Nearly a third of Republicans say they will never get vaccinated, new poll finds

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  1. Joe knows

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    Education is never bad and I don’t believe that being educated is a trait that makes you lean one way or another.
     
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    It is. Some of them have even said they want to outlaw voting for certain groups because they are not educated on the issues. I asked the poster who wrote that why his right to vote should stay intact while he wants to silence other Americans who also have that same right.

    Crickets.

    All they do is nothing to contribute to the overall good for everyone (and that's what their worthless deity has been clinging to - it's only "their" country) while exploiting and/or disenfranchising anybody that doesn't look, love or worship the way they do.
     
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    As soon as you or anyone else can tell me whether or not there is an increased chance for heart disease, metabolic issues, cancer, reproductive problems etc etc


    Then I’ll take the shot.

    I’ll wait right here for you to tell me what that risk is mr science.
     
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    Three. This is the D.
     
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    Snotloller
     
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    I love that you no longer identify Georgia as a Red State...

    Prepare to scratch North Carolina as well, as soon as 2024...
     
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    Yes, you are. I don't care, everyone has a lean one way or another, but your own posting records prove this to be utterly false.
     
  8. HockeyDad

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    Way to miss the point. The point is that there is a STRONG and UNDENIABLE correlation between a states death rate and if it has a significant black population. There is no correlation between death rate and how a state votes. It is almost like all the fascism enacted by tyrannical monsters in blue states had no impact whatsoever on Covid death rates. This will come as a surprise to people like you but people like me have been aware of this for at least a year now. Data matters to people like me. Does it matter to people like you?

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    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    I hope you will also ask them what benefit the shot provides....:angel:
     
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    And here's the risk the Repubs want to force on women:

    Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

    • exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    • altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    • nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
    • heartburn and indigestion
    • constipation
    • weight gain
    • dizziness and light-headedness
    • bloating, swelling, fluid retention
    • hemmorhoids
    • abdominal cramps
    • yeast infections
    • congested, bloody nose
    • acne and mild skin disorders
    • skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
    • mild to severe backache and strain
    • increased headaches
    • difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    • increased urination and incontinence
    • bleeding gums
    • pica
    • breast pain and discharge
    • swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
      (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    • extreme pain on delivery
    • hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    • continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
    Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

    • stretch marks (worse in younger women)
    • loose skin
    • permanent weight gain or redistribution
    • abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    • pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
    • changes to breasts
    • increased foot size
    • varicose veins
    • scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    • other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
    • increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    • loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    • higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
    • newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)
    Occasional complications and side effects:

    • complications of episiotomy
    • spousal/partner abuse
    • hyperemesis gravidarum
    • temporary and permanent injury to back
    • severe scarring requiring later surgery
      (especially after additional pregnancies)
    • dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
    • pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
    • eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
    • gestational diabetes
    • placenta previa
    • anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    • thrombocytopenic purpura
    • severe cramping
    • embolism (blood clots)
    • medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
    • diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
    • mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    • serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
    • hormonal imbalance
    • ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    • broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    • hemorrhage and
    • numerous other complications of delivery
    • refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    • aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
    • severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    • research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
    • research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
    • research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
    Less common (but serious) complications:

    • peripartum cardiomyopathy
    • cardiopulmonary arrest
    • magnesium toxicity
    • severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    • massive embolism
    • increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    • molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
      (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
    • malignant arrhythmia
    • circulatory collapse
    • placental abruption
    • obstetric fistula
    More permanent side effects:


    • future infertility
    • permanent disability
    • death."""""""""""""""""""
     
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    they see ending the pandemic as a win for Biden... it's sad
     
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    How so? I do not like Trump but that's because he's pure evil. I would dislike him no matter what party he was in or if I met him on the street (even without him being famous).

    I don't care for Biden either. I don't think he's senile but I also don't think he is polished enough.
     
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    And yet the state is Red. One possible conclusion is that most blacks don't vote hence they are not Dems
     
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    Damn, you hit him with facts. You’re not playing fair.
     
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    Do you lie to merely lie! Look what has happened to tuition rates since the federal government took over student loans!! You and your ilk has made it VASTLY harder for the poor to get an education! Nothing to do with republicans!
     
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    It's honestly difficult to take this seriously when we have open boarders and no one coming through is required to be vaccinated. Unless it has changed since I've last heard anything in that regard. But if it hasn't then this administration is allowing non citizens to cross our border and into our nation with being vaccinated. So either this is a serious pandemic or it's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Either way the government has proven itself to be untrustworthy.
     
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    Guess she shouldn’t have had sex with someone she didn’t want a baby with
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Across these 42 states, as of December 13, 2021, 58% percent of White people had received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose, which was close to the rate for Hispanic people (56%) but higher than the rate for Black people (51%).
    https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...a-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/

    Since 30% of Republicans say they won't take the vaccine then that means that Republicans are more hesitant than Latinos. Also blacks represent only 13% of the population so a relatively small number. But hey, I thought that Latinos were turning Republican
     
  20. Egoboy

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    LOL... you didn't remotely prove that..

