I used to work part-time as a gym teacher years ago when paddling was the norm and parents applauded it. I never had to paddle any students that came to my class, but one day this teacher who had a broken wrist and needed to discipline this kid who was shooting spit balls and groping the girls in class that sat next to him. So I took up the task, WOP! WOP!...tears started flowing like Niagra Falls on this kid, who at the time, was talking mess to the teacher as we decided what to do. haha...I can still see his face as he cried "OUCHY! THAT HURT!"...LOL..Afterwards the teacher thanked me and took the child to the office to call his parents. the following week the boy was in class getting his work done, being nice and acting like a model citizen..and before I knew it I had teachers from all over the school asking me from time to time to come by and paddle a student. LOL..I thought it was akward at first but come to realize it was good therapy not only for me, but for the kids. Because one thing I learned in the school system is that kids HATE being embarrased over everything. They would rather get suspended than get paddled,because those hot buns stay hot for a while after and they can't deny it and their friends eat it up with laughter. So I say, paddling should be reinstituted, what say you?
I wouldn't paddle my own child, so of course I find it completely inappropriate for my child's school or anyone else to do so.
I will admit that I did some hand smacking when my son was a toddler, but since he is at an age of reason (mostly at least) I don't anymore. Most situations are just discussed and if punishment is needed it is done by taking away privileges. I made this decision for my family when my son was three, he was given the option of holding his hand out to be smacked or going to be bed early, when presented with the two he asked if the hand smacking was going to hurt bad and I said absolutely, he choose getting his hand smacked. Whats the point if he didn't even see it as a worse punishment then privileges being taken away. Has been very effective thus far especially taking away weekend use of the tv or xbox. Even if I did still spank my son I would not be ok with the school doing it. I find that completely unacceptable. If the school is having trouble with my son, bring me into the picture and it will be handled.
I will admit that I did some hand smacking when my son was a toddler, but since he is at an age of reason (mostly at least) I don't anymore. Most situations are just discussed and if punishment is needed it is done by taking away privileges. I made this decision for my family when my son was three, he was given the option of holding his hand out to be smacked or going to be bed early, when presented with the two he asked if the hand smacking was going to hurt bad and I said absolutely, he choose getting his hand smacked. Whats the point if he didn't even see it as a worse punishment then privileges being taken away. Has been very effective thus far especially taking away weekend use of the tv or xbox. Even if I did still spank my son I would not be ok with the school doing it. I find that completely unacceptable. If the school is having trouble with my son, bring me into the picture and it will be handled.
I see. at a small age like that, assuming he's 3-5yers old that would work. but what about when He's 10? the age when they think they know more than you? Do you think taking priviledges away is gonna work? I don't.
Maybe if someone had knocked some sense into some people when they were rugrats the prisons wouldn't be overflowing now. Sooner or later they pay the price for having stupid parents.
So you think that the people in prison were not beaten by their parents? Any parent who would beat their child, or beat another persons child should be jailed, and I swear, if I have kids and someone dares to raise a hand to my kid, they'll regret it.
I agree with you Makedde, and when I have kids they are never going to fear violence from me. No adult ever raised a hand to me when I was a child, and my school was forbidden by law to employ corporal punishment. I don't think I am uncontrollable because of that, and neither will my kids be.
Simply live and share your life in a way that makes your children care and respect you so much they would want to die before disappointing you. Been there and done this with older "troubled" children the parents "couldn't handle" despite LOTS of punishment. Once I learned about respect and honorable relationships, neither children nor pets do I EVER hit or spank. Its painful to hear people "discipline" or "punish" in these ways. None of my loved ones ever cringe if I were to raise my hand to them.
I think you want to raise barbarians who don't know how to control themselves because they never suffer any meaningful consequences. As it says in Proverbs 23:13-14 = Don’t withhold instruction from children; if you strike them with a rod, they won’t die. Strike them with a rod, and you will save their lives from the grave. If that was true thousands of years ago it's still true today because human nature hasn't changed. We see the sad effects of your philosophy everyday in kids who run wild because their parents are wimps and want to be their best friends.
What state are you in?? I had a gym teacher paddle a little savage for me one day and he broke the paddle. Actually he didn't hit the kid that hard. I think the paddle was defective. As for substitute teachers: They should be allowed to come armed.
I believe in corporate punishment but in this day and age it isn't done right. I can see a teacher not using it as a tool but as anger venting. My son's principal took my son ---who had a rep for having behavior issues---into the office to look at the paddle hanging on the wall. He informed my son that he no longer uses it---but he calls the parents and lets them use it.
For real? I better go home right away and beat the crap out of my kid. There are other ways to teach self-discipline than with the back of your hand, one is by example. My son respects and loves me, his drive to please me is there without the fear of me hitting him (how long would that last anyway, he is almost to my shoulder at eight). I'm not claiming to be a better parent because of this, my kid does screw up sometimes and so do I. I don't have a problem with other parents spanking their children as long as it is not abusive. I do not have their child so I do not pretend to know what is best for them. Allowing teachers or school administration to hit your kid is bad parenting in my opinion. Your child's school should further their knowledge in academics like math and science. Teaching a child what type of person to be (i.e. kind, independent, respectful) is the job of the parents.
Take all their power to teach away and you will have frustrated teachers wanting to vent thru the paddle. but Give them all the tools they need to teach (taking up iphones, sending kids out the classroom to the office when they disrupt the class, paddling, etc...) and you'll have a healthy lerning atmosphere for the rest of the kids.
If parents learned how to parent and would raise their kids AT HOME, they would have well-mannered kids out in public and at school. no way around that fact.
True, but another key factor is being actively involved in your child's school life. Some kids will test limits with every authority figure initially. They can be little angels at home and turn into disrespectful delinquents at school because there might be a disconnect or no connect btwn parent and teacher. Knowing that your parents talk to your teachers hence poor behavior in school will lead to having to deal with Mom and/ or Dad at home is also very important.
So what about other children beating on your child? What gives them the right to do that without reprocussion? There is absolutely no deterrent anymore to keep the bullies from beating up other kids. I was in school when corporal punishment was put through the wringer in America. Teachers stopped paddling and some kids would beat the hell out of another kid just to get a 3 day suspension (vacation). So what would you propose to deter things like that? I view problems like this as a direct result of a lack of discipline. Used to, if they weren't getting discipline at home, at least they were getting it at school. Now no one cares anymore and we are raising a generation of children that are selfish and cruel. Good job America.