Libs, get a clue.It isn't Whites or racism holding Blacks down.

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  1. CaptainAngryPants

    CaptainAngryPants New Member

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    Yes I think may be right, Rush Limbaugh is probably a little too sophisticated for you. Sean Hannity is more your speed.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    It's 2014. And I've decided this is a year where I'll tolerate racists less. They are 'fools'.

    I think anyone with the internet... does not need explained to them, that which you so eloquently explained above; yet, I also know it is important to sometimes answer the foolishness of racism here... because many people do arrive here via Google and other meta-searches.

    Still, I've gotten older and have begun to see racists more are like men who do certain other things:

    They are violent to their wives/families.

    They won't take care of their children, and keep having them.

    They drink too much without working to get a handle on it.

    They are addicted to drugs.

    They lie and cheat on their spouses.

    They discourage the downtrodden.

    They are faithless, crude, rude and deliberately hurtful to others.


    So, while MANY might look at Mr. Phil Robertson on Duck Dynasty and revere him... I have a VERY difficult time NOT seeing him as one of the types I just listed above. For a man that would often utter racist and inhumane commentary, is also a man foolish enough to FALL in many other ways... especially since the evil that racism is, seems to know few limits. After all, look at the actual trouble it has caused in this nation alone, not to mention the world. Robertson is no damned hero and neither are those who would exalt his notoriety.

    Yes. I'm now certain that 'racists' are DESTRUCTIVE, HEARTLESS FOOLS (though clever they may be). They can be successful folk, but they are an insidious, walking poison in the midst of decent people. They only APPEAR to do good, but few can see them taking two steps backward just as they take one forward.

    Do you see crime, hatred and fear in your neighborhood/society today? Well, you can almost be certain that a RACIST HAS LIKELY CONTRIBUTED TO THE SAME. The evil they utter RIPPLES through humanity and causes effects they are typically too foolish to consider or calculate. They are the type of person who would imagine that aerial crop-dusting for RATS (in a residential area), or defecating in the same rooms they work, eat and sleep would be good practices.

    Racists are fools. (And they do not have any real idea that they are.)
     
  3. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I keep listening to that bull crap. Not having an ID effects them more than having one. In the long run it costs them more. One only has to look at what you can't do without an ID to realize that. That is a Liberal lie.
     
  4. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    And 'I' am tired of the racist NONSENSE!!

    Either we make sure people have an official local ID or initiate a NATIONAL ID.

    This notion of enacting laws which LITERALLY disenfranchise voters, then talking around the real 'effects' of such laws, is dangerous. If/when people see that Democracy isn't working (at all), the negative consequences will be devastating.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I decided against breaking rule 9, but rest assured the first draft of this post most certainly did.

    I feel the same way toward your post history.
     
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    CaptainAngryPants New Member

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    I guess it's lucky for me that you remembered rule nine, otherwise I might have been subjected to the full wrath of your prodigious intellect.
     
  7. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's fine with me. Lets contact our representatives and ask them to authorize a national ID.

    http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
     
  8. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy we agree on that. I certainly WILL contact them about the same. (I may even take out my pen/paper and stamps to drive the point home even further.)

    Thanks.
     
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    And it affects those that can't afford or get to a place that issues voter ID laws! TRY AGAIN!

    This is a prime example of the GOP saying, "We cant understand why poor people don't like us".............all the while they do things that makes it harder for the poor person to vote!

    Its like me punching you in the face and then wondering why you dont like me. Kind of funny, huh?

    So back to the question that you failed to address(don't worry I know why you avoided it)..............why you enact legislation that affects the poor and minorities and then wonder why they don't like you? Why do you choose not to think? Why do you choose to provide us with evidence that allows us to question your intelligence and then get mad when we believe the evidence you provide?

    Amazing, huh? LOL

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    Nope. Our beloved constitution that you laminated and carry around in your breast pocket needs to be dusted off and referenced more often in your posts. I wonder why you had it laminated and so close to your heart if you are never going to use it?????

    People have the right to vote. Period. Our constitution doesn't say they have the right to vote with an ID! Sorry!
     
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    Can those voter IDs be faked? If so, then enacting voter ID laws will not stop voter fraud................much like having an ID to purchase beer will not stop young people from drinking. People get fake IDs to drink and they will get fake IDs to vote. So, Im not quite sure that requiring voters to have ID will stop much fraud since most of the fraud happens, not by the voters, but by those administering/counting the votes.

    Will those voter IDs cost money? If so, then homeless people or those that are just scraping by may not be able to get a voter ID. It disenfranchises them.

    Will those voter IDs be delivered to voters without them having to drive hours or to the nearest big city?

    I wonder why NO conservative is willing to address the facts of voter IDs???
     
  11. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shouldn't people at least be able to prove they are an American citizen when registering to vote and when voting? Is that asking to much? Do you know much of our illegal voting is by absentee voting? Or voting by dead people. We ask for ID in most everything we do in life, why is voting any different? Why should an illegal be able to register to vote when he is not a citizen? There is no good excuse for not having an ID. We make it harder on people by not having one.
     
