have been decimated especially school children.

    The Chinese Communist Party leadership pathologically lies. Nothing they say can be believed.
     
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    I have no interest in continuing this discussion. If you understood economics the benefits of lowering the corporate income tax rate would be obvious.
     
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    Isn't that the very essence of good science? I find these types of conversations tedious. Do any of you really think the CDC and their peers worldwide are not learning from what happened and trying to improve upon their policies and guidelines in anticipation of the next pandemic?
     
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    So what economics are you touting in support of lower corporate taxes? Please tell us what outcomes you are hoping to gain by lowering those taxes. As for the tired old argument that justifies this by referring to some obscure term like "economics", try a better argument.
     
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    Sweden reversed course on its initial policies.
     
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    That's the point.
     
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    I taught economics. Better giddy-up...

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    ... because you're in over your head.
     
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    How low?
    If the statement there are "economic benefits of lowering the corporate income tax rate" is a blanket true statement then the best benefit would be to lower it to lowest point possible, zero. (technically you could go negative but that really isn't the point I'm trying to make)

    So are you of the opinion that a zero corporate income tax rate would be the best?
     
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    Econ 101
     
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    Yes - zero is the best. Corporations do not pay income taxes. The people that buy their products do. If you understand economics that will make perfect sense.
     
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    It's Time for the Scientific Community to Admit We Were Wrong About COVID and It Cost Lives

    It was government that was wrong. The medical community simply towed the line. Their fear of lawsuits required them to do that.
     
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    No they didn’t. They dud a better job of protecting those most at risk.
     
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    I believe that was the CDC, not Trump.
     
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    And yet you seem unable to understand the economic benefits of reducing the corporate income tax rate.
     
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    Its nice they let students (pupils) write opinion pieces in a magazine. Its a good skill to learn and might be useful when she/she reaches adulthood.


    It was Trump. Even DeSantis says it was Trump, even though in case of Florida, it was actually DeSantis himself who was simply following Trump's order / guidelines.
     
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    There are two benefits to lower business taxes. The first is that it makes U.S. businesses more competitive in the international market place. The second is that it lowers the incidence of price increases since taxes have to be figured into the pricing. The only beneficiary of higher business taxes is government and we should be finding ways to reduce government revenue and spending rather than increasing it.
     
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    The guidance came from the CDC. Where were you?
     
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    I was here watching Trump issue it on live TV.

    Government response updates: Trump issues stricter guidelines to stop virus spread
    As the president spoke, the Dow closed down almost 3,000 points.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/whi...-guidelines-markets-plummet/story?id=69620218
    President Donald Trump and his coronavirus task force on Monday issued new, stricter guidelines to stop the spread of the disease, including that states with evidence of community transmission should close bars, restaurants and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate.

    The new nationwide guidelines also call on Americans to avoid gatherings of more than 10 people; avoid eating and drinking in bars, restaurants, and public food courts; and encouraging schooling from home across the country.
     
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    Date of the article: March 2020.

    “If everyone makes this change or these critical changes and sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation and we will defeat the virus, and we are going to have a big celebration altogether. With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner and turn it quickly -- a lot of progress has been made“

    Several weeks. And of course President Trump is acting on the direction of the pandemic experts Fauci and Birx.

    Did you actually read the article??
     

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