Part 21 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

What bottom line is Jesus Christ? Explain?

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One and the same.

 

1 Corinthians 9;14-17

14 Greek transcription 'Thus also the Lord commanded the ones the gospel proclaiming from the gospel to live'
English ' Thus also the Lord commanded the ones who proclaim the gospel to live from the gospel.
Modern English 'Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel'.

15 Greek 'But none used I of these things, not have I written. Now these things that it should become for me, it is good for me rather to die than boasting my that anyone make empty'.
English 'But none I used of these things, now I have not written these things that it should become in me, for it is good for me rather to die than that anyone make my boasting empty'.
Modern English 'But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so for me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void'.

16 Greek 'If For I preach the gospel, nothing there is for me boasting, compulsion to me is pressed on. woe. to me is if not I preach the gospel!
English 'For if I preach the gospel there is for me nothing to boast about for compulsion is pressed on me. But woe to me is if I do not preach the gospel.
Modern English ' For if I preach the gospel. I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me: yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel.

 

"en·ti·ty (nt-t)n. pl. en·ti·ties 1. Something that exists as a particular and discrete unit: Persons and corporations are equivalent entities under the law.
2. The fact of existence; being.
3. The existence of something considered apart from its properties.

entity (ˈɛntɪt&#618 n, pl -ties1. (Philosophy) something having real or distinct existence; a thing, esp when considered as independent of other things
2. existence or being
3. the essence or real nature

[C16: from Medieval Latin entitās, from ēns being; see ens]"

Gee, it looks like this person qualifies as a person and an entity. I think, therefore I am.

Sure it matters. You made an assertion relative to the "plan" yet you don't know the entirety of the plan. Therefore your claims regarding the 'plan' are irrelevant.

I am not aware of any 'puppets' that are participating in the forum. Question: You assert that wanren is a puppet. Can you show PROOF of that assertion? If not then you are fantasizing.

 

Says who? Sorry but you have no conclusive evidence to support this, so we'll just say this is a theory of yours, or a speculation, or just some wild guesswork.

Again you are just spewing out theories, speculation, guesswork. You can't possibly know how things were thousands upon thousands of years ago. The only way you would know would be if you are omniscient...are you omniscient?...never mind you don't need to answer cause I already know the answer...it is NO!

No, it's not impossible. I've already given reasonable logical explanations in previous post about the plausibility of the Great Flood.

When it comes to God nothing is impossible, nothing that is contrary to His character and nature that is.

Did you say...fact? Sorry but you have no facts, all you have are theories, speculations, guesswork, opinions and denials.

Well in your opinion it is but many others don't share your opinion, they believe the Great Flood was a real-life historical event. I for one believe it.

 

What exactly....would you call the flood story?

 

You have a book that is proved to have many errors, but you won't acknowledge the fact. You have been shown some of these but you turn a blind eye to them. Archaeology is gradually debunking much of the OT.

 

I've read all the theories about Noahs flood. Most of them by non-believers desperate to prove it 'false'.
Look the bottom line is that no one can prove/disprove the Great Flood...that's just the way it is.

Sorry but I'm not going to speculate on any minute, exact, precise details, God didn't give us any minute, exact, precise details regarding the Great Flood He brought upon the earth.

You don't know the height of those mountains were back during the flood. It had to be much lower than they are today, afterall Scripture does tell us that God raised the mountains and sank the valleys to allow the waters to recede after the flood. Below is the passage from Scripture:

"At your command, the water fled; at the sound of your thunder, it hurried away.
Mountains rose and valleys sank to the levels you decreed. Then you set a firm boundary for the seas, so they would never again cover the earth."---Psalms 104:7-9 NLT

Sorry but no one can prove/disprove anything regarding anything to do with God. You think you have proved it in your mind but the reality is you haven't proven anything.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's just the way it is. All you can really tell us is that you lost your faith in God and so be it.

Of course you learned something but as typical you will deny it, you learned that you can't prove/disprove anything to do with God, all you can really do is to have faith in Him or not have faith in Him.

 

Excellent post Mitt.... very excellent.

 

have you reverted to the assertion that not just ANY good person can enter heaven?

will you make up your mind, please.

 

you evidently found what I said very uncomfortable, given this brain vomit.

you'll never be able to peddle fast enough to outpace the essential fails of your myth, Wan.

 

did you catch my point? I guess not.

for the record ... if I was in a position to stop such a thing, I would. without hesitation. you would, too. even the second worst person in the world would.

your god, however? not so much.

 

No point to catch, however, I did catch your use of words..."never" and "being".

