Mob in Peoria shoots fireworks at police, firefighters...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig_bJdTlXEU&feature=player_embedded#at=75

 

Hundreds of Thousands of Americans are CCW holders (Legally) and carry Weapons EVERYWHERE that it's leagal for them to do so (Including Restaraunts) for their personal; Protection (Which includes getting Rat Packed by an Unarmed Gang)

 

Getting back to the weapons to Mexico issue there are weapons being channeled with border patrol protection from Russians. Whether this be a government policy or just corrupt border patrol agents taking payoffs I don't know. But I have been trying to get the FBI to follow up on a case where a gunrunner middleman who shiot Mexicans who were also invloved in child trafficking. I can introduce them to this guy.

 

The inability of the police action is due to successive governments giving in to the PC brigade, human rights legislation and being a member of the EC.

The majority of Brits would never consider a gun as a means of self defense. Americans have had such weapons for years and I assume have a basic knowledge of how to point them and how to use them. It's probably second nature to carry and use if necessary.

Imagine the same circumstances in London. People pointing guns everywhere and indiscriminate shootings. The looting may well have been less but the dead body count would be high.

Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

 

Yeah, thank god guns are illegal. That is why we don't have any shootings here.... *sigh* considering who commits 90% of gun crime, I'm not surprised you like to pretend it doesn't exist. I'll give you a hint, they make up 90% of "rioters" aswell.

As for laws to protect us? Do you think criminals don't have guns, because owning a gun would be a crime and no criminal would break the law.
Oh.... wait....

As for it being barbarous to defend yourself with force of arms?

I would rather a woman gun down a man who attempts to rape her.
You would like her to phone the police after the event, assuming she survives.

I would rather see a violent thug gunned down, than an innocent victim stripped and robbed in the streets.
You would rather the victim called the police after the event and get back to paying his taxes to ensure his attacker still gets his welfare.

I would rather see people reporting a shooting in self defence.
You would rather see the victims next of kin crying.

And I am the barbarian?

Disarming law abiding citizens only empowers criminals.
Police don't protect anyone outside of government, they merely clean up after the act.
An unarmed population suits criminals and corrupt governments only.

 

It's not multiculturalism per se, for instance Chinese have lower crime rates than the host population. Young black men are the ones overrepresented in crime. The interesting thing is that people like Powell warned that large scale immigration from the Caribbean might not be a good idea, but were shouted down by people blinded by their ideology over data.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html

 

I pretty sure I didn't say gun crime doesn't exist. Most of the rioters are kids. That doesn't preclude them from obtaining a firearm, but that drastically reduces the ability.

A known criminal in the US cannot get a gun over the counter. However, someone who hasn't got a record can. There is a big distinction here. I love my guns at home [US]. I miss them here [UK]. However I rocognize that it is much more difficult to obtain a gun in the UK than the US. I see this as some protection, even if you don't. It's not a blanket protection, but nothing really is.

Who said that?

Why do you say that. Being a gun owner, I would pick the former. You seem to think that I'm a liberal tree hugger, to coin a phrase, just because I think that guns being illegal in the UK means lower gun crime than in countries where it isn't illegal.

STill second guessing incorrectly?

What gives you that impression? I would agree with the statements above.

I'd be interested to see gun crime statistics between the UK and the US, proportionally balanced of course. If you have some figures and a link to back that up, I would agree, but for the most part I think the regular criminal will find it difficult to obtain weapons. Not impossible, but difficult. They need to know the right people. Not all criminals are "down with the mob", and there are a hell of a lot of criminals out there.

 

You know that Powell was the minister responsible for bringing them over in the first place, right?

 

Murder by firearm (the only gun crime for which there appear to be reliable comparative statistics,) is, on a per capita basis, approx. 28 times more frequent in the USA, compared to the UK.

Murders with firearms per million people (rounded up)

USA ___________________________ 28
UK ____________________________ 1

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir_percap-crime-murders-firearms-per-capita

 

Thanks for that, which goes some way in assiting my point; although it would be nice if there were total gun crime stats which could even things out a little more I guess [in the interest of being fair].

 

''THEIR'' human rights while robbing and threatning OTHERS? HA!! WHAT A LAUGH!!

 

Shoot myself in the foot?...That's funny.

I can see your repeating what the squirrels in your head are telling you.

 

At least three were killed by a speeding rioter's car. Oh, wait, that doesn't count because they weren't rioters. They were simply victims of the rioters.

 

Sorry Beevee, I have this incredible ability to know when my wife's life or mine is being threatened..you need an investigation huh? When a guy is weilding a weapon, and is demanding your wallet and jewlery, that IS your investigation, I do not need much else..
If one gets shot that you feel might have been avoided, too bad, that's the chance they are taking. There are risks and consequences when you plan on mugging people, besides they interrupted many deserts....

 

I honestly don't think such stats would make much difference. Guns, especially hand-guns, are very hard to come by (even for criminal gangs) in the UK, and I doubt many petty crims would go to the bother and risk of getting a Glock to hold up the corner shop.

 

Ummm ... how do you interrupt a desert? Like they don't do much except shift sand about.

 

That's what I'm disputing in another thread... whilst we have human rights, the rights of the looters must still be respected until they are sentenced. Seems crazy, but that's what happens

 

Russians definitely traffic a lot of weapons in general. The AK-47 is one of Russia's major exports.

 

Its going to get worse for Britain. The criminals are going to see how easy it is to rob and steal and they will do more of it.

Heck, all they need to do his have their big thug friend with a bat to intimate the average citizen.

Oh well, have fun.. This is only a taste of things to come. Especially, if the economy continues to get worse. Do something like this in Texas, and you get shot.

 

Its going to get worse for Britain. The criminals are going to see how easy it is to rob and steal and they will do more of it.

Heck, all they need to do his have their big thug friend with a bat to intimate the average citizen.

Oh well, have fun.. This is only a taste of things to come. Especially, if the economy continues to get worse. Do something like this in Texas, and you get shot.

 

Burgess's dystopian fable, A Clockwork Orange, is actually very aposite.

 

Denver gettin' ready to deal with hooligans...

Denver watching, preparing to protect against youth riots
8/12/2011 - With the unemployment rate for young Americans mimicking that of the United Kingdom and the nations' youth also sharing a sense of boredom and disenfranchisement, the question for academics and some in law enforcement isn't whether rioting flash mobs like those in England could erupt here, but why they haven't already in large numbers.

 

Most likely the ones looking for Obama votes. Watch out come voteing time.

 

Its like the criminals just don't have the BALLS to play BASEBALL.