Jeb Bush hardens position, says he opposes gay marriage

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    You know this how? Oh, you don't. Just making crap up.


    You tried. You used the word dictate in a post. And then tried to prove it with the presumption.
     
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    Surveys of homosexuals. As opposed to your personal need to believe it must be otherwise.


    Nooooo, it is BIOLOGY that dictates the limitation to men and women. Only women give birth and only men cause them to do so.
     
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    Nope, no surveys. Made it up.



    There are no limitations. Except to say that men can't have babies. Men can donate sperm. Woman can have the sperm placed into them. They can become pregnant without sex. So, nope, no dictate.
    Not every man or woman is capable, due to their biology, to conceive.
     
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    Total bull(*)(*)(*)(*). But I'll let the expert put you in your place.
    http://www.nomblog.com/8002/
    From "Gay 'Marriage,'" August 16, 2006:

    Liberals are the only intolerant ones here.

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    Like I said, the KKK is a prayer group compared to liberals.
     
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    Procreation is irrelevant.
     
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    Wow, the "expert" happens to be a blog run by a rabid anti-gay organization. Imagine that. Such tolerance!
     
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    Actually, both the quoted statute and traditional marriage are limited to couples of a man and a woman.


    Not sure of your point. It is ONLY men who can donate sperm. Nothing here to contradict my statement that only women become pregnant and only men cause them to do so.


    No one claimed otherwise. Grasping for refuge in a strawman as usual?
     
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    Wrong. . .If you had taken the time to read the link (Gallup) I provided, you would know that this particular poll was based on a sample size of over 1,000 from 50 US states. . .which comes to a LOT MORE than 20 per state!

    But, you seem to be interested ONLY in the sources that (wrongly) support your ignorance of statistical science.

    So. . .I don't think it will be productive to continue this discussion.

    Have a nice life!

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    Delusional?
     
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    Some how, I get the feeling this post is lies.

    Being I am socially liberal. I only hate hypocrites. This post sounds hypocritical.
     
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    Nope. Just accurate.

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    Your feeling is wrong. All liberals are haters. That's just the facts.
    If you hate hypocrites, you can only hate yourself and other social liberals. They are ALL hypocrites.
     
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    There is ONE instance. Yes some straights have committed murder. So have homosexuals.
    http://americansfortruth.com/issues/gay-on-gay-violence/

    And there have been normal people beat up, discriminated against, and harassed because they were normal.
    And homosexuals as a group are more violent than normal people, statistically.
    http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02
    Homosexual and Lesbian Couples vs. Married Couples

    When homosexual and lesbian relationships are directly compared with married couples, the difference in the domestic partner violence is pronounced:

    Sources: "Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence," U.S. Department of Justice: Office of Justice Programs: 30; "Intimate Partner Violence," Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report:11.

    Nope. My ilk is what makes this country work. My ilk pays the taxes and pays the bills.
    There's a difference between the two. I've already proven it.
    But your ilk of pushing sexual perversion in the face of regular families is shrinking. Fewer and fewer people support pedophiles like you do.

    Good riddance to left wing trash.
     
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    Usually when a gay person is beat up, discriminated against, harassed, it is simply presumed that it was because they were gay. And whenever a heterosexual is beat up, discriminated against, harassed, it is never presumed it is because they are heterosexual. The hate crime poster boy Sheppard for instance. Probably wasnt a hate crime because it had nothing to do with his sexual orientation
     
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    Exactly.

    This whole HATE CRIME bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is just that. BULL(*)(*)(*)(*). It's another way of saying POLITICALLY INCORRECT CRIME.

    And conservatives just sat back and let liberals get away with this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) without calling their dumb asses on it. And look what we got.
    A crime is a crime. Shepard was murdered. It wasn't a hate crime because THERE'S NO SUCH (*)(*)(*)(*)ING THING AS A HATE CRIME.

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    If I didn't have a life, I would worry about that.
     
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    For 3,000 years, religious people have stoned gay people to death, imprisoned them, chemically castrated them, had them fired from their jobs and disrespected their military service.

    Now, one gay guy demands a cake and Christians have a hissy fit.

    It' just too pathetic for words.
     
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    "Marriage equality" would involve extending marriage to any two consenting adults who are currently excluded by law from marriage. Your advocacy of extending marriage to only gay couples who are excluded from marriage, is Inequality by design for the benefit of gays. Let go of your bigotry.
     
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    He doesn't have my vote.
     
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    And your sad, little, "If I can only tie gay marriage to incest, then we can stop gay marriage," argument is just pathetic.
     
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    Christians don't make sense. They are so gung ho about gay marriage but they are okay with this extreme diversity enthusiast Jeb Bush bringing a bunch of Arabs, Blacks and muslims to the United States. Christians just live in fantasies and one day their children will have to deal with the hell they created when they were high in la la land. I hate communism, but Karl Marx was right when he said Religion is the opiate of the masses.
     
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    ???? Im certainly not suggesting anyone engage in incest. I suspect it is the argument that you IMAGINED I made that is pathetic.
     
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    I do believe that some people are born gay. But I can also believe that some people choose to be gay. It doesn't make a difference to me, free speech and all if that is how one wants to express themselves.

    There are places on this Earth, like Pattaya, Thailand, which seem to point to being gay or transgender as a choice. Something about the environment in those places leads to more gays and transgenders. I understand that Pattaya is sort of a gay Mecca, so migration would account for some of the disproportion. But that doesn't explain why so many working girls I met had brothers or sons who were gay or transgender. I would even go so far as saying that a majority of working girls' brothers and sons in the city of Pattaya are gay or transgender.
     
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    Some people choose to be gay? It would appear that you, and anyone who says that is confused and poorly informed about certain things concerning human sexuality.

    Those who say that homosexuals can become heterosexual or vis versa are confusion sexual orientation with “lifestyle” Many people are not clearly homosexual or heterosexual but, rather are to some degree bisexual. Bisexuals may, at various points in their life depending on a variety of factors, focus more on one gender or the other. Hence, the mistaken perception that their sexual orientation itself has changed.
    There is a growing body of research that points to evidence that sexual orientation is the result of a complex interaction of biological factors, including genetic indicators, and the social environment. No, there has not been a “gay gene” identified, but that does not mean that sexuality is fluid, nor does it mean that it is a choice.
     
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    You mean they CHOOSE to identify as either homosexual or heterosexual.
     
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    Don't try to twist my words and make it sound as though I'm saying that homosexuality is a choice. I am distinguishing between sexual orientation and lifestyle and I think that you're smart enough to understand that. It does not matter what they "identify " as The ARE bisexual and that is a sexual orientation and not a choice. Got that?
     

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