Jesus Christ is no myth

There is plenty of peer review.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar

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Josephus the Roman historian wrote an account of Jesus.

 

Jesus don't need to write any book his actions are strongest and is enough to change the entire known Roman empire and his Apostles are around to write about him.

 

that is what Muslims said too, if God wanted a book he would just say let it be and it would be

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

" (Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)"

" “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” (Quran, 3:49)"

then of course we have the Mormons that have another story about Jesus too

maybe if Jesus wrote his own book things would be clearer, but Jesus would of had to know how to actually write for that to happen

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You can call him what you like or change his name a hundred times, there's no proof Christ is the son of God.

 

none of which proves he was the "Son of god"

 

The science proving the existence of JC does not prove he was the "son of god", nor would any evidence that he was crucified (a common execution method at that time) prove he was the "son of god".

The problem with religion is that it is faith based, faith by definition requires no evidence to support it, so in reality it makes no difference if there is no evidence that JC was the "son of god" as long as your faith accepts it to be true. Religious people need to get over themselves and stop trying to use science to prove something simply so they can enforce their ideology onto others.

 

There is no God. And if there was why would anyone worship his kid?

 

That is not peer review, even the link you provided states that the research has not been peer reviewed.

Extract - "But many historians are skeptical. They say the names on the bone boxes (inside the Talpiot tomb) don't all match with those of Jesus' family. In addition, the current research has not been published in a peer-reviewed journal, the experts say."

 

Sure, my point wasn't about Islam or Buddhism in particular, it was about the lacking justification for belief given by jrr777.

 

But God did not want Mohammed to write a new book he wanted Mohammed to consult and work with the Jews and Christians to introduce the Bible to the dessert tribes in Arabia in Mecca and Medina. Mohammed instead disobeyed God and attacked the Jews and Christians and introduced a new book called Quran.
The Quran are words of Mohammed not God’s. Jesus already have his own book it is called the Holy Bible. They crucified Jesus for telling the truth and Muslims, Mormons and other heretics as well as some atheist plagiarized and distort the Bible to destroy God’s message and history.

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Jesus has only one name Jesus of Nazareth son of Joseph, Son of God the Christ. If Jesus is not the Son of God there would be no reason for the Pharisees to have him crucified charged with blasphemy

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Science is not in the field to proof if he is or not the Son of God, science only interest is to proof he existed and science did succeed in that.

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With Christianity it was not just base on faith that was why God came down from the Heaven's to be Jesus to provide us the human evidence that we as humans needed actual facts.

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If there was or is no God there will be no need for humans.

 

Modern humans have been in existence for a very short time. Therefore God didn't exist before then because the universe has existed for billions of years. And even if such a thing as God exists there's still no reason to worship it.

 

When it comes to Ol' JC, the question really isn't whether the man existed, it's really whether he was a God or not.

Billions of people have existed, that's nothing special. But there hasn't been one single case of a God existing. Or people with the powers of a God. That's the extraordinary claim that will require extraordinary evidence. I think it's rather silly to take it even on faith that Jesus was anything but a homo sapien just because some old texts say so. Sure, if there was actual evidence of God today it would be a different story and much easier to believe. If there was evidence of anything divine. But there isn't. There's just abject silence on the subject. If God does exist, mum's the word as far as he's concerned. So why should we people make the assumption just in this case? Why Jesus? Why is this specific guy the one that isn't relegated to the myths and fables pile? He's certainly not the first figure from antiquity who has been said to have abilities beyond that of a normal human being. That's nothing new.

So honestly, who cares if Jesus Christ the man existed or not. If he's a real guy, then he's a real guy. Like I said, there have been billions of real guys. Billions and billions. Women too. The pattern shows that human beings are always just human beings. So if folks want to claim that there is a human who is not like the others in the way that Jesus is said to have been, I would think you'd need to show your work and explain why this dude bucks the unbroken trend of just plain old regular human beings. Not from the biblical standpoint, but from the objective real life standpoint. We know what the books say. We want to know why you, and then we, should believe them.

 

Too bad Jesus isn't wiggling on the cross, after all, it's just two days in God time. Now that would be impressive.

 

My point is the people who voted, were peers. And they of course did not all agree on each point that I recall.

 

Jesus is God's son. What you need to ponder is the suffering on the cross. That is not as important as the story is. The story tells of Jesus pleading with God to end his suffering and to not forsake him.

On Earth, Jesus did have some powers that appear as if he is GOD, Lazerus for instance, walking on water, feeding many with next to nothing. He certainly persuaded the disciples.

 

how do you know Muslims or Mormons did not get it right and Christians got it wrong?

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that was never his name, in fact if you went back in time, he would not answer to that name as he would never of heard it before

if Jesus was really a God, he could not really be be crucified

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God has always existed, the awareness of God's existence started with the coming of modern humans.
Without modern humans no one will be aware or know that God exist.

 

Because we know it didn’t happened that way.

 

How do you know that Muslims and Mormons got it right? If Muslims got it right why are they so protective, so regressive, so hostile against none believers?

I know Muslims and Mormons got it wrong because facts does not agree with them and this goes back to no matter how much factual evidence is available there will always still be people who will not believe. Just like there are still many people who do not believe the effectiveness of vaccination against illnesses.

Without the crucifixion we would not know that he is the and only God.

 

So God can't convince goats or eathworms that he exists?

 

That's what the fairy tale says. He could still be wiggling on the cross if he wanted, it's just two days God time.

 

Which scholar and when?

 

You do see the double talk here, don't you?

And just like you, I will retreat behind the blanket of faith. Now disprove the myth of Achilles. It has just as much base as the Myth of Jesus. Some ancient writing.

 

And were we modern humans to get a taste of the miracles that flowed freely back in the day, there'd be a hell of a lot more religious folks out there. It would have been easy to become a disciple. Don't get that confused with my saying that it would have been easy to BE one, but to become one would have been a no brainer. They got to witness Jesus's powers firsthand. There was no doubt there. Maybe they had some troubles with believing everything he told them about heaven and the things out of their sight, but it would have been quite simple to believe Jesus was more than just a regular person when you witness real miracles. They had it easy.

Don't you find it odd that God did things in reverse? Instead of showing himself to those who need it, that being us in our modern age, he showed himself to folks for whom even a Bic lighter would have been mind blowing. Our current situation with our modern knowledge and technology would have been very predictable for an omnipotent being, it's not like our plight would have been unforeseen. And yet, where is God? Where are our miracles? Why don't we get proof? What made the bronze age folks worthy but not us?

 

God can and could have chosen the goats, earthworms or maybe the chimps and gorillas but God chose humans and this is the greatest mystery of all if God has not chosen humans we won’t know the existence and reality of God. The awareness of God’s existence started with the coming of modern humans even though the earthworms, chimps or gorillas have been around thousands of years much earlier than modern humans.