Obama gives himself control of all communication systems in America.

You don't begin with the most fortified skulls, state slaves, and those too 'distracted'...by entertaiments.

Some of them may be of no use, help, or even a contaminate to matters, so best leave those until later.

You first reach out to those...who think as you do...who..can put relatively trivial points of political difference to one side, and get them to understand one simple and key message - that our Gov's have not worked for us now, for some decades, our Gov's make a fool of us all, offer very graphic and easy to understand examples, but adapt each to suit the given group, so, for example, if you were wishing to harness students, you would alter the message, so that it spoke to them, if you were wishing to reach the low paid but fairly aware, then you find what their reaction point is, you work on that.

The key principle remains the same - but how you tell it, differs, according to who you are wishing to relate to.

Only the committed need bother.

No use playing, no use wasting time.

People can take part, from all walks of life, it doesn't matter who they voted for before, it doesn't matter if they never have, if they are old, young, white British, whatever, we will be able to find examples, in EACH case, as to how the Gov is vile, evil, and making a fool of them.

You can reach out to the armed forces.

All legal.

How many US troops are aware, that their brothers, comrades and those they may have even served right alongside....were often dumped in land fill sites, by the US Gov, and neither the families or the site owner were told.

You want to reach out to ex British military, those that may be thinking of it, or those even in it?

Find something like that.

Show them how they are being, used, abused, and exploited.

Show them how about a quarter of the homeless in London are ex vet's.

THAT is what the Gov does with them, that is what your leaders think of the soldiers.

You want to reach out even to cops?

Ex or otherwise?

Show them how the Gov screw them over, time and again.

Etc..

 

What will you do instead?

 

Yeah.

I am so glad they never redefine words, phrases, and terms, and introduce new laws, on the back of them.

Because if they were like, them they could redefine emergency situation, as 'any situation that elities consider a threat, domestic, lawful, or otherwise'.

THANK GOD IT IS NOT LIKE THAT.

*Phew*

 

Of course, they'll do that. But there's not a whole lot that would prevent it.

What's more disturbing is when they codify the ability to indefinitely detain people. That's why the NDAA detention clause is considerably worse than what this thread is discussing.

Vague control over telecommunications is the sort of thing that is mostly inevitable. As individuals, we're not privy to the backroom deals the government makes with private telecoms for information brokering. When you consider how much private industry already does this between corporations, it only can be logically assumed that similar things happen with the government. It also can be logically assumed that the government has the leverage to control telecoms if they really want to during a crisis.

Is it right? Probably not. Is it disturbing? For me, not as much, because a certain amount of cynicism expects it.

It's where the government is more openly oppressive that we should focus our angst, because that's basically the only area where we can effectively push back.

 

Let's just give up then, yes.

Better still, maybe I should give someone in Tel Aviv a ring, reverse charges(to annoy them, lol), and offer to write pro Jewish extremist propaganda.

I can even think of some good stories.

People are going to suffer anyway.

People have always died.

Elites have always tried to abuse power.

No use fighting that.

May as well make hay while it's sinful sun shines, yes?

 

If you're just going to be hyperbolic in your responses, it's not going to lead to much meaningful discussion.

All I'm saying is that government control over major infrastructures like telecoms during a crisis is par for the course.

Now, a related issue that matters a lot more are the repercussions of the upcoming NDAA 2013 bill that allows the government to essentially lie outright via its official sources.

 

Like when Jewish elites give a list to your dummy President, which is then called 'Obama's Kill List', for instance?

Because...you don't really think Obama sits up at night writing the targets down, do you?

You do realise that he is just the shill, the fall guy, in the end.

You are with me there, yes?

You also agree that if he does not compile the names, if these are not really ideas from his mind, that they must come from somewhere.

They don't just sort of grow.

People sit down and basically approve of a drone programme, that has killed many civlians(they had families and names), and which has made the makers of drones, and their shareholders rich.

It is all figured out, then the shill is paid to read it out, and make like it's his, somehow.

Obama is about a real a President, as the Fed Reserve is a true central bank.

He isn't and it isn't.

Both are owned though....not by Americans.

It was the same in Europe, a long time ago.

People thought that the Bank of England, German bank etc, implied some kind of public or Gov ownership.

Utter facade.

They were, in practice, private banks, owned by the then poweful, Rothschild banking dynasty.

Whose fingerprints are all over Israel.

Anway, all of that Obama stuff?

Who DO you think writes it?

Who DO you think is the real minds that create such things?

Is it not true that one of those killed was even American?(drones)

Not that it makes a diff tbh, but come on, at what point do you realise?

At what point do you say 'enough'?

 

It is a possible threat which can be...overcome.

With just a tiny bit of thought.

