Planned Parenthood tweets "Happy Mother's Day!"

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  1. PatriotNews

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    The "unwanted children" that democrats don't want to become "people". The children who are aborted. Millions of them since Roe.

    Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill that receives federal funds. End of story.
     
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    There are no children involved in abortion unless you count 11 year olds whose fathers/priests/brothers/uncles/neighbors impregnated them and then abortion is the best course.

    You have not stated one Democrat policy that hurts children. Just drooling "all Democrat policies hurt children" doesn't prove anything.

    Instead of taking this off topic with politics why don't you go to the political forum ....

    And you have no proof that PP uses federal funds for abortions....none....and drooling that over and over won't make it true.
     
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    Same post with bold highlights? Who is taking this off topic? The topic is abortion and Planned Parenthood.

    How many 11 year olds are impregnated by their fathers/priests/brothers/uncles/neighbors? How many are
    impregnated by the teachers? Let's not forget what a bunch of child molesting group that is. Anyhow, that
    is a fraction of a fraction of abortions. It that were the only abortions performed in the US the numbers would
    be so small there would hardly be an abortion problem.

    The fact that Planned Parenthood receives federal money and performs abortions is all the proof I need.
     
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    If PP used Federal Funds for abortions, it would have been proven by now. So that's just one more "pro-life" lie. Too bad you have no facts.
     
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    How fortunate for your children that you didn't exercise your right to choice.

    I just want to remind you that nearly half the GOP is women. So your dumb
    elephant standing on a woman symbol is just dumb. As far as that goes,
    the men in the GOP have mothers, sisters, daughters, aunts ect.
     
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    Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill that gets federal funding and that's the fact, Jack.

    [video=youtube;J3I97IFc_zU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3I97IFc_zU[/video]
     
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    Just because half the Repubs are women doesn't mean a thing....doesn't mean their rights can't be etched away by their fellow Repubs...and they're too stupid to know it.
    So what if the Repubs have , mothers, sisters, daughters, aunts.........disrespect for women's rights doesn't seem to faze them...


    Oh, and Nazis were for FORCED birth and FORCED abortions...FORCE, what YOU want to use against women....you have that in common with them.
     
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    And the democrats are for forced sex and sexual exploitation and drive the women to the abortion mills
    and force them to get abortions of the children they fathered when they forced sex on them.
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: That would be inflammatory if it wasn't just so downright ridiculous that no one IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would take it seriously.
     
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    You are kidding yourself if you think that never happens.
     
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    Heard that sooo many times, fact is that you or any of the investigations into PP have NEVER found any Federal funds paying for elective abortions.
     
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    Nope it's a confusing cause and effect fallacy

    PP provide abortions as one service of the many they provide, not a single cent of Federal funding is used for elective abortions. The fact you have to attempt to use a cause and effect fallacy only shows your lack of intelligence on the matter.

    - - - Updated - - -

    wow Tea Party logic is a thing to behold ....................................... and then laugh about.
     
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    You missed...."""that no one IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would take it seriously"""


    You could always show proof it happens......;)
     
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    Is Planned Parenthood an abortion mill, yes or no? Answer - Yes.
    Does Planned Parenthood get federal funds, yes or no? Answer - Yes.

    Tell me where I'm wrong?

    Tea Party? What the heck does the Tea Party have to do with it?

    So you are saying that women are never sexually abused, never forced to have sex, never
    forced to have abortions in the United States? I just wonder how many under aged girls are
    forced by their parents to get abortions. Victims of domestic violence, I bet they are beaten
    into getting abortions all the time.
     
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    This is something that the pro-choice people would like for you not to know, that thousands of
    women in the United States are only given one choice, abortion.

     
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    <Mod Edit>

    PP does provide abortions, and they receive Federal funding .. however you ignore the fact that they do not receive Federal funding for elective abortions.

    I actually made a mistake in the fallacy you are attempting to promote, it is a composition fallacy and not a confusing cause and effect fallacy, specifically the second type of composition fallacy.