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    The constitution says I can have a gun, but in order to do so I must show an ID. Both the ID and gun cost money, am I disenfranchised?

    felons and aliens can't vote, there is no such thing as an absolute right
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can driver's license, Passports and money be faked?
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do people out in the country pay their bills? If they have no ID they can't pay them by check. Do they go around to the electric and gas company and pay them? What big hardship is it for a person to go down and get an ID? Why are we always trying to make excuses? Hell if they live out in the country, chances are they already have a driver's license.

    Most people even the very poor (*)(*)(*)(*) away five or ten dollars. If you want to get one you will.
     
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    Yes, its asking too much because the methods that you promote................can be faked and will cost voters something that our beloved, laminated, pocket living constitution doesn't say they need. It disenfranchises those voters.

    Who knows why we have to keep telling this and why in the world you CANT address our claims is amazing?
     
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    Sorry my questions were too difficult for you.

    Let's try them one at a time. Maybe that's easier for you.

    Can those voter IDs laws be faked? If so, then you do realize that just like drinking..............if people want to commit voter fraud and ID isn't going to stop them. Its only hurting law abiding citizens! (Remember that claim when talking about gun registration???? LOL)
     
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    If enacting legislation that requires people to show an ID to vote....................and some of those have difficulty in getting that ID(and some may not be able to get it at all), this doesn't disenfranchise them?

    In other words, liberals are not against voter ID laws in general. Most, in fact, support regulations on our rights just like gun laws. You must be 18 to vote, you can't vote twice, you must live in the district in which you vote, you can't yell fire in a crowded place when there is no fire, you can slander or libel someone, etc. etc.

    So its not the regulation, per se, its the fact that some people will not be able to get an ID and this disenfrachises those people.

    If the GOP would address our concerns and ensure that EVERYONE would get an ID..............then we are all for it. But instead of trying to ensure us liberals that everyone can get one and explain to us how that is going to happen, all we are left with is "Nuahhhhh".

    But the fact remains that not one GOP person is willing to admit that some people wouldnt be able to get an ID and they are also not willing to ensure that everyone gets one. It appears that your only concern is with keeping those very same people from voting democrat. You can't win elections on the merit of your policy proposals, so you must do everything you can to keep those people from voting for the other party.
     
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    You have deciphered the code. Since Republicans won't admit what they are up to, it is time to oppose them at every possible turn. Get this stuff into court; alert people in churches; get everyone registered that we possibly can and devise ways of getting people to the polls. There is more that can be done... but the KEY is making sure that anyone who can understand how the GOP plans to steal the vote, becomes a relentless ACTIVIST.

    Don't let-up off of the GOP in ANY way. If they would play 'fair', I would not say these things so strongly. However, the GOP is clearly out to steal the vote from the people.

    DON'T LET IT HAPPEN!!!
     
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    Sorry if you got my other post. I responded without reading all of it or misinterpreting what you said. After reading it again, I realize that I responded with the wrong intent. My apologizes.
     
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    No problem. Sometimes it's easy to get goofed-up on this site. :)
     
  21. After Hours

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    Most "hispanics" (at least the ones where I live) tend to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Maybe if conservatives stopped bashing them all the time like they do blacks, they would get more of their votes.

    Btw, I said Reagan was a race baiter. He said he supported states rights to an all white conservative southern audience knowing it would appeal to them, and thus earn him more votes. It worked, obviously.
     
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    Blacks don't owe you squat, and I say this as a white man myself.

    How sad that so many conservatives have an entitlement mentality. They think people owe them, heh.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is bashing Hispanics? Most of the conversations concerning Hispanics has to do with illegals.
     
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    I could show you bunches of examples on this forum alone from posters who identify as conservative bashing "hispanics" (granted, they do bash blacks more). I suspect if I did this, however, I'd get an infraction.
     
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    Absolute rubbish, an excuse means to excuse someone from a requirement, or indeed a standard for a reason. Slavery is the excuse, you dont think its much of a excuse, Ive explained why it is, now the balls in your court.

    Go ahead, look at the history, Isreal wasnt an innocent party, it was actually on Egyptian territory and intended to keep it. Thats the historical fact you cant deny.


    Wow, you really dont know a thing do you? The Japanese were not ever slaves and in fact theyd never been, instead theyd been doing the enslaving across the region. They had political control of their own islands, because they were islands, and built an industrial base, but they used it to conquer other people when they began to run out of resources.

    You like excuses do you? Whats your excuse for that?

    Utter rubbish, compared to the Japanese the blacks did not have the education, they did not have the land resources, the generations of learned technical skills, the doctors, the engineers, the scientists, the universities, the factories, the vote, the control of their own industries, sea borders etc. That was al in the hands of another community. Youre talking out your rear end again.

    More BS. Go ahead and tell me the history of your ancestors, and try and make comparison with the American blacks.


    No ones interested in what you give a crap about, no one knows if you pay any bills or your mom does anyway. The point is blacks have done as much for America and have sacrificed as much too. As for wars, they were held back from war fighting and yet still wanted to fight for their country. Its a perfect example, in the UK with the US army they were made to peel potatoes while the white army kept them apart and made sure as much as possible they take part in the action.


    Its sixth in the USA according to wiki. Every city has problems Frank, you try reading.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta

     
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