OSU, TCU, Alabama are the top 3

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  1. Windigo

    Windigo Banned

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    Thats your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing tone. You act like a 3 point loss to one of the best teams in the nation is a horrible season.
     
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    Wow, you can tell tone from text? My, my, you are one great coach then. :roll:

    Next time you buy panties, get some that aren't so tight.
     
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    Yes I can tell your tone from text.

    "P. S. Enjoy the Fiesta Bowl."

    Like that is a bad thing.
     
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    Of course I'm aware, I've been posting here for many years now. I would prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt though, and instead of ignoring your posts I'd much rather advise you as to how your behavior is being perceived with the hopes you'll curb said behavior, which low and behold it appears you have in this particular post. Well done.

    First let me say that Elliot isn't the best player on the roster, he's just the best RB, but that's irrelevant. Now before I delve deeper into this paragraph I'd need to know if it's your opinion that he wasn't given the ball enough, or the plays where he touched the ball were ill conceived, or a combination of both.

    He averaged under 3 yards a carry in that game, and while I would have like to seen him get more carries, looking back at that game I'm not sure it would have won us that game with the way our O-line was handling MSUs linebackers. Our blocking on the edge, or lack there of, can certainly be attributed to the lack of WR depth. Chase Farris was consistently either blown off the line or beat on the edge, which resulted in OSU running the majority of their runs to the left, which MSU picked up on fairly quick. Boren, our Center, had a very poor game as well blocking their DT, who wreaked havoc during the course of that game. Now while I will say some of that play calling could have contributed to that loss and left me scratching my head, it was certainly not the only reason OSU lost.

    Again, I'm not sure how much you watch offensive line play during the game, as most people don't, but MSUs D-line created significant match up problems for Boren and Farris, which I do believe considerably attributed to OSUs struggles that evening and was a major factor in some of the questionable play calling we saw. There were certain plays that left us all scratching our heads, such as Barret taking multiple QB runs in a row...But in my opinion, play calling wasn't the only reason OSU lost that game.
     
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    I'm sure the Fiesta Bowl will be a great game. Gonna watch it myself. Two of the better teams in the country squaring off should be fun.

    However, it's ain't the playoffs and if you are a fan of OSU and watched your coach (*)(*)(*)(*) up and lose the game that cost your team a shot at defending their title, it's probably not near as entertaining.
     
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    What an f'ing tool. So you run the "Leech"? Is that as in Mike Leach, former Texas Tech coach, and now Washington St. coach?

    Just wondering, since you don't even know how to spell his name. You'd think if this big coaching fraternity you belong to names plays after these coaches, they'd at least spell the names right.

    Or is "Leech" a trick play? :roflol:

     
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    I do watch line play actually. I was an outside linebacker in college at Jacksonville State. So the match up of the heavys is of the most interest to me.

    If I remember correctly, Elliott got something like 12 carries and only two in the second half. And OSU ran the ball about 30 times. It was a close game, you have a dominate running back on a wet field at HOME against a team without it's starting QB and you only give him two carries in the second half? No, you play to your advantage and ram him down their throat. Wear the defense down. OSU was tied at the half and ahead after three quarters. Control the game, screw the QB keepers and sweeps. Wear the defense down and win ugly.

    Or get ready to play in the Fiesta Bowl.

    Urban had the best players and screwed it up.

    I did mistate the best player part, I was referring to the offense. Bosa is the best player on the team of course and will probably go #1 overall in the draft.
     
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    Kron, we both love the Buckeyes. I just don't think Urban is all that, and not going to debate this other clown anymore who thinks every coach in America is inferior while supposedly all copying Urban's master playbook. LOL.

    You do bring up a good point, and someone here is stealing my material. But Chase Farris showed he didn't belong at OT in the first couple games. And....they have young studs at that position they could replace him with. So why hasn't this staff pulled the plug on Farris? He's much more suited for guard anyway, if he's in there at all.



     
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    Bosa has tremendous athletic ability but is a punk. Trust me...some of the things he says in interviews are ridiculous.

