Part 22 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

1. Science have already done a great job of providing the evidence one upon a time a global climatic event occurred and both none Christians and Christians scientist agreed on that.
2. The Bible presented how an Angel of God communicated with Balaam through his donkey.
3. You were not there either during the Noah's flood that is why it is written so that people of the future may know.
4. The more reason why the flood because good people need help to stop those cannibals from wiping them out. Don't you agree that those helpless and innocent babies need help need protection from the cannibals? Today we have laws against child abused and this include cannibalism.

 

The donkey itself does not talk the donkey was use a medium by God to talk to Balaam. The Bible is very clear that is why there is no error with the Bible the error is only with the reader.
Numbers 22:
28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

29 And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee.

30 And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.

31 Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

32 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse before me:

33 And the ass saw me, and turned from me these three times: unless she had turned from me, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive.

34 And Balaam said unto the angel of the Lord, I have sinned; for I knew not that thou stoodest in the way against me: now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get me back again.

 

There are many kinds of birds, bears, fish, mammals, insects etc. And each their own answer to your post # 645 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=371470&page=65&p=1064270784#post1064270784 a bear will not become a fist, an eagle will not become a wolf, nor a human become a gorilla or a chimp become a human. Unless you are implying that a bird can become a fish kind is that what you are getting at?
Genesis 1 is very clear every creature created according to their own kind.

 

Of course I will agree with you that you finally acknowledge that it was not my post by trevorw's that you have mistakenly treating it as mine.
#613 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=371470&page=62&p=1064268809#post1064268809

 

You know what they're getting at, you're just being obtuse. I'd like to see you put some honest effort into answering the question instead of dancing around it. The question is "What mechanism prevents one "kind" from becoming two 'kinds'?"

And maybe you can help me with my question too, post #657

If god is "all knowing" as indicated in the bible, (examples below) then why was he not aware of Lot and his family who lived in Sodom, as first evidenced by Genesis 18:26 (The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.&#8221

Why did Abraham have to intervene and stop god from destroying Lot along with the rest of Sodom? Why didn't god already know Lot was there?

Thanks.

Examples of god's omniscience:
Jeremiah 23:24 "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord. "

Matthew 10:29 "What is the price of two sparrows--one copper coin? But not a single sparrow can fall to the ground without your Father knowing it."

 

Then the ass talked.

What did the serpent say to Eve?

 

Then the donkey talked....which you said is "fiction"....ergo Numbers is fictiion....ergo, the Bible is in error.

[video=youtube;G6o881n35GU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6o881n35GU[/video]

 

Numbers begins at Mount Sinai, where the Israelites have received their laws and covenant from God and God has taken up residence among them in the sanctuary.[2] The task before them is to take possession of the Promised Land. The people are numbered and preparations are made for resuming their march. The Israelites begin the journey, but they "murmur" at the hardships along the way, and about the authority of Moses and Aaron. For these acts, God destroys approximately 15,000 of them through various means. They arrive at the borders of Canaan and send spies into the land, but upon hearing the spies' fearful report concerning the conditions in Canaan the Israelites refuse to take possession of it, and God condemns them to death in the wilderness until a new generation can grow up and carry out the task. The book ends with the new generation of Israelites in the Plain of Moab ready for the crossing of the Jordan River.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Numbers

On his deathbed David gave his final instructions to Solomon including his promise that the line of Solomon and David will inherit the throne of Judah forever, and his request that Solomon kill his oldest enemies on his behalf.[

 

So was balaam riding the ass or riding the angel. Because if the angel was talking as you say, then balaam was riding the angel. Or the angel is an ass.
And God and angels are ventriloquists. Quick go google the word.

 

Of course I agree with you that it was your post and not trevorw's. You mistakenly admit you thought was trevorw's.

