Negative effects of same-sex marriage being legalized

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by DevilMay, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Human sexuality has certain parameters. It's science, not individual perceptions. If you're gay, science can define figure that out.

    People aren't gay because of what they DO... they are gay because of their inherent sexual-orientation. It's not a matter of some choice to perform this/that sexual act.

    In other words, gay people can do STRAIGHT things and straight people can do GAY things; doing those things/acts doesn't absolutely define their "sexual-orientation".
     
  2. danboy9787

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    That is an entirely different view point. But you are correct. there are lazy people and not lazy people. BOTH have the optional or free will to work or not work. However, for marriage you are preventing some group from having it. Your point does not make any sense. The reason we are a REPUBLIC (not a democracy like you say) is because democracies are mob rule that do not hardly ever protect the weak or the minority. Republics however, have laws in place to protect the weak and the minorities.
     
  3. kreo

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    That is all irrelevant. If gays are for equality they should demand to extend marriage for everyone not for homosexuals only.
    Special rights are special rights if they are for special people.
    No matter what you say.
     
  4. danboy9787

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    Thats stupid. If you were gay and wanted to be married, you wouldn't be worried about some guy that wants to marry a goat also. Your argument is valueless. Of course a groups is going to be interested in their own rights.
     
  5. danboy9787

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    NOT THE APPLE PIE D:

    wait... I prefer pecan. Eh, let'm marry.
     
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    No actually it doesn't.

    You know why? Because regardless of whether or not a person is a virgin...they still know what sexually arouses them.

    So while your dating Rosey Palms and her five friends...your thinking of something, more than likely the gender that arouses you sexually.
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    On a side note, what you had to share above... illustrates one EXACT reasons why children need to be taught better and more thoroughly about human sexuality.

    By you/I having to EXPLAIN the concept of sexual-orientation to ANYONE old enough to hold a discussion here... it shows just how literally ignorant or misinformed many people are. No need to leave kids 'confused', if there is no good reason for it.
     
  8. kreo

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    Thanks for confirming my point, that is exactly right. Gays are for special rights only wherever the see fit. They like special right of minorities they declare themselves minorities, they like rights of married people they are after those rights.
    They want to be equal with all categories that get some benefits.
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    All groups focus upon certain issues more than others. Your point is essentially invalid.

    Homosexual people don't declare themselves a 'minority', they actually ARE a minority.

    What the heck are you talking about?!

    They are human beings like everyone else... they should be treated and protected EQUALLY under the law. Oh... and according to the U.S> Constitution (that very important document), they are allowed to speak on their behalf, for the purpose of expressing certain grievances. Would you take that right away? I think you likely would if the Constitution allowed you to.
     
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    So... your argument is they shouldn't be allowed to marry because that is what they want?
     
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    And straight people aren't for special rights when THEY see fit?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Umm, if gays can marry, and straights can marry, that covers everyone. Who else are you thinking will want to get married? Some other human race we've not heard of yet?
     
  13. DevilMay

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    You can't ask for "special rights" when those exact same "special rights" already exist for a particular group of people - i.e. heteosexuals. If a specific "group" is AHEAD of you in terms of certain rights, then you CANNOT be said to be seeking rights that transcend theirs - simply that you seek rights EQUAL to theirs. You're attempting to attain an equal footing - to be on par. No "protected class", no extra rights... simply equal rights.
     
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    They are special rights because they say they are.
     
  15. DevilMay

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    By some odd twist of reality. But that's never phased them before, if it don't fit...
     
  16. kreo

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    There is not such thing as heterosexual rights. You have made it up.
    There are general rights of people, regardless of their sexuality.

    It is amazing how people get brainwashed easily. Divide people by certain characteristics and demand a conditions from the government to compensate for that characteristics.
    It is a same thing as if you say. Majority of smart people have higher income, since I am not that smart I have a right to demand government to distribute part of their income to me.

    Sexuality has no relevance to marriage whatsoever.
    Please find anything anywhere in the marriage laws where sexuality has ever been mentioned.
    It is a political trick that have been used by gays to get benefits that they have nothing to do with.
     
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    on a side note Johnny, that is in your opinion and in your world

    I have taught my children that what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms is of no concern and does not make them who they are.

    It surprises me that the gay movement has a problem with that.

    But, since I do not view how you have sex as making you a new gender or race then I am categorized as homophobe, or hater, or the often used term, "ignorant"

    From what I see, when you peel back the layers, and toss aside all the BS words, it comes down to acceptance. For some reason, be it lack of spine, confidence or what ever, the gay movement wants to legislate thought.

    Why in heaven they feel it important to try to legislate the thoughts of a few evil people is beyond me.

    if you take a simple poll of people on the street and ask do they care what 2 consenting adults do in their bedroom I bet you'll get an overhwhelming percentage who say nope. But, that does not seem to be enough for the gay movment.

    While the rest of us go about our lives being moms, dads, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, plumbers, electricians, Drs etc it's not enough. Nope, they want us to be gay dads, gay Drs, gay plumbers etc etc

    who cares what we do in our bedrooms??????
     
  18. DevilMay

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    So what you are saying is that LGB people should be satisfied with the right to have sex and should ask for no more?

    "Hey, we may not get any government recognition of our relationship, we may be able to get sacked from our jobs and thrown out of our homes if we reveal the nature of our relationship, but at least we can have sex without getting arrested!"
     
  19. kreo

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    I do not care. You are free to call yourself with any name.
    Naming certain group LGB or LGBT does not make you eligible for more rights.
    Sex is your private business and no one discriminate gays.
    You are 50 years behind.
     
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    Gay people are not discriminated against? LOL so do you think that blacks were not discriminated against either?
     
  21. DevilMay

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    And that's what sets me and you apart. I care. The majority of Americans care. There's no way you can call me 50 years behind when this is precisely the era of gay rights you would wish to return to.
     
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    We are done with those issues, no point to bring it up.
     
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    This days it is irrelevant. we are discussing special rights for gays.
     
  24. DevilMay

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    For a comparison, especially with regards to interracial marriage (since the action to marry a member of a different race is a CHOICE, just like marrying someone of the same gender), it is entirely relevant.

    What is irrelevant these days? Democracy? It's lovely that the anti-gay crowd always tout the will of the majority in states where most people oppose SSM, yet as soon as we talk about the majority who support it on the national level it's "irrelevant". Just saying.

    But yeah, as I said before, technically there are no "special rights" since ALL sexual orientations become a protected class when hate crime/non-discrimination legislation is introduced.
     
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    no, YOU are discussing special rights for gays. the rest of us are discussing EQUAL rights for gays.
     

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