"if" is suggestive of a speculation. Speculations are not real and therefore what you would do under such circumstances can only be speculative and imaginative considering you have no means of being everywhere at that same time, all of the time or at any time in particular... (you did make the comparison of you vs an omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent being). Your 'if' scenario is also flawed on the presumption of what I would do... I, myself, have no real knowledge of what I would do... I can only imagine what I would like to do. Realism vs idealism.

 

first time you've answered a tough question honestly

since YOU have now admitted that you cannot know anything about gods, or whether they even exist, we ought to move on to why you would elect to base your worldview on the least likely possibility. culture? parents? fear of death? what is it, exactly?

 

I don't see that admission crank. Where specifically is it located within the text of his that you quoted?

 

actually, humans are very prone to leaping in regardless of danger to self, when an innocent or helpless person is in peril. complete strangers, too. they'll even do it for animals. it's an instinct to preserve and protect. something clearly lacking in your sky dad.

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did he not say nothing can be proven or disproven about gods? and that to have a firm position on the matter without 'proof' either way is absurd? or words to that effect ....

 

Be assure the devil is helping ISIS the evidence is very clear with their campaign of mass murder, slathering, brutality and total disrespect for human life.
Thank God for giving the good people of the West to go in and save those innocent victims.
This is the difference between Jihad and Crusade.

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So do you still consider yourself the absolute winner or are you still at a lost?

 

"clearly lacking". Where is it 'clearly lacking'. I use my visual reception devices and lo and behold... no such thing as you describe is taking place..... In fact I have seen the actions of God wherein human lives were saved from very perilous situations. My eldest son to be one of those incidents.... and there were witnesses to the event, who remarked that it appeared as though my son was carried in mid-air and placed softly on the ground... not receiving even so much as a scratch. The others in my family (myself included) did receive minor abrasions and bruising. That eldest son was thrown forward toward the windshield, struck me in the back as I was being propelled to the windshield and to the right of the driver seat, bounced off my back into the open driver window and land some 25' away from the vehicle that was moving toward him. The impact totaled my brand new vehicle when the driver of another vehicle ran the red light and collided with my vehicle,,, pushing my vehicle all the way to the curb on the opposite side of the street. Being thrown from the vehicle, he could have just as easily landed on the street where he might have been crushed by the vehicle.

There are many other instances in my own personal life wherein I know the odds against survival were astronomical... I would have to say that my "sky dad" has done a magnificent job in protecting me and my family.

 

First of all you never want to accept God you just want to do what you feel you want as a wondering soul in fact you even want to have your own private heaven or hell.
Indeed we all Christians share one common core beliefs and that is Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Messiah the God.
Atheist don't have one single core beliefs that is why atheist contradicts each other some believe there is life after death, others believe in some form of supreme being, others absolutely believe in nothing while you IMO seat between a fence between atheism and paganism.

 

Oops sorry again I thought you understood what I meant "bottom line is Jesus Christ" by that phrase it mean that we Christians all share one and the same core beliefs and that is Jesus Christ is God, Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Redeemer and the Messiah.

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Noah's flood that is what it is called.

 

Are you going to tell me where in the bible it states heaven is a sphere or not? Im wondering how long you will dodge before answering.
This thread solicits tough questions on Christianity. Excuse me for asking you to support your claim that heaven is a sphere by showing me where in the Bible it says that. Does it say it or did you make that up like the ate babies argument?

 

You have been shown the many consistency of the Bible archaeologist were able to discover and unearth ancient sites thanks to the Bible.
Christians have no problem with science and science have no problem with the Bible it is anti Christian individuals that have problem with science and the Bible.

 

Any good person can enter heaven. Will you accept God's offer to enter heaven? Will you ask God to receive you?
Even the criminal that was crucified with Christ entered Heaven because he ask for God's forgiveness or to be exact he ask God and God responded "Today you will be with me in paradise".

 

I have and I will answer you again "My Kingdom is not of this world"
I wonder how long you will learn that heaven and hell are in the spirit world.
I have answered your question in fact it is not even that tough the problem is you can not understand your own question.
Any body can be a winner but it won't mean a thing if you are always at a lost just like finding your way out of a corn maze can you find your way out of a corn maze?

 

An Atheist does not believe in god or gods period. There is no atheism lite wan. You cant be a little pregnant. You either are or you aren't.
An agnostic believes you cant prove or deny gods existence.
A person who believes in a some form of supreme being is a believer regardless of which god they believe in. Your god has no more proof of existence than anyone elses. Muslims are beheading Christians because they believe their god Allah is the only god. Is their Quran wrong?

 

so we're back to ANY GOOD PERSON? so all my dead atheist friends are there? they were mostly very good people, so I guess they must be.

tell me, meantime, can an evil person enter heaven if they employ the cheat? ie, swear allegiance?