    You listed the top 12 states by black populations, then the top 12 states by COVID death rates...

    Only 6 of the states were in both lists...

    That's 50%.... and you are going to call that STRONG and UNDENIABLE??
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    And here's the risk the Repubs want to force on women:

    Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

    • exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    • altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    • nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
    • heartburn and indigestion
    • constipation
    • weight gain
    • dizziness and light-headedness
    • bloating, swelling, fluid retention
    • hemmorhoids
    • abdominal cramps
    • yeast infections
    • congested, bloody nose
    • acne and mild skin disorders
    • skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
    • mild to severe backache and strain
    • increased headaches
    • difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    • increased urination and incontinence
    • bleeding gums
    • pica
    • breast pain and discharge
    • swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
      (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    • extreme pain on delivery
    • hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    • continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
    Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

    • stretch marks (worse in younger women)
    • loose skin
    • permanent weight gain or redistribution
    • abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    • pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
    • changes to breasts
    • increased foot size
    • varicose veins
    • scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    • other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
    • increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    • loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    • higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
    • newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)
    Occasional complications and side effects:

    • complications of episiotomy
    • spousal/partner abuse
    • hyperemesis gravidarum
    • temporary and permanent injury to back
    • severe scarring requiring later surgery
      (especially after additional pregnancies)
    • dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
    • pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
    • eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
    • gestational diabetes
    • placenta previa
    • anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    • thrombocytopenic purpura
    • severe cramping
    • embolism (blood clots)
    • medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
    • diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
    • mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    • serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
    • hormonal imbalance
    • ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    • broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    • hemorrhage and
    • numerous other complications of delivery
    • refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    • aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
    • severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    • research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
    • research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
    • research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
    Less common (but serious) complications:

    • peripartum cardiomyopathy
    • cardiopulmonary arrest
    • magnesium toxicity
    • severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    • massive embolism
    • increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    • molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
      (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
    • malignant arrhythmia
    • circulatory collapse
    • placental abruption
    • obstetric fistula
    More permanent side effects:


    • future infertility
    • permanent disability
    • death."""""""""""""""""""


    Thank you for reaffirming that righties only want to punish women for having consensual sex...the fetus means nothing.


    And for affirming you had no rebuttal to my post.
    ..
     
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    Statements not only made about Trump, but anything that leans right you have issue with and paintbrush anyone who may lean right, but not necessarily a Trump supporter.

    As I said, I'm fine with it. Knowing someone's lean gives insight to the person. I lean Conservative on a large number of subjects, but not all. I have voted all sides of the political spectrum, usually at the local level. I am not a Trump supporter, he's a twit. I think Biden is a puppet, and doesn't have an original thought in his confused mind.
     
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    I didn’t punish them for it. They did it to themselves. That’s not my fault. That’s like saying it’s societies fault that we punish someone for drinking and driving.

    Don’t make dumbass decisions and you won’t have to deal with the dumbass consequences.
     
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    Isn't it time for you to go club a mastodon for dinner?
     
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    I am not aligned with any political party; however, I am against all forms of discrimination (ie. sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, nationality, religion, etc.). I don't have to be part of any specific subgroup category to vehemently defend everyone's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    For example, I'm a former Christian. I have always volunteered in my community and always helped others when I can. One day, an elderly woman was making her away across a busy parking lot. I stood in the line of traffic to block cars until she could get across. She thanked me and said "You are such a good Christian." I didn't tell her that I'm an atheist and I've never understood why believers (or any faith\denomination) thinks kindness comes with some kind of belief in a deity (or deities).

    Many racists have walked up to me and said all kinds of garbage about other groups of people. Homophobic people have done the same thing regarding non-heterosexual people. It is automatically assumed that one is racist and homophobic solely because the speaker has reached that conclusion without asking. I've been accused of being gay because I don't hate gay people and nobody can tell me why that matters. I have reported racism in the workplace and the investigator told me that the employer is well-known to cheat black and brown employees. In fact, he makes a point of hiring and cheating them because the regulatory agency close the cases. His question to me was "Why do you care? It's just n****** and s****." I care because it's not right.

    CD, I don't believe it's fair to categorize most Republicans with Trump. He has spread his cancer to many of them but not ALL of them. They may have to hold their nose to vote for him but they will if they don't get this sorted out before the next election.

    So, I will concede that I lean toward "what is the right thing?". It's your choice to associate that with a specific party. I honestly stopped paying attention to politics after an internship at a local political candidate's office. I only held my nose and started looking into things more because I have two children and want to understand what's going on that will impact their futures.

    I don't agree with your opinion about my leanings but I don't have to agree with you to defend your inalienable right to Freedom of Speech. Thanks for sharing it.
    I tend to think anybody in the Oval Office is a puppet and the same few very rich and very powerful people pull the strings. The elections and partisanship bickering is just a way to keep us distracted and angry at one another. Sadly, it's working.
     

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