Part 13 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    To us Christians it is not just any old story but it's an amazing true story revealed to us by Almighty God Himself!

    Well we Christians believe it was feasible back during the days of Noah but it's not feasible anymore since God changed the normal lifespan of humans down to a 120 years or so.

    True story of the first two humans God created. SETTLED.

    Noah's Ark is a true story, the Sumerian epic is a close copy of Noah's story. SETTLED

    When it comes to God, nothing is impossible.

    Ok, what chapter do you want to discuss now since everything here is SETTLED?
     
  2. Mitt Ryan

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    Hey Fox, I'll get to your incoherent question later...lol so I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you, it's just that I have so many other questions and comments I still have to respond to. I'm on Part 5 right now half-way done. But sometimes I'm flexible and so I just might answer your question sooner than later.
     
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    Ya, it IS incoherent when paraphrasing Wanren....but I'm sure you'll fly eagerly to his defense...;)
     
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    Let's take a look at your last paragraph above.

    You posted and I quote..."I have long time ago learn how to come to terms with facts, realities and truth"...end quote WanRen.

    Well....if that is a fact why is this the 3rd time I have had to re-post this question below?????

    Do you believe that Moses parted the Red Sea or do you believe Moses CROSSED the REED SEA?

    I ask you this to demonstrate how over the Centuries many mistranslations of Stone Tablets and Biblical Text have created MISTRUTHS and FANTASY to be incorporated into the ever evolving and ever changing King James Bible.

    The words Yam Suph (Hebrew: יַם-סוּף) is a phrase which occurs about 23 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament)....and Yam Suph is CARVED 23 TIMES INTO THE STONE HEBREW TABLETS that were IMPROPERLY TRANSLATED.

    Yam Suph means.....REED SEA....a marshy tidal area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea and the Stone Tablets that the Hebrews carved the STORY OF EXODUS....NEVER STATE MOSES PARTED THE RED SEA!!!!

    Moses CROSSED the REED SEA....a Marshy Tidal area that is about 10 feet deep at high tide and riddled with vegetation.

    So....this shows us that the KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE IS WRONG!!!

    Tell me....what do you believe now?

    AboveAlpha..p.s...to other members...this is the 3rd time I have posted this question on this topic alone to WanRen.
     
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    There is no such thing as '100% inerrant literal word of God', can't you understand that. It's either errant or inerrant. And I believe you claimed it inerrant, did you not?

    Now you're the one who is 'not telling the truth'. Your interpretation of scripture is often lacking and you've ignored my refutations of your interpretations for some time. On top of that 'your' explanations are often not yours but gathered and copied from the internet. Still, if it makes you feel good so be it. Your arrogance is beyond belief.
     
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    Sorry,... but Rev. Fred Phelps, or Rev. Jim Jones, or Rev Ted Haggard, or Rev. David Koresh all have the correct interpretation and not you... Just Ask them. And their claim to validity is just as valid as yours.


    No that is you and Rev. Fred Phelps, or Rev. Jim Jones, Or Rev. David Coresh, or Rev. Ted Haggard. That misinterpret this silly book. The bible is an inkblot and you see what you want to see... and this tells us way more about you than it does the book!
     
  7. Mitt Ryan

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    Well there are advantages as well as disadvantages of all these different denominations. Despite that each denomination has its own distinctive beliefs or practices, they are all commonly considered branches of the same religion in which they agree on such fundamentals as the Holy Bible, the Trinity, and the teachings of the Nicene Creed.

    As Christians there are certain basic doctrines that we must believe, but beyond that there is latitude on how we can serve and worship.
     
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    You know if those people who were so adamant about defending their belief that the current King James Bible is WORD FOR WORD inspired by GOD HIMSELF dictated FACTS....if those people could either take the time to check on the Internet or perhaps be GIVEN A COPY OF EVERY SINGLE VERSION OF THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS AND THEN COMPARE THEM TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IN THE LATEST KING JAMES BIBLE.....I think their HEADS would explode in surprise.

    Never mind even giving them every single copy version of the Bible just give them every single printed version of JUST THE KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE...and....their heads would STILL pop like a Corn Kernel on a HOT PAN!!! LOL!!!

