Notes on Florida math textbooks reveal why some were sent back to publishers

Is it part of the Murdoch empire? Y/N

https://www.fox13news.com/about
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

Ya know there is a thing called “research”/ sarcasm

 

You should do a little more research and understand what that actually means here in the states. I’ll give you a rundown on how that works here:

They play Fox Entertainment shows(different division from Fox News) like the Simpsons, Family Guy, NFL football, and other sitcoms and reality shows(Empire was on Fox), which are typically pretty liberal programming, with their two biggest, longest running shows repeatedly mocking all of Fox. It’s not Fox News. It’s not Tucker Carlson. The local news is just that, the local news. Like here in Dallas, we have Fox 4. Channel 8 is ABC, 11 is CBS and 5 is NBC. Other than the entertainment programming, they are local channels. You could have watched Friends on 5, Big Bang Theory on 11, and The Wonder Years on 8.

 

Let ME clue you in

The blurb about itself says it is part of Foxnews - unless you are trying to tell me this is an entertainment show

 

No it didn’t. It said it was a part of Fox-owned television stations. Strange that you can’t read your own posts, but that’s neither here nor there. They have different divisions.

Funny enough, Fox Entertainment(the division where the sitcom and reality shows come from and is what gets played on the local affiliates) is owned by Disney now.

You should research local affiliates and what that means.

 

No what he is trying to tell you is that fox news channel is a cable channel and is completely different then a local news station on fox. Local news stations can be very liberal or very conservative or anywhere in between.

 

Notes from teachers provided by your link did not specify what the notes were about generally. However, in the few examples, I did see in the article, nothing the notes said to indicate why they were sent back. What was revealed was a little ambiguity. It appears conservatives and DeSantis are having a hard time with the concept of "context." For instance, in the article, it stated, "A teacher in the same county found in a stats textbook a statement about there being "too many white police officers" in New York when compared to the racial makeup of the community." Depending on how the stats information was presented. Was it trying to make a point about how stats are used, to use the critical thinking skills that most conservatives and kids lack these days. Or was it an actual statistical problem based on a real-life scenario? or something else. This would depend on what grade the textbook was used for and what the actual problem or example was.

If one is trying this hard to try to prove themselves right, then you know something is wrong with either the data or the result or both.

 

I recall a few times growing up teachers giving us copies from other than our official textbook to teach from because they liked how a different text book than the one we were using explained whatever better. That is how I knew that apparently there are a plethora of available textbooks they have to choose among to be the official one. For that reason, I don't rule out the possibility that there are out there ones being sent to schools. The only issue is whether the schools themselves adopted them.

 

Standard " Duh fox bad" response.

 

Looking at this example:

It is basically saying that conservatives are racist.
Maybe it's based on fact, maybe not. Maybe the data was from a small town in Connecticut. I don't know and it doesn't matter.
What if the examples given in the math book were like "Shootings in Chicago by race" then follow that by "Crack use by race", then follow that by "poverty by race", then "education level by race"

While all will show how much it sucks to be black, it doesn't tell the whole story. It does, however, paint a picture about black people. It appears that the math books in question are doing the same thing with conservative / liberal topics. This may be purely by accident due to the bias of the editor and writers. Regardless, it shouldn't happen. You can do the same math by using examples of birds, trees, or wildflowers.

 

Where is that example from?

 

That isn't the question. The question is whether or not the information they provided is true, and it is. But if it makes you feel better, here is actually a more comprehensive article from NBC: Florida DOE releases 6,000 pages of why it rejected math books | WFLA

In that article, you will see it clarified that the objection wasn't whether or not "climate change" is real, the real question is whether or not it constitutes a "crisis" (I say no, based on the fact that I have lived most of my life in a coastal community and the water levels haven't changed in any way that doesn't require a very, very tiny ruler, and that left-wing politicians are still buying oceanfront properties for millions, that insurance companies are writing policies for), and many, many more examples.

Next up, in an internet search that took me about 15 seconds, I found this that may be even more to your liking, straight from the horses mouth: Instructional Materials (fldoe.org)

The bottom line here is you're playing Ostrich and sticking your head in the sand because you don't like hearing the actual truth.

It's also really none of your business since you live like 10,000 miles away.

I find it ironic that many of the posters that were accusing the State of having an intentional lack of transparency, perhaps even making stuff up that didn't exist have bothered to participate, acknowledge that they were wrong, and perhaps even offer up an apology. Sadly, I'm not all that surprised by that, however, as they were so very emphatic that it was all just bullshit, and if they would just release specifics all of us racists would see that it was bullshit.

But I do so love being the one to rub the truth in their faces.

BTW, as regards that local Fox affiliate that you just dismiss out of hand because it's associated with the f-word, I can tell you they tend to be quite liberal in their reporting, and their personal politics when it comes up, which to their credit is only occasionally. They reported on protests over rent increases and demands for subsidized housing and rent controls in the downtown St. Pete area without even bothering to note that the organizers and participants were proud and avowed socialists, information that was upfront and center simply by going to their websites. They didn't mention that part of the story, and in this capitalist country, that is something that should absolutely be mentione.

If it resulted in their viewers developing an overall negative opinion about them and their ideas, well, it should. We do not need such groups involved with our government or laws, as they run contrary to the American way of life.

