Obama gives himself control of all communication systems in America.

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  1. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    Why is the right not complaining about providing for "anything and everything" that does not provide for the common defense and general welfare? It seems that they are only moral enough to complain about social spending for real persons.
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    What do you mean, Daniel?
     
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    How many alleged conservatives are aggressively advocating for ending our wasteful, War on Drugs as they are for social spending that is of some benefit to real persons. It could be about simple morals and a McCarthy ear phrase in our pledge.
     
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    Obama gives himself control of all communication systems in America.


    As any good dictator would do.


    Obamabots are jumping ship by the boatloads, can you hear the splashing?

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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's end it then.
     
  6. danielpalos

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    Cool; what about corporate welfare as well; after that, then we can see if still need to end welfare for real persons who may experience some benefit from it.
     
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    Which party is going to end our War on Drugs, as we currently know it so I can vote along party lines. Which candidate is going to run on that platform in November?
     
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    Not Barry, he smokes it and loves it.
     
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    Why not be more fiscally responsible during time of lowering taxes and therefore, not real times of war. We could be securing the Bliss of bearing true witness to our own laws, and any liberty thereby derived, from those powers not delegated to our republican form of Government and retained by the People in their sovereign capacity as natural civic persons in our republic.
     
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    Balderdash. The order is all about restoring communications in the event of a national or regional ememrgency. Nothing we haven't been doing for the last 60 years.

    Not having such a system in place would be to give our enemies, whether al Qaeda or National Vanguard, a means by which to utterly cripple us and leave us unable to resist.

    Not having such a system in place could leave entire sections of the country with no means of coordinating relief efforts after the next Katrina-sized disaster.

    Do spend some time finding out how these things work.
     
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    does it matter, republicans just ignore the laws anyways, remember wireless wiretaps, Bush swore he was not using them... then later admitted he lied and was using them
     
  12. Jack Napier

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    I see.

    Well, the answer to that would be none, in the main.

    Why not?

    Several reasons.

    There is the small matter, that the powers that be don't really want a drug free or very small % of people that take drugs, anyway.

    Think about it.

    It gives them the chance to create another, almost shapeless enemy, and use that same sort of WE ARE TAKING CARE OF IT AND WE ARE TOUGH rhetoric aka The War On Drugs. They like to create such rhetoric, and the dumbed down mass, and the conservative nature, which tends to love authority, are all appeased. It is a charade. The Gov and the cops know it is a war that can never be 'won', least of all, not this way.

    It is just one entire circus, and a very costly one at that, to you, the taxpayer.

    All those police man hours, all the related costs, and a lot of the time they are not even getting a big haul of anything, in the bulk of cases, the offences are for small amounts, tiny, personal use. You bust that person, what good does it do? You bust his dealer, another will say, thanks for doing that.

    If driving down the numbers in society that routinely abuse drugs, prescription or otherwise, is the TRUE objective, then a waste of money charade does NOTHING to achieve it, in reality.

    But that is not really what the end game of our leaders, tends to be, hence why SO much is spent on this 'war'. And it will never ever end, or be 'won', their way.

    For them, it acts as a reason to exist in some cases, and justifies their depts, their jobs, their role as a politicians, or whatever.

    It is an easy political hobby horse, because someone stands up, and says 'I am gonna get tough on drugs', is going to appeal to the mindless drones.

    It is as empty as statement as someone standing up and saying 'I am just sooo against sex offenders'. Hollow.

    Rampant miuse of drugs, it destroys communities, it destroys families, and friendships, it stops the person from learning, or even care what is going on.

    You still think the powers that be would want there to be zero drug use?

    If every single American stopped taking drugs, the powers that be would likely flood the streets themselves, under new made up organisations.

    Don't forget, Daniel, your plutocracy also allowed for the privatisation of .... your prisons.

    No incentive to keep visitors low, is there, after all, a crime free nation, or one which not many go to prison..no use to the private contractor, is it?

    That's also why you will always have a high repeat offend rate.

    They do not want to drive it down, not really. If they did, they would copy the Bastoy Island model.

    Jack
     
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    It's not really 'Obama' though.

    It is the people behind Obama.

    Those that skulk in the shadows, mostly.

    Obama gets to decide if he wants to go doggy with Michelle, or spoons.

    And even then, maybe not.
     
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    End coprorate welfare you say?

    Next you will be coming out with common sense, like stop sending NEVER ending welfare to....the tiny wickle state...from afar.

    Oh no.

    That would never do.

    Best to keep hating your own people, call them all scroungers, and really really loathe them.

    Even though no one knows another circs, just hate on them.

    Much easier.

    For the coward.
     
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    Home less people already commit crimes just to get off the streets.

    Why on earth would a prison system like Bastoy Island work in America? I'll let you in on a hint, it wouldn't and it would cost tax payers billions of dollars. We also have 400 million Americans, compared to Norway's 5 million. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

    Would you let the Anders Behring Breivik live on Bastoy Island?
     
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    You see.

    They are above the same law that they expect you to obey.

    Why should we all do that?
     
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    The usual jumbled logic.

    I shall try though.

    I grow weary, but no one can say I have not tried.

    First.

    'Home less people already commit crimes just to get off the streets. '

    You are going to need to flesh that out. It is about as empty as my stating 'People with homes often steal things to furnish their home'. How many homeless people specifically commit crimes, with the sole intention of getting off the streets? How are you measuing that, and using what sources? And...has it perhaps occured to you that if they are so utterly desperate as to want a criminal record, just so they do not need sleep out in often v dangerous conditions, that maybe, just maybe, they should be homed, given a permanent address, and assistance, if they have a mental health problem, which many often do. How about that? In May of this year, my country made it LAW, that all people of this nation are entitled, as a RIGHT, to a permanent home. Further, one QUARTER of the homeless in the US, are vet's. They fought in this often terrible conflicts, for the benefit of rich men. Even if I disagree with the action they were obligated to serve in, I would truly look after such men, to their grave, it is disgusting that these men end up on the streets, let alone a quarter of the homeless.

    Why on earth would a prison system like Bastoy Island work in America?

    Let me throw that back at YOU. Why would it not? Tell us just how hours of study you have done, into that model, that makes you think you can just arrogantly sweep it aside, while offering NOTHING of your own.

    Finally...

    Would you let the Anders Behring Breivik live on Bastoy Island?

    Yes, you see, you did read the part in which I was speaking about repeat offenders? It tends to be for relatively small crimes.

    Not politically motivated mass murderers. They tend not to be let out again, to repeat offend, in the main.

    Albeit he has the max sentence of 21yrs.

    His crimes, by his own admission and the evidence, were politically motivated, against his own people, what a blight on a beautiful nation, he is.

    No prizes for guessing which brand of terrorism this swine represented?

    Zionism.

    But that aspect gets swept under the carpet.

    Had he been a Muslim....totally different.
     

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