Part 13 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

I am assuming you are answering these questions?
Now my turn:
1. Where does it say in Genesis that God killed innocent babies or fetuses?
2. Didn't God said clearly in Genesis that the people were wicked and evil? Yes or no
3. If answer is no please provide quote in Genesis to support your no God did not killed wicked and evil people.

You are assuming that there are innocent babies if you are assuming there are innocent babies even though the Bible clearly did mention anything about any innocent babies only wicked and evil man than your answer is wrong. Giving you the benefit of the doubt if you can assume there are innocent babies then you can understand why there are no innocent babies and why God said "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually".was because man have been committing the most atrocious crimes and that is cannibalism eating their own starting with the babies.

You answer yes God killed innocent babies? so where is the Biblical verse to support your answer? Base on your yes answer without any substantial Biblical evidence we can then conclude you are making things up.

So answer then, did God killed innocent babies base on Genesis 6? I don't have to misrepresent your statement you are misrepresenting yourself and your position and claim is all the same with the rest of atheist they all claim I misrepresent their words because of my lack of understanding when clearly all of you have been misrepresenting the Bible and up to now none of you dare to answer with atheist honesty where in the Bible in Genesis 6 said God killed innocent babies? I will help you all to answer with my answer you can all accuse me of misrepresenting you all the answer is NO GENESIS 6 NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT GOD KILLING INNOCENT BABIES ONLY WICKED AND EVIL MAN. There is not that difficult to answer correctly and honestly.

What is your interpretation of wicked and evil people today? You seem to have difficulty in knowing what it is so share please.

Nope I do not believe all the world who do not accept Jesus are 'wicked and evil' because they are condemned to hell.
So me you care? Do you care that God killed those wicked and evil people or not or do you prefer God leave them alone?

Nature or God the bottom line is a flood as massive as the Noah's flood did occurred then?

Nope nothing the CC new updated teaching confuses me in fact this show that the CC is open to truth and that is why the CC spend lots of time in science and medicine research and in helping the poor and destitute.

 

Where does it say He DIDN'T?

And we have clear verses in Samuel and Isaiah where God ENDORSES or even ORDERS the killing of children. So why should we think He'd be squeamish about doing it Himself in Genesis?

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Again, ANOTHER admission by Mitt....that not all answers are available from the Bible....but that's his claim on other questions or even this continueing dialogue on "Tough Questions".

 

Most of your post is hilarious. It shows you haven't read or considered my post.

COULD ANY POSTER OUT THERE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE BLUE POST OF WARREN. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT. I have qualifications in the English language but this beats me.

The verse you require 6:7 . God destroyed 'man'. Surely even you can understand that this is talking about men, women and children. If you're supposed to be a bible student you should know this standard practise in this context.
If he only killed the men what happened to the women. Were they were sent to Mars?



If you think I have difficulty understanding 'wicked and evil' how can I share something I don't UNDERSTAND. Your logic is abysmal. I notice you didn't answer my original question.

Should God have killed the 'wicked and evil' men? What were they doing to be 'wicked and evil'? We are not told. It would be illogical to base my judgement on unsubstantiated, circumstantial and dubious documentation (Bible).

Noahs flood as described in the Bible did not happen. Local flooding quite possible. The need for an ark? Unnecessary. Perhaps a motor launch would have been useful - but we're not told one was available.

 

Between Samuel, Isaiah, Ezekial, Kings...all the books that I or Giftedone or others have cited where God kills or orders the killing or supports the killing of CHILDREN...


I don't get where WanRen is so dubious that He would kill children in the Flood?

Or did God get MORE infanticidal AFTER the Flood???

 

The arrival of Jacob’s family in Egypt (under Joseph’s sponsorship) provides a good reference point for calculating the relative chronology for Amram, Jochebed, and Moses. The years before descent into Egypt are designated as “BD,” and the years post descent into Egypt as “PD.”1 When it is not possible to precisely calculate a person’s age, a range is calculated, assuming a man fathers a child no earlier than age 15 (puberty at age 14), and no later than on his deathbed (even though in the case of Kohath fathering Amram, this seems ridiculous).

Post descent and before descent into egypt.