Maybe after seeing this, you'll actually believe it's not just some Fox fantasy that they plucked out of their ass. But I doubt it.

 

I lived in NYC for many years, and that was not something that I ever observed as there was, and probably still are (though many of them left after "defund the police", and "get jabbed or get fired") plenty of black cops.

Regardless, if that's a real issue, it belongs in a poly-sci class and even then only for high school students. Certainly not in any sort of math class, even if it's Prob and Stats, which is just a highly focused math class.

Crap like this and all the public comments made by teachers about not wanting parents to hear what they're teaching their kids is why the teaching community needs to be under a fine-tooth comb, and monitored like a hawk. Far too many of them care more about indoctrinating OPKs than educating them, as is their job. We need cameras in classrooms that parents, administrators, elected officials, the press, and possibly other groups and individuals can access whenever they like, and without any sort of red light coming on telling the teachers that someone is watching. Doggie daycare has cameras that doggie parents can monitor as they see fit, the same should be true for the kiddy daycare we call school.

 

Largely false. They make less for many reasons. Vast majority of which has nothing to do with them having their plumbing being on the inside.

Social agenda's have nothing to do with math. Period. Keep them out of the math books.

Sorry to break it to you, but climate change is disputed. Not the fact that climate changes. That's a no brainer that even flat earthers would acknowledge. But man made climate change is what is disputed. And that should not be in a math book. Hell, it shouldn't be in a math book even IF it wasn't disputed.

 

Mentioning climate change is...........insidious....?

Overreacting much?

Climate change IS an indisputable fact. We are spending big money down here in Florida to combat it. Sea walls are being raised, because seawater floods streets, so we know for fact that its happening.

Clearly is looks like DeSantis is adding climate change on the "forbidden topics" list and more topics will follow (looks like gender pay gap is also now forbidden, even though it is also factually true).

 

Another article that I also posted to appease those who just dismissed the story without consideration because of the stations relationship with that F-Word brand, and also because it was much more detailed and offered a lot of other good information.

It clarified that it wasn't whether or not "climate change" is real or not, but rather whether or not it qualifies as a "crisis" as if that were an indisputable fact. Myself and many others don't think it is, and I live in a coastal area. Then again, if the water level rises enough, I'll have waterfront property. But that would take a permanent raise of 70-something FEET, as I by sheer coincidence live in about the highest ground that exists in the entire county.

 

Sounds like you think the world revolves around you.

It will probably be a crises in many areas during the lifetime of the kids who are now in school. It's absurd schools are being banned from talking about it. Why on earth? How can you possibly support it, and call talking about it "insidious"?

 

The local news agencies are owner by the local station and NOT Fox News, same with CBS and ABC and NBC affiliates.

Years ago there was a similar claim that "Fox News says it has a right to broadcast lies". The story was two reporters were investigating a company and they interviewed the president of the company but didn't believe him. The station news manager told them they had to include his statement in their report to give it balance no matter what they believed about it. They revolted and made a stink about having to give both sides and the story went viral that FOX NEWS REPORTS LIES AND CLAIMS THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO. It wasn't Fox News it was the local affiliate which is totally independent of the The Fox (cable) News Channel. And the news manager was right and the blaring headlines totally misplaced.

 

That tells me the teacher was thinking of the students first, not the course material or the textbook. I did this on occasion because I thought the example used in another text book made it easier to teach a specific concept.

One of the biggest issues facing teachers in public schools, including charter schools, is sometimes there are bureaucratic obstacles that obstruct the true value of teaching. And making it worse is what Gov DeSantis and others are doing to public schools.

 

Could you give one solid concrete example of how DeSantis is making it worse?

 

I'll believe it's a "crisis" when this kind of stuff stops, and current owners of such properties decide to tear them down and refuse to pawn them off on a new owner who's going to be under water "any minute now". I also have lived in a coastal community for most of my life, and if the high water lines have changed at all, it's gonna take a pretty tiny ruler used by some sort of expert to notice.

 

Feel free to pretend its not happening. In the meanwhile South Florida and other areas in US are forced to take measures to combat it.

 

That is not necesarrily true. Some of the ABC, NBC, ABC, and Fox local stations are actually owned by the parent organization of said news organization. Most others are owned, "franchised" is probably a better term, which a media conglomerate owns the news station in that city and other cities, not to mention newspapers and radio stations in that city or other cities. Usually, the FCC has rules not to have a media conglomerate own more than one television station in the "region" as well as a newspaper and/or radio station in that same area.

Take a look at what Cox Media Conglomerate owns here.

And the only ones that I know that are truly owned locally are usually PBS stations, some radio stations, and small-time local newspapers.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-examples/index.html

 

The water level in Key West has indeed risen. It's up 6" over the last century. Scary stuff

https://www.flseagrant.org/wp-conte...t-Sheet_dual-column-letterhead_8.2.13_pdf.pdf

 

I don't know if its scary, but is a nuisance if you have to wade thought knee deep water to get to your car. That's why they are raising the sea-walls in those places where flooding is more severe.

PS, it has gone up another 2" since your graph ends, which is why the Army Corps Of Engineers are taking action now.

It was worse about 5 million years ago, when Florida was only about 20% of its current size.