Jesus Christ is no myth

That is true the fairy tales and myths such as what you have presented is the very reason why it all lacks credibility or believability. Science and the Bible goes hand in hand with science confirming the reality of Jesus Christ, the Apostles, Jesus family and the events that took place during Jesus time

 

Scholars such as Steve Weldenkoff, Stephen Gabriel, Fr. Michael Cerrone, Hank Hanegraaff, Robert Spencer etc. , some of the scientist and archeologist are Eleazar Lipa Sukenik, Emanuel Tov, José O'Callaghan Martínez, etc.

 

They have no credibility within scientific community.

 

None of the evidence of JC existence holds up to scientific scrutiny.

Your comment is faith based, there is no scientific evidence that "God came down from the Heaven's to be Jesus ", none what so ever.

 

Then you don't understand the peer review process

The peer review process subjects scientific research papers to independent scrutiny by other qualified scientific experts (peers) before they are made public.

 

Why would Jesus need to pray to god .. is he not god himself (trinity) and there is much dispute concerning what his words actually were, with some saying that he did not plead with god but simply said "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit", not even the Gospels can agree on what his words actually were.

There is no evidence other than the bible that confirms any of the above happened, and of course the bible is a self-serving book so cannot be seen as actual evidence.

 

good, so we agree, and the same would be true of Christians, why an inquisition of they had it right.....

if the Bible, Quran, ect.... were the truth, when someone read it, they would just go... duh, why didn't I see that before, there would be no need to defend the bible, quran, whatever, it would just make sense, why doesn't the bible, quran, whatever do this, because obviously man wrote the bible, quran, ect..... not a God

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We know how Jesus resurreced. It is called grave robbing.

 

May I suggest that in the middle of the night the family of Jesus took his body and interred it in a family grave near Nazareth.

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There were no Roman soldiers guarding the tomb. It would not be in their brief to do so. As far as they were concerned Jesus was indisputable dead and no longer a problem. Anyway, no Roman soldier would forfeit his life by taking a bribe. If anyone guarded the tomb it would be Temple guards - and they would have little to fear from taking a bribe if offered.

The story of his nativity, life and trial of Jesus the Rabbi is fraught with errors and supposed miracles. I said before, take away christian influence written decades after, and you have the teachings of a Jewish preacher condemning the Religious heirarchy for their distortion of the Tanakh teaching. For that he died on a cross. Killed by those he opposed and a violent and cruel man who really didn't care what happened, as long as it kept the peace.

 

I know agnostics and athiest that are not evil. I know Christians that are. So, your statement has no real value. I've learned that the bible is Jewish hogwash, why should I trust its claims?

 

You know agnostics and atheists that aren't evil, but you know Christians that are? That's funny and very easy to say, and easy to see it's a lie. Everybody is evil and has evil in them. It's being able t acknowledge it, ask forgiveness and for the evil to be taken away. We all fall short of the Glory of God. Everybody sins, which is evil. Quit lying.

 

I'm sure that makes sense in your cultist mindset. Truth is, humans are human, not evil. We do good and bad things. How easily you excuse your God of our imperfect nature, considering you believe he created us.

I'm curious, just how long did your God expect man to exist before sinning? And, why would he allow a turd(satan) in Eden? Nothing in your religion makes sense.

 

KJB Revelation 12:7
7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

So, gods lack of control over satan is mine and humanities problem? Because of satan(gods creation), billions of humans deserve eternal fiery torment? Not buying it.

 

You don't have to.

 

So....Pretty much EVERYTHING that point to the whole "Son of God" thingy....when Niccea documented decisions are added to this....the case is closed for all thinking people.
"One purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements arising from within the Church of Alexandria over the nature of the Son in his relationship to the Father: in particular, whether the Son had been 'begotten' by the Father from his own being, and therefore having no beginning, or else created out of nothing, and therefore having a beginning. St. Alexander of Alexandria and Athanasius took the first position; the popular presbyter Arius, from whom the term Arianism comes, took the second. The council decided against the Arians overwhelmingly (of the estimated 250–318 attendees, all but two agreed to sign the creed and these two, along with Arius, were banished to Illyria)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

 

Hey, God s a kind and loving God who just happens to have a bit of a sadistic streak. What do you expect since God was created in man's image.

 

Look, as much as I want to help you, I cannot. Your disbelief is to far gone. You sit there blaming humanities actions and problems on God. If someone decides to pick up a gun and shoot someone, you leave the shooter guiltless, and blame God. There is no place for such nonsense.

 

It is easy for lions to remain lions, eagles as eagles, ants as ants all creatures except humans following a natural order, there must be something as to why humans are so different? From the dawn of time the first modern human on earth God has been their inspiration the awareness of God was realized. There are many scientific mysteries such as the mystery of the Black Hole, or the God Particle “Higgs Boson”, origin of the universe, parallel universe, or existence of human like form in some far away galaxy. But here on earth all living things except humans have no awareness of God nor do they find it necessary to worship or worry about God or Satan they go by their lives naturally.

God has chosen humans to be aware of Him, would it have been different if God had chosen any other creatures to be aware of him? IMO not really probably even if God had chosen some other creatures to be gifted with God given intelligence they too will experience and go through what we humans are going through.

Modern human has come a long way, we know through science that this earth have creatures that existed millions of years long before the arrival of modern humans and the earth has evolved to what it is today and continue to do so to the point that one day we will be able to travel in space and visit other planets.

This human dominance and expansion goes back to the early words of God to early human, Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

 

Their credScholars such as Steve Weldenkoff, Stephen Gabriel, Fr. Michael Cerrone, Hank Hanegraaff, Robert Spencer etc. , some of the scientist and archeologist are Eleazar Lipa Sukenik, Emanuel Tov, José O'Callaghan Martínez, etc.

Their credibility and credentials are well recognized and well rooted in the scholarly filed compare to the many self-accredited self-proclaim scholars that all they do is distort history and facts.

 

Science is very strong in faith it is through faith that discoveries are made. And the faith of the existence of God start with discovering the historicity and reality of the existence Jesus of Nazareth the man that is Jesus Christ.
To quote Einstein; I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details.

 

The case of the Ossuary and the Dead Sea scrolls has been studied and reviewed by several scientists confirm for its authenticity that is not a forgery. It is comparable to discovering ancient remains of dinosaurs confirming the existence of once upon a time of those great giant creatures.

 

yes, that is all science can do... is prove who the Myths are based on originally, the guy we now know as Jesus went by the name Yeshua Ben Yosef in real life..... thus the myth was born

 

Evidences is only in the Bible because the Jewish elites do not want any evidence about Christ to be available, they tried every extreme measures to silence, blocked and stop any information or message of Jesus Christ to reach the Jews that was why it would be the none Jews that would eventually embraced Jesus because the Jewish elites could only censure Jews from Jesus Christ but they are not able to stop the Romans, Greeks and all other none Jews from embracing Jesus Christ and thanks to the Apostles for writing whatever they could remember about Christ that kept Jesus Christ message alive.

Jesus praying to God is because in human form he possess all human characteristic and that include awareness of God. And is making us all aware that he indeed is the Son of God, a son praying to his Father and this goes back to the Trinity mystery. One day once we discover and learn the true nature and reality of the Black Hole we will also learn the true nature and reality of God and the Trinity for now the knowledge we have are limited to what is available.

 

Quran is the words of Mohammed not God that was and still is being defended violently and aggressively by Muslims; too many Muslims just cannot accept the truth they are in a state of denial. Factual evidences are out there Muslim just refused to see it or they are being censored to see it. Christians have no problem with the truth. It is not the Bible or God that is blinding or preventing the people from knowing the truth it is people that are refusing to accept the truth. And this goes back to Eisenhower quote:
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

Up to now it is a fact that there are still many people who deny the Holocaust or do not believe in the effectiveness of medical vaccination.