Killing Babies no Different from Abortion, Experts Say

And you will deny the fact that banning abortion has never ended abortion but has hurt women and that is your main goal, punish women for having all the fun sex YOU DON'T HAVE

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And YOU swore you KNEW what abortion statistics were when abortions were banned.....

 

You know how much sex I have? You don't know me.

Banning abortions would reduce the number of abortions. I don't want women to be hurt, that is stupid. I have sisters, a mother, daughters.

I do, I even posted a graph of it.

 

So then you KNOW that banning abortion didn't work....you are finally catching up to the entire rest of the world that already knows it.!!!!!!

Women ARE hurt when abortions are banned and they don't have accesS to clean safe abortion, UNLESS THEY ARE WEALTHY WOMEN AND THEN THEY JUST GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY TO ESCAPE THE STUPIDITY OF ABORTION BANNERS WHO HATE WOMEN AND WANT TO SEE THEM SUFFER......



And you can have a very deep seated hatred of women whether you have a mother or sisters or daughters....having relatives doesn't mean you don't hate and want to control them.



Why do you think you know how many illegal abortions were performed but Cady and a huge organization like the World Health Organization doesn't....how do YOU know more than the World Health Organization ? To even think so is psychotic...

 

Your ignorance is not my problem. Were you home-schooled by any chance?

Your refusal to understand what a child is, is not "quibbling". It's the core of your problem. Fix it.

So your "enlightened" approach to "humanizing" people is to deprive them of civil rights because your inhuman god said so?

Why do YOU consider depriving people of liberty is liberty? Did you education acquaint you with Orwell? Orwell understood that the key to tricking people is to mislabel things. Knowledge is ignorance, war is peace. Someone told you that a fetus is a person, and you never recovered your wits - if you ever had any. So now you believe that liberty means being FORCED against your will to suffer under someone else's opinion. Except of course unless it's YOU who must suffer - THEN suddenly it's not liberty anymore. It's only liberty when YOU get to force your opinion on ME.

You need to move to China. There, abortion is mandatory, and if you don't agree, you are severely punished. Maybe THEN you'd understand what you are trying to do to others. And who knows, maybe then you'd understand what rights are, where the come from, and how they are lost to fanatics armed with Absolute Morality.

 

This is what I call "religious thinking." To make something come true, all you have to do is BELIEVE it's true. When the facts refute you, simply deny them. Make up your own. Your own personal facts MUST be true, otherwise you might be wrong, and that's simply not thinkable.

 

Says who? That's the opposite of what I said. Do you people even know what a strawman argument is?

That is just propaganda put out by the abortion advocacy groups.

Half of aborted fetuses are female. Where do you come off accusing me of that? That is an outrageous personal attack.

I didn't say I knew how many illegal abortions were performed.

I know the WHO is promotes abortion. Is it psychotic to state facts?

 

Your personal insults and contradiction in place of reasoned arguments is boring me.

Do some reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

 

My thoughts exactly. You never learned to think, and you aren't about to start. Try going to school. Better yet, try NOT going to church. Open your eyes. Maybe someday something will penetrate.

You have proved unable to answer anything I've said. I expected no better, but I always start out hopeful. You have eliminated any benefit of the doubt. Go pray at something, it will make you feel more self-righteous in your ignorance. Best anyone can offer you.

 

DITTO............. I couldn't have said it better.....I have never seen anyone not want the facts, deny the facts...and wallow in ignorance and hate more then said poster !!!


Plus the total disrespect for those who went through the Holocaust was really disgusting...and they claim they have respect for life....and then continually prove the opposite....

 

That's what I'm on about. All you have left is personal insults.

I don't go to church. I don't pray.

This is not about religion. You are letting your own fear and hatred of religion show.

 

I'm always taken aback when I encounter truly evil people. They are always so incredibly self-righteous. And invariably, they wish to deny others what they themselves demand.

What's ironic is that he can excrete his bile because of the very tolerance he'd deny others. Personally, I blame his parents. Schools may not all educate very well, but it's in the home where such ignorance is demanded (and trained in from infancy).

 

Such as? You are just making stuff up now.

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What is more evil than killing innocent fetuses?

 

Fetuses aren't people? After the events transpiring during the Second World War, I thought the world had made a firm resolution, "Never Again".
But there was an "Again". It's STILL happening, over and over, and society doesn't care enough to stop it. I think that dishonors their memories more than anything.

 

Mandatory sterilizations for repeat offenders. Has that not been proven?

 

Life in prison for first offense will stop repeat offenders too.

 

That is a link to "Clinical practice handbook for safe abortion." Is there something wrong with making abortion safer for women? There are no "abortion advocacy groups." You are lying again.

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They make scientific estimates:

An earlier study found the same results:

 

Trolling again?

 

You should be ashamed of your self for comparing the horrors that victims of the holocaust went through with the FACT that a fetus when aborted is a clump of cells that FEELS NO PAIN....


You would NEVER have the courage to say that to the face of a survivor of the Holocaust.....for you to use the LIES in connection with the holocaust to further your warped , controlling agenda to ALSO take away people's rights is so disgusting, beyond sick....

 

This coming from a self-admitted anti-fetite.

 

So in reality you don't have anything of any relevance to say .. just as I knew you didn't. you actually sound like a petulant school kid who doesn't have anything of value to say so just sulks in the corner saying "that's stupid"

wow, such profound logic

Everything I have written is in my own words apart from the pieces I have quoted which are contained within quotation marks . .you know those things called quotation marks that people who understand English use when quoting another persons words .. actually scrap that as it is obvious you don't know what they are.

Let me know when the forum has a rule that states that the quote function must be used when quoting others, until then go to hell and learn English punctuation.

It doesn't require it at the moment because abortion is a legal process, when or more likely if the unborn are deemed persons consent and self-defence becomes a very valid defence to keep abortion legal. I know from your previous comments that it is very difficult for you to grasp that, perhaps you should educate yourself before entering a debate you have obviously such little knowledge of.

So my belief is a personal attack, again your lack of English understanding shines through.

Then don't enter into a debate where you are closed minded and really have no relevance or relevant input. I offered a logical argument as to a defence of abortion should the unborn ever be legally deemed as persons and you simply have no logically response to it .. hence the childish "stupid" you continue to use. If you have no logically argument to refute mine then you are wasting my time.

no you are ignorant of biology and attempting to evade.

Then you don't disagree with my premise contrary to your previous comment .. make you mind up.

Are you blind, I supplied you with the data that showed maternal deaths due to abortion fell after Roe vs Wade .. FFS if you are going to ignore factual data and rely on your ignorance then there really is no point in continuing this waste of my time.

I stand by my comment earlier, you certainly are a troll.

 

By his logic a person suffering from Turner syndrome is not a human being

 

so by your logic a person who suffers from Turner syndrome is not a human being?

What about a downs syndrome person, they don't have the correct number of chromosomes either, are they not human beings?

 

Great, now all you have to do is prove that there is a God, any God will do.

Rubbish, human life only has as much value as another places upon it, that is true for all human beings including you.

 

Wrong .. sexual intercourse merely creates the risk of pregnancy and no person is expected to suffer injury because they took a risk .. by your logic the woman who chooses to go jogging at night and is raped, got there by her own actions and must live with that decision.

It really amazes me how ignorant some people are about their own laws.

sorry to inform you that consent to the risk of something does not mean consent to the actual event.

human life only has as much value as another places upon it, that is true for all humans including you.

Popular word convenience for pro-lifers, except that they think what they define as convenience should apply to everyone.. thankfully it doesn't.

 

The ignorance is strong in you or perhaps it is brainwashing.