List the physical evidence sexual abuse and battery of E Jean Carroll by Trump

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I merely note the reality that there is no evidence that anyone in juries of the sexual abuser's peers may have acted wrongfully in adjudicating charges against him.

    If any were pre-committed to a verdict one way or the other, or subject to intimidation or bribery, all the sexual abuser's apologists need do is share their evidence and their sources.

    Trump's worshipers not liking verdicts in no way invalidates them.
     
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    the evidence is contemporaneous confirmation.

    If her friends were lying for her, that she didn't actually tell them at the time she was assaulted, a good lawyer could trip them up on cross, and that didn't happen.

    so, the jury found Carrol sincere and Trump lying, based on this evidence.
     
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    If they sue, maybe, maybe more.
     
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    In this trial, the jury didn't agree the assault wasn't rape, it was sexual assault, because he penetrated her with his fingers and not his penis. To a woman, there is no difference, but in law, apparently there is, in NY.
     
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    Still deflecting. You asked a question, it was answered.
     
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    Undoubtedly, juries of the sexual abuser's peers assessed all admissible evidence presented by both the prosecution and the defense in reaching their verdicts.

    Whether folks who were not on the juries like or dislike the verdicts has no bearing on their legitimacy.
     
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    So, you think I'm good to go with my lawsuit?
     
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    If you can't handle the verdicts reached by juries of the sexual abuser's peers, what do you expect me to do about it?
     
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    I have no idea. Why should I?
     
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    He told us, because 'when you are a star, you can do anything you want, even grab them by the p*ssy'. When asked in a deposition if he believed that, he said, 'well, for a million years this has been true, unfortunately or FORTUNATELY'.

    Trump did it because he actually believed he had the right to, because he was a 'star'. I will grant you the man is criminally sick, but the jury believed her, especially she had friends who testified that when this happened to her, she told them at the time, this is called 'contemporaneous evidence'.
    You'd love to believe that because it fits nicely into the 'Trump is victim' narrative that he wants you to believe. The truth is that Trump is a victimizer, not a victim.

    The reason the Jury believed her and not him is spelled out here:

    https://law.temple.edu/aer/2023/05/15/evidence-advocacy-and-carroll-v-trump

    How the trial went down is hardly anything like you are characterizing it, that is, if you are at all interested in the truth.

    At some juncture, you will just have swallow the bitter pill of truth, that your guy is a criminal pervert fraudster con man and evil to the core and needs to be incarcerated because he is a menace to society and a threat to US national security.
     
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    What the hell?
     
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    Why didn't you start with that instead of wasting my time acting like you had a clue?
     
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    For Trump's lickspittles who are upset by verdicts issued by juries of his peers who assessed all permissible evidence, all they need to do is present credible evidence of corruption - payoffs, jury-tampering, etc.

    Not liking verdicts does nothing to invalidate them.
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    "I DON'T LIKE THE VERDICT!"
     
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    I guess I'm not old enough to remember that happening. Do you ever remember that happening?

    Guess it's a Jersey thing?
     
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    I'm pretty sure that boys and girls swimming naked together in public pools is something that has never been allowed.
     
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    Why would I be conversant with details of what you claim is "my lawsuit"?

    If you provide the text of your filing, I might venture a personal opinion.
     
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    :yawn: Still deflecting.
     
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    Heh, so in this trial, this was considered evidence:

    • The infamous Hollywood Access tape from 2005, with the infamous boast ““When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything … Grab ‘em by the p—sy.”

    My conclusion stands.
     
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    @Bob Newhart

    It was a rape case... always has been a rape case... Jean Carroll says it was a rape....

    and then the jury decided on anything but rape... strange at best... but we are talking New York, which has had a hard on for Trump for a long time...

    Let Trump's lawyer speak for himself

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hgXJJiEAplg

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