 

spec·u·late verb \ˈspe-kyə-ˌlāt\
: to think about something and make guesses about it : to form ideas or theories about something usually when there are many things not known about it

: to invest money in ways that could produce a large profit but that also involve a lot of risk
spec·u·lat·edspec·u·lat·ing

Full Definition of SPECULATE

intransitive verb
1
a : to meditate on or ponder a subject : reflect
b : to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively
2
: to assume a business risk in hope of gain; especially : to buy or sell in expectation of profiting from market fluctuations
transitive verb
1
: to take to be true on the basis of insufficient evidence : theorize
2
: to be curious or doubtful about : wonder <speculates whether it will rain all vacation>
— spec·u·la·tor noun

For just stating you don't like to speculate, you sure do a lot of it.
Here let me explain, you do that a lot, that is speculation, interpretation. To believe the bible is 100% inerrant word means one MUST speculate many things.
For even you told me, paraphrase, 'god left out many details'.

 

But at least they don't go hungry. They get a new meal every nine months or so. Unless they have twins or more.

 

You know, you'd THINK that a "Supreme Being"....could write a better book?!?!?

 

Um, I think he's corrected you on more than one occasion, he never said spank. That you keep repeating this lie tells a great deal about what people should regard your posts as. Lies.
Not something a christian should be doing on purpose.

 

You'd think. I have said several times. We need V2 of the bible. 2000 yrs is toooo long a time frame for those words to have meaning today.
Maybe we have V2 in the book of mormons. Many christians reject mormons a christians, just like they were 2000 yrs ago.

 

Notice that Joseph Smith saw the flaws in the Bible...and made God "nicer". But then again, he was still a "creature of his time", with his problem with Native Americans and made them "dirty Injuns" who killed off the 'REAL owners of America'

 

Surely Joseph Smith saw flaws in the Bible according to his interpretation. Another person might disagree with him.
If you take the Tanakh literally then there are flaws. If, however, you accept it as a nations story and their thoughts as to how their god dealt with them, we don't need to change anything. It is Jewish theology.
That's where we have this idea that the god of the Tanakh is different in attitude to the god of the NT. In their minds the god of the Tanakh was a just god. He punished them for wrong doing and blessed them when they were faithful to him. Christianity sees god as loving, punishing only when men deliberately defy him. Loving enough to give part of himself - Jesus.

Where's the pulpit, I'll give you a sermon .... er ....perhaps not

 

Does God know if I believe in him?
Does God know if I believe in him tomorrow?
Does God know if I believe in him when I die?

Can I change what God knows about my belief?

 

Genesis 6: 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

No innocent babies clearly. So now your turn where does it say He did?

Samuel and Isaiah are different verses it is not Genesis 6 we will go there after we are done with Genesis 6. So would you like to discuss about Samuel and Isaiah or not? If you do then let us finish Genesis 6 first.

The only tough questions that are not being answered and ignored are from atheist or agnostics like you that is why we are still stuck at Genesis 6 because you can't answer simple not tough question about the issue that you yourself and others brought up did God kill innocent babies in Genesis and if so where doe sit said so in Genesis?

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Yes, yes, yes and yes.

 

You are stuck on Genesis 6 because you have come up with the absurd theory that no babies were killed in the flood because they were all eaten by their parents and they were scooping fetuses from the wombs of pregnant women, all of which there is ZERO evidence of and is a desperate and pathetic thesis to avoid the obvious truth that innnocent infants and children were wiped out if you believe this silly myth of the flood, of which there is also no evidence of.
If you have to make really insane stories to protect your god's reputation, you are barking up the wrong theological tree.

 

In our finite human perspective everything starts somewhere but when it comes to God that cannot be true. It will be self-contradictory to say God must have a start because then we will be denying that there exists a greatest possible being.

If we insist He had a start, then the question arises, who created God? And if God was created, then how could He be God? Wouldn't it be the one who created God? But then the question arises again, well who created the being who created God? It goes on and on into an endless regress which never explains who is really God.

Therefore God cannot have a start and still be God, it is contradicting, thus God is eternal, He is everlasting, He has no beginning, He has no end and that is the definition of a greatest possible being existing...simply put He just exists.

 

Psalms ch.137 vs. 9 -
Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

 

Ezekiel ch.9 vs.6
Slay utterly old and young both maids, and little children, and women...

 

Leviticus ch.26 vs.29
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

 

Ezekiel ch.5 vs.10
Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and sons shall eat their fathers...

 

See!
Scripture supports homosexuality!
(JK)

 

Isaiah ch.13 vs.16
Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

 

Isaiah ch.13 vs. 18
Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

God orders abortions.

 

Numbers ch.31 vs.17
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

 

Deuteronomy ch.28 vs.53
And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee...