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New Mexico governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Grishem deprived them of that right.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    Hopefully someone just had an epiphany when they realized there are male threats AND women in Albuquerque!
     
    557, Sep 10, 2023
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm waiting, possibly in vain, for them to figure out that this isn't just a 2A issue. A governor can't ban a right, any right, by executive order.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question here was are all items listed in the constitution absolute.

    I didn’t realize it was going to cause so much confusion with your ilk.
     
    cd8ed, Sep 10, 2023
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish I could say the same for you.

    Can someone practice their belief of stoning a woman if they are not a virgin? Can Muslims murder non believers?
     
    cd8ed, Sep 10, 2023
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    There is zero question that the governor does not have the authority to pretend that she's the one that gets to interpret that.

    But it's no surprise that your ilk supports her authoritarian overreach.
     
    FatBack, Sep 10, 2023
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    Very low population density. One cannot expect the environment in which the laws are applying, will not also play a role, in the equation.
     
    DEFinning, Sep 10, 2023
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    Your reply adds no pertinent information, falsely represents me as "debat(ing) something," and just generally shows you to not understand the post, to which you think you are offering a reply that has any applicability, whatsoever.
     
    DEFinning, Sep 10, 2023
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    Assault is illegal. Any religion that believes in performing honor killings, human sacrifice, or stoning will be breaking the law, but their religions can't be banned. Is Islam banned in The United States? No, it isn't.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    Again, I am sorry the very simple question presented to be too complex for some.
     
    cd8ed, Sep 10, 2023
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    So that means there are limits to freedom of religion.
    Good job! You finally made it and thus answering the question asked 4 pages ago.
     
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    Maybe if you keep trying you'll be able to comprehend it....
     
    FatBack, Sep 10, 2023
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    Are you serious???

    How many more constitutional amendments do we need before people get the idea that racism is NOT OK.
     
    WillReadmore, Sep 10, 2023
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    Almost every single individual who is in prison is coming back to free society, including those with life sentences.

    What you teach them in prison is what they will bring with them.

    Just exactly what is it that YOU want to teach them?
     
    WillReadmore, Sep 10, 2023
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    This is hardly even a half assed analysis.

    By focusing on skin color you are dodging important factors in crime - for example, poverty.

    This is a typical direction that racists take, and you should resist that.
     
    WillReadmore, Sep 10, 2023
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    Actually I think she’s testing “States Rights”, which is part of the Constitution. Nothing “communist” about it.

    I think she’s set herself up for s loss in front of the Supreme’s. But, it is an interesting case to follow.
     
    Noone, Sep 10, 2023
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    Oh I completely understand the pathetic dodging.

    He is the original question presenting such an issue
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    Let me know if you need it highlighted
     
    cd8ed, Sep 10, 2023
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    Vermont's population density is 70 people per square mile. Mississippi's is 63 people per square mile.

    Vermont's violent crime rate is 1.87 per thousand. Mississippi's is 2.54 per thousand.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    No State has the right to suspend the civil rights of the citizenry.

    What she's doing isn't just unconstitutional. It's also criminal.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    Name ONE banned religion in The United States.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    I said I think She’ll lose. But, as I read OUR Constitution States have the right and responsibility to protect their citizens. The 10th Amendment says they says so. The 10th wasn’t “incorporated” into the 14th as was the 2nd. So, she does have some legal footing for her action.
     
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    I just heard the cops might not enforce this decree.
     
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    Oh, I thought you said "per capita".
     
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    If you read the 9th Amendment, you learn that...

    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

    ...so, no, she doesn't have the authority to suspend the Constitution.

    If Grisham wants to protect the citizens of New Mexico, she can get to work right away on the police shortage...



    https://www.krqe.com/plus/data-repo...ne-with-albuquerques-police-officer-shortage/

    https://www.kob.com/archive/more-apd-officers-have-left-the-department-this-year-than-in-2020/

    New Mexico passed legislation stripping cops of legal protections. That isn't going to mend the retention and recruiting problems...

    https://eji.org/news/new-mexico-end...New Mexico,the obstacle of qualified immunity.

    Law abiding citizens owning guns isn't the problem.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 10, 2023
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    Did she cite any New Mexico law that permits this act?
     
    Chickpea, Sep 10, 2023
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