    And he contributed to the loss to Sparty. 3 offsides penalties, including 1 that kept the critical MSU drive alive.

     
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    Maybe so, but he is pretty much a clone of JJ Watt. He will go within the first five picks in the draft and probably #1 over all. It will be either him or Robert Nkemdiche. No NFL GM is gonna pass up talent like those guys.

    Of course, if the team needs O-line more there are two great left tackles coming this year, so one of them might go first. But Bosa is a top five guy.

    And he is a kid, so hopefully he will mature at the next level.
     
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    We can second guess what plays would have worked, and if Elliot should have received more carries, but it's just speculation if that would have won us that game. There is no doubt in my mind Tim Beck is out of his league, but I'm not sure Urban should have completely taken over Becks job during the late stages of that game.

    Overall, I believe Ohio State has a little more potential NFL talent, but as you know from playing OLB the problems that can be created for a offense and coaching staff when your center and right tackle are being dominated, and sure enough the were getting wrecked, so I think it's a little unfair to completely put that all on Urban.
     
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    Leach is a modified 4 vets with 1 locked seem and 3 receivers running option routes that results in a total of 16 possible plays depending on coverage. Really you shouldn't be in this argument you are a fan. You dont know the first thing about the actual game.
     
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    I have no idea why Farris was starting this year. I just assumed he was the best option and we were screwed for the year at right tackle. He's had a awful year and it's been frustrating watching him play.
     
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    Maybe so, I could only see it from the vantage point of my television. The guys in the box had a better view of course.

    And you are right about the linemen and the effects. Linebackers are like half backs and QB's, they depend on the line in front of them. Unless you have your hand in the dirt, you need someone to keep those guys off you. If the offensive line can't keep the second level honest, it makes for a long day.

    Still, I'm would have worked to wear down the defense. OSU had control until the fourth quarter. If they had ran more in the third and pounded the MSU defense, they probably would have won.
     
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    Ask the great Bill Belichick what happens when your interior line is being dominated. There is very little you can do schematically.
     
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    16 possible plays depending on coverage, huh? Like Leach ran at TT with Graham Harrell at QB and Michael Crabtree at WR? What level do you coach at? I don't believe you've ever shared that little nugget with us. :disbelief:

     
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    It's a major problem. I'll give MSU a bunch of credit, that D line played lights out.

    I never played on the line but I've been on teams with bad ones and it can be so frustrating when your interior line is losing every battle.
     
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    What is the huh? You have 4 receivers the two outside receivers are on fade/comeback options, 1 inside receiver is on a locked seem, and the other is on a seem, dig, post option. That is 16 different ways the play can develop depending on how the receivers run their options based on coverage.

    If you didn't get that State Championships means high school you are hopeless.
     
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    Its more than a major problem. The three un-wise men used Belichick as the example of a truly great coach because of his ability to make adjustments but what could he do when his interior line got the crap kicked out of it by the Giants, twice? Nothing.
     
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    Wow.....a high school football coach, getting all riled up and blowing smoke about football strategy at anonymous posters, on a political site no less.

    I pity the kids who have to deal with an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) like you.

     
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    Remember the Western Michigan game (a lousy MAC team) early in Sept, well before conference play began. Farris got beat multiple times, causing Cardale to rush throws or take off running. Also gave up a sack or two. Again, getting beat by Western Michigan defenders.

    They should have pulled the plug back then. They have 2 young studs....Jamarco Jones and Isaiah Prince, both built for OT. Again, Farris is more a run blocking guard. I don't get that one at all, and it's hurt OSU all season.

     
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    Kids love me. You think you can win if you are an ass.
     
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    But would they respect you if they knew how much you sniff Urban Meyer's jock? :roflol: :roflol:

     
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    If they aren't starting there is a reason. Just because someone is built for tackle doesn't make them a tackle.
     
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    Yep, it's been a brutal season for that young man. I swear it was like he was in a constant state of confusion.

    Prince is going to be a beast, and he'll certainly be playing in 2016. The Buckeyes will certainly look a bit different next year, but I'm excited about its potential. McMillan has the potential to be the best LB in the country.
     

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