 

When ever there is prosperity and security people tend to forget God when there is sufferings, insecurity, doubt and danger people will remember God.
Christianity have and will always be involved in the advancement and development or R&D in science and medicine in order to keep changing this world to make it a better place and since the 1st century Christianity has succeeded and come a long way and will continue to pursue for the betterment of humanity. Genesis 1
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

 

I answered their question straight forward they ask how many or what is "kinds"? It is the groupings of different animals according to their own species example as I have presented birds, insects, humans, cats, fish etc. all according to their kind. The mechanism that prevents one kind from becoming two kinds is external intervention. How can a mouse be a cat-mouse? Do you honestly think that a cat and a mouse can on their own became two new kinds?
God gave man the responsibility and in Sodom and Gomorrah God gave Abraham that chance in order that Abraham may know it himself that indeed God knows everything. The Bible did not specifically talk about God's knowing Lot's where about instead it focus on Abraham's sense of loyalty or concern to his nephew Lot. This leave to interpretation and IMO it was a test of Abraham's sense of humanity Abraham demonstrated his concern and care for humanity and God responded by allowing Lot and his family to be rescued.

Jeremiah 23:24 "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord. "

Matthew 10:29 "What is the price of two sparrows--one copper coin? But not a single sparrow can fall to the ground without your Father knowing it."
In those Gospels God is addressing man who doubts God's all knowing.
Just like you question if God knows everything than God should already know what you will be or not will be? And God does know and IMO because God created this temporal world to allow man to experience responsibility He allowed man to shape their own destination allowing us the opportunity and chance to be pure good without God's always intervention a process to enter Heaven. If not God would have just created us like all creatures no human intelligence just live, survive and die like all other creatures.

 

Since evolution doesn't argue for any of those things, I'll have to assume you don't understand what evolution is. So let me ask you this, can a fish become an amphibian?

 

Both the donkey and serpent talk because of spiritual intervention not because they actually were talking creatures.

 

Balaam was riding the donkey and when the donkey refused to go further because the donkey sense the presence of the Angel, Balaam started to forced the donkey to proceed that is when God spoke to Balaam through the donkey using the donkey as the medium then did Balaam saw the Angel and he ask for God's forgiveness.

 

It is a good thing that trevorw agree that it is his post and not mine. That is why it is important to write things down.

#613
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=371470&page=62&p=1064268809#post1064268809

 

So you agree we need to interprete the Bible. We can't rely on what it says literally. Whoops. Goodbye Mr Noah, been nice knowing you. Most people interprete Mr Noah as a myth, the Exodus as a story, etc. etc.

 

It needs to be remembered that only 2 men (and families) - Caleb and Joshua - were counted worthy to enter Canaan. The only 2 men that left Egypt.

 

Good, then you admit they talk. Doesn't matter if spiritual intervention or not. That wasn't brought up. Just the fact that in the bible a serpent and a donkey both talk.
And you just confirmed. End of that topic.

 

What are gospels? Which part of the bible are they?

 

Numbers 30 And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.
And you're saying Balaam was riding God. Why did God allow balaam to ride him?

Whoa, Now you're calling god an ass. Tread carefully.

 

Yes indeed. We all agree it is not trevorw's.

 

Remember, now that WR has said the donkey "talked"...that means according to what he posted earlier that Numbers is "fictional", since he said talking donkeys were only found in fiction.

And if Numbers is fictional....the Bible is in error, since it's not historical fact, but...made up.

 

Hurrah.
I was beginning to get confused and to think I posted in my sleep. I can tell my psychiatrist donkeys don't actually talk, he was beginning to believe
they did.

 

I don't agree with your statement that, "the world is open to what this God is" to me that statement is suggesting one can believe anything they want about God regardless if one religion contradicts what another religion proclaims. That would be illogical for there can't be contradicting truths, there can be only one truth, one absolute truth pertaining to God. God has revealed that one absolute truth to mankind.

We read in Scripture, "For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him."---John 3:16-17 NLT

We also read in Scripture,"Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."---John 14:6 NLT

So as we can see just through these two passages I have presented the Bible teaches exclusivism in that there is only one way to know God—through Jesus Christ.

The apostles also taught the same message, Scipture tells us, "There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved."---Acts 4:12 NLT

Now the question becomes do you believe what the Christian faith proclaims? If you don't so be it, believe anything you want but the Bible clearly teaches that there is only one path to God and that is through Jesus Christ our Lord Savior!

And so any other belief would be wrong and so as Christians we can't believe just everything that's out there, we must just believe what the Bible teaches us.