Paddling unruly kids is good therapy

I personally grew up in a household where if I got out of line with any adult especially in my family they didn't have to ask my parents to disipline me, hell I'd get it twice one from the adult I got out of line with and then from my parents for someone having to put me in my place. In society today we have people trying to be friends with thier kids instead of being parents, and when someone else trys to correct their bad ass kids especially in school they want to put up a lawsuit. I think that paddling should be manditory in every school in the nation ,because these kids know that nothing can be done to them so they do what they want without any action.

 

Here's when the parent should take the kid home and whip their butts. this will nip that behavior in the bud, and the parents should reinforce the whipping to the child to let them know that if they do it again, they get whipped again. that's good parenting.

 

same with me...hahaha...

If I got paddled at school, my ol' man would whip my butt again when I got home AND I got put on punishment for a month.

my ol' man didn't play that mess.

 

Seems fair. Schools should simply contact parents when children misbehave. The parent should then have one hour to come to the school and discipline the child. If this discipline fails three times or if the parent misses the one-hour deadline three times, the child is ejected from the school for the rest of the year and the parent has to pay to send the child to a school that will provide discipline.

Don't let the public school discipline your children, but the school shouldn't let your unruly child distract the rest of the class.

 

In most cases the parent will try to sue the school for discrimination to their child. then what?

 

There's a major difference between American school kkids and others around the world. American kids don't value education. For the most part they and their parents are basically ignorant. That's why they do so badly in school.

You can bet that if Afghan and Haitian kids had the opportunity to attend American style schools that they wouldn't waste a second by being stupid and disruptive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/08/south_asia_afghan_school_life/html/1.stm

http://panafricannews.blogspot.com/2010/04/haiti-schools-reopen-for-first-time.html

 

Someting needs to be done. the children are out of control.

 

The level of anger and fear being displayed by some of the members here is really kind of disturbing.

The ignorance however is much worse.

Most physical discipline makes children anxious and aggressive. Its teaching through fear and only those who forgive God for practicing such behavior consider it a virtue.

The correlation between faith based beliefs and support for corporal punishment is not surprising though.

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

 

Corporal punishment should not be the go-to-solve -it-all.... but it shouldnt be eliminated from the otions list. Some kids need a beating sometimes

 

No one should ever beat a kid, that's abuse and hopefully you didn't mean it like that. You think that a school should have the right to hit a child? I can recall several (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) teachers I had growing up that I am thankful were never allowed that power cause they most certainly would have abused it.

 

Every person who was worth their salt and got respect in the world, had a spanking once in their lives.

All the brats who didn't are in prison or dead now.

 

I don't recall ever getting a spanking. I was a naturally good kid and have never been in trouble. However, some people could have definitely benefited from some spankings.

 

There are times when I have to assume your deceiving eveyone and everything you say is actually a joke.

 

LOL, I'm one of the 'brats' who didn't. I can assure you that I am very much alive, have never been in trouble with the law (except for one speeding fine), and I finished high school last year with A levels good enough to get me a place at the most prestigious university here. At 18, I am not sure that I get much respect at this stage of my life, nor would I reasonably expect that - I have done nothing to warrant it. But when I embark upon my career in a horsehair wig, and possibly take silk, I suspect there will be a modicum of professional respect.

The entire concept of beating children is a barbarous and uncivilised one. Whatever anyone may think of me, I am the better for not having been so abused, and when I have children, they will never fear my raised hand.

 

OP post excerpts:

I say someone sounds like a sadist who gets off on hurting and humiliating children and should NEVER be around children in ANY unsupervised situation.

 

What I find amusing is the parents who are against it are usually the ones whose kids are the worst. Typically, they think the number three is a magic number that a child hopes mommy won't reach when she starts counting. How absurd. There are more unruly kids in this world these days and I believe the lack of discipline is the number one reason.

Then there are those like the ones who participated in this thread who take the OP and turn it into a "beating". I couldn't find the word "beating" in the OP. Do they simply not know the difference?

 

These are the words of the OP =

I am one of those who interpreted the word 'paddling' as 'spanking' (aka beating). I do not believe the OP was referring to propelling a canoe by means of oars, or splashing around in a shallow pool. Spanking consists of repeatedly striking a (usually small) child on the buttocks - there is no escaping the reality that it is a beating inflicted by a (usually) much larger creature upon a considerably smaller one. It is assault and battery. It also has unfortunate and unhealthy psycho-sexual connotations.

I will see your anecdotal claim that children who are not beaten are the worst behaved, and raise you an equally anecdotal 'I was never beaten, nor were most of my contemporaries'. I have no criminal record, neither have they. I am capable of debating this and other matters sensibly with people older than myself, and so are they. I do not believe my situation, nor that of my friends, would have been improved had we been beaten as children.

So we are both arguing from purely subjective positions, and regarding anecdotal evidence as proof. When you have empirical evidence that beating children improves their character, intelligence, and attitudes to society, please introduce it in order that we may discuss this more thoroughly.

 

When my kids misbehaved, I always just calmly took them out for a car ride and when we got home, their behavior was immediately improved.

 

If you 'paddle' any child, whether its your own child or not, you should be arrested and face criminal charges.

 

When they seriously misbehave just have them pick out their casket or urn and cemetery. Then have them write their obituary. When they ask "What's up with that?" tell them that since you can't paddle them to correct their behavior you might as well plan for their untimely death.

 

A beating is what Zimmerman received before he shot the hooded thug. A paddle on the buttocks of a child is discipline. Something the new generation know nothing of. The Occupy fools are enough evidence alone.

 

May I take that non-sequitur as an admission that you have no empirical evidence that beating children is an effective method of improving their character, comprehension, and abilities? OK - much as I expected, and thanks for your input.

 

You have my total agreement.

But be prepared to hear from the sociological dinosaurs lurking here that people such as you and I are not old enough to give a valid opinion on anything. Y'know, a bit like those disadvantaged 'kids' who haven't experienced repeated character-building 'paddling'.

 

And when the child whose never beeen disciplined in their lives gets their heads blown off for trying to rob somebody's house, you can psychotically claim at the funeral "he was a good kid"???

 

Spanking builds character in kids. they don't want it because it hurts so they act like they have some home training eventhough they really haven't. when they feel like their buns could get warmed up for disobedience, they tend to straighten up.

and I don't beleive your little tale about not ever geting a spanking, if you didn't get one, you got some form of it, from your parents grabbing your arm, to look at me grab that 99% of moms do, etc...something.

You're not gonna sit there and lie and claim you've only had verbal discipline all your life. it's just not possible. if that's the case you should write a book about it and cash in on your parents' technique they used for you.