You could take a worse case scenario, in which they got all mobile phone networks to block all signals.

Go downmarket.

Go low tech.

 

Go Luddite

 

I think we're veering pretty far off topic, but I agree with you on certain parts of this.

 

I agree, but I think that kind of illustrates my point. Telecommunications don't allow for much privacy. Despite the surface level anonymity that the internet provides, it's actually one of the least private ways to communicate in many respects.

When it comes to cell phones, they're essentially mobile tracking devices.

So, ultimately, legislation regarding government control of these things during extenuating circumstances isn't that significant when you consider that they already have the ability to find out an awful lot about you even during normal times.

So, getting off the grid is about the only way to escape this aspect of government. What legislators pass and what executive orders declare are often out of our hands.

 

Two paper cups and a piece of string.

Telephone.

Take f**** g that Jews.

 

How?

And which parts?

 

The Jews own the paper cup and string industry. They should have told you that at Stormfront.

 

I agree that Obama is a puppet of special interests and banks in particular. I just don't especially focus on the Jew part.

It's not about Jews and Israel as much as it is about money and power. Israel is a convenient proxy for us in the Middle East.

 

That is what I mean, mobile phones, esp smart phones, are actually the most terrible method of communcation possible.

Notice how we have literally been engulfed by the mobile and smart phone culture, really, it has gone way and beyond what a silly little device should, in terms of the status and obsession over them.

Not only do ALL those SMS messages you send, get processed, before being sent to the end user, but even with the phone turned off, the SIM card is a location device, as you rightly say. This is fact, this can be proven, this is not a theory.

You know that old saying, that if something looks too good to be true, it probably is?

Well, you see, now that probably billions are enslaved to, and feel naked without, their fecking mobile phone, people have been socially engineered to grow so reliant, on that mode of communication.

And it was only a matter of time before these private mobile phone companies, who are huge, began either selling your data on, or, in conjunction with a state that grows increasingly mentally ill, they would let the state in...to your private life.

And it would only take what this sickened state, and it's disgusting elites DECIDED was 'an emergency', for them to say - CUT- to all mobile comms.

That would soon cause you a big problem.

Like I say, there is something to be said for going low tech.

Like this.....http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doro-WT91X-...TF8&coliid=I1BQCWMY85X0XP&colid=2TQ6AF77KTY2H

 

Well, when people speak of 'international banks', what they really mean, and do not wish to say, is that they realy mean Jewish banking cartels.

Like I have said before, read up on the murky financial terrorism of Goldman Sachs.

And Goldman Sachs are a Jewish construct. I am going to take a punt and guess that Goldman Sachs are not only a Jewish bank, but politcally, they are a Jewish Zionist bank.

I am going to take a punt that the constructs and people that 'own' your Fed, and therefore YOU, are not Muslims or Sikhs or Hidu.

I am going to take a stab that the Chairman of the Fed is not a Mormon.

And before you cite Romney, remember, Jews like to be in positions that MATTER.

They are not usually the puppets.

They have their hand up the backside of the US though.

 

Stormfront you say?

Wow.

We have never heard of that one before.

Well done.

Very well done.

What a truly cunning stunt.

 

Monitoring communications is an invasion of privacy and has risks, but there is a big difference between monitoring communications and controlling communications. Look at Egypt, Libya, and Syria. The governments of those 3 nations wish they could have controlled communications.

 

A cunning linguist like yourself should consider new Jew material so you don't get caught up in a sweeping generalization like that again.

 

I am not in any hurry to arrive at a decision on that. It is easier to say whom I will not for vote than to say who I will, or if I will even bother at all.

 

Did you know only around 2 - 3% of France's population was directly engaged and involved in the French revolution which means that true progressives don't need to be the majority to win. The working class will just adapt like always, somehow we need to get into power, I just wish I could marry a woman from the Rockefeller or Rothschild dynasty because only then I can at least try to change the way they think....

My second solution is to start all over again like Pol Pot tried to and just exterminate every single human being who isn't aware of the truth in the most brutal manner and without mercy.

 

Indeed. Because we KNOW our history...that's the thing.

I have used Jewish banking cartels, in fact I used to always refer to them as that, but I realised that people were playing mental gymnastics with me, every time I used it they would get hung up on it and simply REFUSE to see the rest of my point. They would henpeck at the word "Jew", like as if it's an alien term that their Petri dish sized brains couldn't comprehend.

So I started calling them International bankers and suddenly, they could understand my point.

I mean, it's beyond questioning...

The Rothschild banking dynasty. They are principally the biggest players of finance, even till this day. They control most central banks of this world. The London Gold fix which fixes the price of GOLD every single day meet at the London headquarters of the Rothschild bank, N M Rothschild & Sons. They remain a jewish banking dynasty. The Israeli supreme court was built by the Rothschild family.