    Composition Fallacy - The second type of fallacy of Composition is committed when it is concluded that what is true of the parts of a whole must be true of the whole without there being adequate justification for the claim.

    eg, you say PP provide abortions which is true
    you say PP receives Federal funding which is true
    you say that the above shows that PP receive Federal funding for elective abortions, which is false.

    Your comment above does not equate to your previous comment of And the democrats are for forced sex and sexual exploitation and drive the women to the abortion mills and force them to get abortions of the children they fathered when they forced sex on them.

    Do try to stick to your own comments and not move the goal posts to suit.
     
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    Let me add one more to that - Money is fungible, true or false? Answer: True.
    Other than that, you just confirmed everything I said.

    I'll stand by my comment. Democrats give tacit approval to forced abortions or coerced abortions
    by never even addressing the problem.
     
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    Yet another myth propagated by pro-lifers

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.html

    Extract - Fewer than 1% said their parents' or partners' desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason.

    http://www.ansirh.org/wp-content/up...rs-in-Womens-Reasons-for-Seeking-Abortion.pdf
     
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    Still a Composition Fallacy, When you can provide a single piece of evidence that shows a single cent of Federal money goes to elective abortions you might have a point, until then you don't.

    You are entitled to your opinion, mean while in the real word we have democrats who actually did something about Republicans who supported a regime of slave labour and sex trade in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.

    Human rights and labor investigators have found rampant abuses there over the years, notably the trafficking of women for a commercial sex trade and the exploitation of mostly female workers from poor Asian countries in a largely foreign-owned garment-manufacturing industry that uses the territory to turn out "Made in U.S.A." clothing exempt from U.S. tariffs and quotas.
    As a lobbyist for the Northern Marianas government and, subsequently, the garment industry on the main island of Saipan, Abramoff enlisted DeLay and other Republican leaders in a battle against the Clinton administration, human rights groups, labor unions and a bipartisan group of lawmakers to preserve local control over immigration and the minimum wage....

    ... "For years, DeLay and Abramoff used their power and influence and corrupt practices to defend the indefensible," Miller said in a statement accompanying the introduction of his bill. "The House of Representatives failed to stop extraordinary abuses of poor women guest workers in the textile and tourism industries in the Marianas despite overwhelming evidence documented by the federal government, Congress, the news media and other sources."

    He charged that DeLay, the former House majority leader, and Abramoff, a conservative Republican who became one of Washington's top lobbyists, "ignored well-documented threats to American security, criminal activity, violations of labor law, forced abortions and human trafficking" in the Northern Marianas.
     
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    Just as I am sure your pro-life sources would never lie either. :roll:

    and considering how quickly you responded I bet you didn't even look at the links provided, doing the standard pro-life thing of attempting to discredit anything and everything without bothering to actually look at it.
     
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    Who's he? I don't see a connection between your assertion and your quoted text. Nor do I see an
    endorsement of slave labour and sex trade in your quote by any republican or Tom Delay.
     
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    Why look at anything which will not do anything to change my mind on abortion.

    Abortion is evil no matter how many links you provide.
     
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    So you are not a person who says that if you don't stand against something you are giving tact approval - oh hang on you actually stated that - the fact remains that DeLay used his influence to disrupt investigations into slave labour and the sex trade in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands despite numerous reports that he had access to showing it was taking place.

    He is Jeff Miller, as can easily be seen from the citation.

    You claim, with no evidence to support it, that "Democrats give tacit approval to forced abortions or coerced abortions by never even addressing the problem. " and yet when presented with evidence that a Republican Representative actually worked with a lobbyist in suppressing material that showed abuses of people including forced abortions you fall into the " Nor do I see an endorsement of slave labour and sex trade in your quote by any republican or Tom Delay." .. hypocritical to say the least.

    By your own assertion the fact that DeLay did nothing about then this he is in tact approval .. in fact what he did was even worse, he knew what was going on and actively suppressed any and all attempts to address it.
     

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