Neely was a threat and a danger to everyone around him

No biggie.

 

Neely was a violent, suicidal maniac who posed a threat to everyone around him. And that is why he got choked out.

 

I was referring to what Donald J Trump taking out an ad on the Central Park Jogger rape case in which he accused the five black men and pretty much called for the DP in that case. Because of the publicity, it was a lynching, not in a literal sense, but a figurative one. And the reason why I brought that up is because the public was out for blood on that case as has been with other cases throughout the past. Second, if it was not for the publicity, maybe the police would have found the right person who did rape the woman instead going after five men who were in fact falsely accused from the very beginning.

In relation to the Neely case, I do not want the public to make the same mistake with the marine who is accused of manslaughter. The way the evidence is now, I think he has a good chance at winning with a self defense claim. But that is going to be based on the grand jury if the grand jury indicts him and what other witnesses on that specific train will testify to. Or in other words, the marine is facing the exact same thing as the five men who were falsely accused.

 

He basically killed a man in a dispute and left him to rot, no remorse. If USA is not the white supremacist utopia many of us believe it to be, hell serve a minimum 10 years

 

Sure, that is what is being reported, though as always, there are inconsistencies and disputes over exactly what is reported by different media sources (also, whether he was suicidal wouldn't be automatically apparent in the moment and I'm not sure it'd be directly relevant anyway).

That's why there is a legal process, with investigators to determine exactly what happened to the best of their ability and prosecutors to determine whether what happened suggests criminal behaviour that should be prosecuted (which could well extend to other people whose actions or negligence led to the victim being their in the first place). Regardless, whenever one person kills another and asserts self-defence, it is vital that we confirm whether their actions were necessary and justified in the circumstances and whether the actual death was accidental, negligent or intentional.

 

NYC is a crime-ridden cesspool where innocent people die every day. But one violent maniac gets choked out in NYC and suddenly liberals are outraged. Gee, I wonder why.

 

Neely had multiple assaults on his record, including an assault where he sucker-punched an old woman in the head, fracturing her skull in the process.

Neely's mere presence was a danger and a threat to others. He went on the train looking for trouble and he found it. In other words, he "effed around and found out".

In a sane society, the marine would be viewed as a standup citizen who acted to defend the rule of law against a violent criminal.

Instead, vindictive, power-hungry liberals are trying to destroy the marine's life for political gain.

 

it’s no surprise you have no experience in a country where criminals are not allowed to do whatever they want, to whomever. You managed to squeeze racism into this where none was present, can you peel us off a little black Hebrew piece and maybe a flat erf angle to this? Especially since this guy saved everyone on the train from a psychotic felon with a history of violence?

 

He was a fellow human being in mental distress who had neither harmed nor threaten to harm anyone.

He did nothing to justify his being murdered,

 

Here's hoping you never get cornered and threatened by a violent criminal. But if you do you will appreciate a good samaritan coming to your aid. The criminal had to be restrained because he kept fighting -- bad things can happen when you keep resisting a U.S. Marine.

 

He did a lot to justify him being locked up for life. But he was free to roam the streets and intimidate or harm innocent people. Why?

 

So what? He's black and was killed by a white guy. That's the only thing that counts.

 

To be murdered when the mentally-unstable fellow was threatening no one, apparently.

When did you sentence him to life imprisonment?

 

Normal people do not murder and violently assault people. If you’re all upset over people using guns to murder innocent people, but don’t care when unstable psychotic people threaten people around them the utopia you seek isn’t the US. I get it, any excuse sells as long as it fits an agenda.

the rest of us are trying to stop those loons from hurting people not enabling them.

 

Your evasion fails. Please do not resort to diversions, mo matter how desperate you may be,

Who was the victim threatening or attacking when he was choked to death?

 

The other people on the train, it’s in the video. I get it, letting criminals with mental problems run around committing assaults is totally cool with some folks. He had a long history of assault. Did, anyway he fafo’d himself and the world is already safer.

are you mad when crazy people get guns but not when they get stopped from assaulting people?

 

We need to stop favoring the criminals over those who step up and protect us.

 

I ask again, the killer can read minds? His victim wasn't doing anything violent on the bus and the aggressor had no way of knowing the victim's past. Seems he's at least as dangerous to society as his victim if not more so.

 

Yep.
Did Penny use "reasonable force" throughout the approx 15 mins?
From start until Neely was dead and AFTER his death by holding him in a chokehold is what will be determined in a self-defence claim by a Grand Jury.

 

The video shows a mentally-ill individual in a state of distress, neither threatening, nor attacking anyone.

There is no justification for killing him when he obviously needed help.

Whether you can admit it, I suspect you must realize that.

 

The apologists for Neely are leftwing zealots. Daniel Penny is a hero because he stepped in to protect others from this violent lunatic. His best chance for beating the bias of a corrupt NY city prosecutor is to try and get his trial moved out of the mostly Democratic/leftwing NY city. I heard his defense fund has grown to over a million dollars. Hopefully, he gets a fair trial.

 

I agree. They are complicit. Corrupt prosecutors who put their Politics before the good of the people need to be run out of office.

 

“Taking him down” isn’t the issue.
Killing him is the issue.

Had he just subdued him very few people would have an issue with this, but that isn’t what happened.

 

Mentally ill people going ape-**** and threatening people is incredibly dangerous. What he needed is his problem, if you make your problems a safety concern you get dealt with.
I guess this clown could just take over places and threaten people and that’s ok with you.
He wasn’t murdered, he wasn’t dead on purpose. I’m surprised you’re defending mentally deranged felons but that’s exactly why people need weapons.

being a mental case doesn’t give you the right to threaten people and terrorize everyone.

 

Nothing like still chokeholding a guy until the cops arrive especially after you had been told he has defecated and you're killing him.