    I have a few versions of the King James Bible at my home and when I look at a version printed in the 2000's vs. one printed in the 1940's....there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE in many of the words used in either King James Biblical version.

    Fact is there is a difference of words used as time passes and this is done to make the Bible easier to understand for more Modern versions of various Languages be those English, German, Spanish...etc.

    THAT....is why I get a GOOD LAUGH out of Zealots who get all testy when I or anyone else quotes something out of the Bible and because I might use one word different than the word such a person has in THEIR Bible or version of it....they start screaming...."YOU CANNOT SAY JESUS SAID THAT IF YOU ARE USING A WRONG WORD!!!"

    Well....let me tell everyone how STUPID such a condemnation of me is in the case of the New Testament....it existed in the Bible for the first time in LATIN....the language of Rome.

    Thus there are many words in Latin that translate many different ways in all the multitudes of language the Bible has been translated to and as well the New Testament was CREATED by the Biblical Canon using Books and Gospels written in Hebrew, Greek, Latin..etc....and these WERE ALL LOST AND COPIES WERE MADE WHEN THE ROMANS DESTROYED THEM....thus we are in reality not sure exactly what was the original words.

    We are effectively reading a copy of a copy of a copy times 100 of English Language Bible copied from copies of copies of copies of copies..etc....of Latin Bibles CREATED from using ancient texts that are copies of copies of copies...etc....written from the MEMORIES of people who stored them and rewrote them after they were destroyed by Rome as NOT ONE EXISTING ORIGINAL BIBLICAL GOSPEL TEXT EXISTS!!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Steady on. I was just thinking of starting my own thread on here. Part 1. How to study and interpret the Bible correctly. :clapping:
    I was going to start at Genesis with the Epic of Gilgamesh and Sumerian creation legend then ....... erm....Ah well. Perhaps not. It's past my bedtime.
    I've a busy day tomorrow explaining to a group of people how Moses built an ARK for the Israelites to cross the Jordan when it was in flood - or something like that. :wink: :sleeping:
     
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    Ignored, this post was from APRIL 2013! Please keep up with your own thread please.
     
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    By the way Mitt. If god cut our lifespan to 120 years you'd better tell the Psalmist. He thinks it's 3 score years and 10, and if we're lucky an extra 10 thrown in. Psalm 90
     
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    So it appears you also have problems interpreting what you read...lol

    I know there is no such thing as the "100% inerrant literal word of God" That is what your brother dairyair had accused me of saying, which is not true.

    I had asked him to prove that I said that and he couldn't prove it with a quote of mine, it's because I have never said that.

    Are you related to dairyair somehow, a distant cousin or something?...lol you misinterpret just like him...lol
     
  13. Mitt Ryan

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    I don't care if you ignore it but I'm certainly not going to ignore any questions, comments from whoever has made them on my threads. I will respond to them if they are coherent enough.

    In these 13 threads there have been thousands upon thousands of questions and comments and for the most part I'm responding to all of them that's why I'm behind. Tough you don't like it, just don't come here if you don't like it...that's a simple solution.

    Always remember these are my threads that I originated from the get go. Soon #14 will come up.
     
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    Yes there are thousands of questions. Most of them asking you to answer the original question. Your non answering is a form of trolling under the guise of you creating threads to answer questions.
    I look at all people who quote me. If you don't like my responses then don't quote me from a year ago. To put it in perspective, the Earth has made an entire orbit around the sun since I posted some of the things you quoted me on. Children have been born and then had their first birthday party. People have become pregnant and carried their babies to term in the time you take to answer "Simple" questions. You act like you are simply answering questions but in reality you respond to my old posts to irritate me. You do this because I asked you to stop yet you keep doing it. How unbelievably hypocritical of you to do something to another fellow human being after they asked you nicely to not do it. Hey at least you didn't call me names this time! Its a start.
    P.S. How were you able to respond to my last post so quickly if you are still caught up in questions from a year ago?
    Answer: You cherry picked an old one on purpose to irritate me. As I previously stated ...have at it. The more you do things like this the more I expose you and the more other readers see what religious people really are like when the sunday goto meeting clothes are off.
    Also, shouldn't your sentence read? I'm certainly not going to ignore any questions.......(unless they are still under a year old)
     
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    Didn't Jesus teach us we are all brothers Mitt? Was he wrong or do you need to revise your comment?
     