The Warburgs banking family, influential in setting up the Federal Reserve, many consider them Rothschild agents. Max Warburg funded the Bolsheviks in Russia of 1917. Warburgs are Jews. For crying out loud, the Warburg mansion in New York, is today the Jewish Museum

Solomon Loeb. Founded the Kuhn, Loeb & Company, banking firm that funded Bolsheviks revolution. Major player in Wall street in the early-mid 20th century. later Lehman Brothers, Kuhn, Loeb Inc. He was also a jew.

Jacob Schiff, jew, self proclaimed Zionist, chairman of many banks, including Kuhn, Loeb & Co, National City Bank of New York, Equitable Life Assurance Society, Wells Fargo & Company, and the Union Pacific Railroad.

Marcus Goldman, founder of Goldman Sachs, one of the major players in banking today, also a Jew.

Lehman Brothers, founded by Henry Lehman, Emanuel Lehman, Mayer Lehman...all Jews. Lehman brothers ended up purchasing Kuhn, Loeb & Company (another Jewish bank) and became Lehman Brothers, Kuhn, Loeb Inc. The collapse of this bank hugely accelerated the financial collapse.

These guys created the Federal reserve we see today. So in truth, the banking sector is almost wholly a Jewish run business. The thing is I have no problem with Jews, I have a problem with Zionists. And much of these bankers were Zionists, no doubt. People do your research the Balfour Declaration calling for the creation of the state of Israel, was ADDRESSED to Baron Rothschild for heavens sake.

But the PROBLEM is, the feeble of mind constantly nitpick and henpeck me everytime I said "Jewish banking carterl" or "Zionist banking cartel", and conversation just wasn't proceeding, so I had to omit or exclude the Jew bit, so people could focus on my message....

 

I see.

How much time do you think you have, before things get as bad as I predict, or even as bad as you think they could go (for Americans?).

 

Again, I can only respect your knowledge, attention to detail, and deep insight into this.

Here is the thing.

Taking ownership of entire words, and inverting their meaning, or giving them new meaning, or even making them out of bounds entirely, it is what these control freaks do. It is part control freak/part propaganda.

Or they take truisms, or words that, when said in a simple manner, no one would disagree with..

'I stand for liberty of the American people'..

'We stand for freedom worldwide'

'We respect those that respect democracy'..

These are the typically hollow statements, that are prepared by psychologists and PR companies ,because they know how to use language, they have been trained in things like NLP, for example, it is what they do.

Take racial or ethnic supremacists.

Okay, what IS a racial or ethnic supremacist?

To me, it is someone who, essentially based on the fact that they believe themselves to belong to a specific blood line/genetic group/whatever, to be not just superior to those that are not them, but superior by virtue that they are born special or better, or chosen.

The local psych ward is full of them, but there are more on the outside, and sometimes they come together, and make an entire polical ideal out of it.

Naturally, from the minds of the mentally ill, the ideal will be defective, all the way through, like writing on a stick of rock.

Naturally, anything seeded or populated by this mental illness will also be defective, all the way through.

It becomes most dangerous if they rise into any authority, at all. Death and murder always tend to follow.

Because, logically, if you see your 'people' as 'superior', others are 'inferior', and now you are well on your way to dehumanising those that are not you.

As you keep making your way down, to the point where you now think like a 'demon', lest you see a child that you have been told 'is lesser than you AND a possible threat', you are now fully primed, to complete your arrival in hell(sic), by killing that child, and thinking nothing of it.

Tonight, there are a staggering number of non Jewish children, being held in Jew prisons.

This is illegal, but thanks for Jews in the US, the law means nothing....when it comes to Jewish criminals.

Were this Palestinians holding Jewish child prisoners, feck, there would be ten films and one hundred books, by the end of the week.

One can call it Zionism, but I have started to call it what it really is - Jewish ethnic supermacists.

They are what they are, and why should we not call them what they are, when we would 100% call them supremacists, if they were a traditional white supremacist group?

And while it is vogue, even encouraged, to parody and even hate on white supremacists, people's hands shake, and they break out in a sweat, if you even get them to call political Zionism what it really is....Jewish ethnic supremacism.

Why not rallly against that?

I have seen plenty of rallies against just about everything else, including against all other forms of fascism and supremacism.

Why so afraid of at least saying the words 'Jewish supermacism'.

Or 'Jewish extremists'.

People treat it like the elephant in the room.

Even when they do mention it, they couch it in BS terms, like NWO, etc.

Stop calling it that, it is Jewish extremism and Jewish supremacism.

Don't be afraid to say it, if that's what it is, which it is.