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    This is what Im saying about the form of trolling. If you spent half as much time answering instead of insulting you would be in the same thread as the rest of us right now.
     
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    I'm not misinterpreting anything. I'm pointing out that you have said that the Bible is inerrant. That means it is incapable of being wrong - containing no errors. There's no distinction between the 2. 100% INERRANT AND SIMPLY INERRANT are the same. That makes it impossible for there to be any room for interpretation of phrases, figures of speech etc. or words to that effect you have said. For it to be inerrant, even to the Christian, everything must be CLEARLY true, and that isn't the Bible.

    By the way, you did use that phrase when you protested that the Bible was inerrant but not 100% inerrant because of figures of speech etc.
     
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    No, it's just you again misinterpreting what you read...what else is new...eh?...lol

    Noah did help to repopulate the earth again, but not in the way you thought.

    Didn't he build the ark to save his sons and their wives and 2 of every animal?...of course he did and so that's the way he helped and that is what my friend WR meant, but no because of your interpretation issues you took it to mean that WR was saying that Noah was having more children of his own.

    The Bible does not say Noah had other children besides his 3 sons, don't you think WR already knew that?
     
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    That's right the Bible is inerrant, it is the infallible Word of God.

    dairyair was accusing me of saying that everything you read in the Bible, you are to take it literally, but that is not what I said.

    To say the Bible is inerrant is not to say that everything you read is to be taken literally, for there are proverbial forms of speech, there are metaphors, but still the messages they are expressing are truths and that is why the Bible is inerrant, it has no errors but again not everything is to be taken literally.
     
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    Then how could you possibly have the audacity to make a silly claim that YOU have the correct interpretation of this silly book. Your arrogance is superseded only by your ignorance.

    Rev. Jim Jones, Rev. Fred Phelps, Rev. David Koresh, Rev. Ted Haggard have the exact amount of credibility in their interpretation as you. You are not special... You are exactly like these christians ... no better ... no worse.
     
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    Looks like your buddy Worng Ren has rubbed off on you.

    - - - Updated - - -

    As this one has been so much fun I'm looking forward to it... This is better than the humor section!
     
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    What metaphor was used describing the hardening of Pharaoh's heart?
     
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    It said a lot about those kind of crazy people and one word NUTS. That is why man kept breaking the rules and they kept contradicting themselves.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Nope you guess wrong, God never dies.
     
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    I am going to keep on posting this until you answer.

    You posted and I quote..."I have long time ago learn how to come to terms with facts, realities and truth"...end quote WanRen.

    Well....if that is a fact why is this the 3rd time I have had to re-post this question below?????

    Do you believe that Moses parted the Red Sea or do you believe Moses CROSSED the REED SEA?

    I ask you this to demonstrate how over the Centuries many mistranslations of Stone Tablets and Biblical Text have created MISTRUTHS and FANTASY to be incorporated into the ever evolving and ever changing King James Bible.

    The words Yam Suph (Hebrew: יַם-סוּף) is a phrase which occurs about 23 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament)....and Yam Suph is CARVED 23 TIMES INTO THE STONE HEBREW TABLETS that were IMPROPERLY TRANSLATED.

    Yam Suph means.....REED SEA....a marshy tidal area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea and the Stone Tablets that the Hebrews carved the STORY OF EXODUS....NEVER STATE MOSES PARTED THE RED SEA!!!!

    Moses CROSSED the REED SEA....a Marshy Tidal area that is about 10 feet deep at high tide and riddled with vegetation.

    So....this shows us that the KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE IS WRONG!!!

    Tell me....what do you believe now?

    AboveAlpha..p.s...to other members...this is the 4th time I have posted this question on this topic alone to WanRen.
     
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    But does on your next post....LOL!
     
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