Planned Parenthood tweets "Happy Mother's Day!"

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  1. PatriotNews

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    Oh yes, there also can be a magic doctor who cuts the baby out of the womb and magically it becomes a baby.

    Yes, that is the dehumanizing of life that I am on about. You are not a person until magically you have left the
    womb to breath on your own. Before that, you are not a person. You have to pass out of the magic womb in
    order to be a person.
     
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    No you are right. It is human. And it is also a baby. And it is a person. Inside the womb.

    This nonsense that puts labels on human life based on location is what is so stupefying.
     
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    Well, you heard of it now.....and just because you turned a blind eye to it in your desperate attempt to make it go away doesn't mean it didn't happen and isn't happening now.

    I would assume you have a computer....why are you afraid to use google and type in Tom Delay/Mariana/Abramoff ???
     
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    Yes, if using technicalities and "scientific words" helps to assuage you of your guilt, by all means
    do so. Abortion is killing a human being. I don't care what stage of development it is or what you
    call it.
     
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    So you admit you lied when you claimed some posters said the fetus wasn't human.

    And that's just the start of everything you have wrong.

    IF it's a person why do you give it MORE rights than other persons namely the woman it's in ?

    What gives it super rights over others?



    Just because science scares the bejabbers out of Righties doesn't mean it's wrong....
     
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    Why would I feel any guilt? I see nothing wrong with abortion.

    Using correct terminology makes YOU feel guilty??? Is that why you avoid it....it is the truth.
     
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    Excellent nay-saying skills.
    I get confused sometime also on "choose" vs "chose". Because I said women who do choose that made it present tense as opposed to saying women who chose, past tense. :)

    I don't know what you mean by me being mean or rude or poisoning the well.
    I'm just pointing out the facts, that being they posted a meme that has a "pro-choice
    theme on Mother's Day. That is the whole point of the thread.
     
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    Did that. I got nothing. Except a something from "DemocracyNow" saying that sweatshop owners
    forced women to have abortions. Nothing sugestiing Delay or republicans endorsed the practice.
     
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    Wrong. It is my position if you can read the English language that liberals, leftists, democrats
    dehumanize unborn children by avoiding the use of the words baby, or child or person when
    referring to the unborn.

    It does not have superior rights, it should enjoy the same rights, such as the right to life.

    The only science deniers with regard to the abortion debate are the liberals who refuse to
    acknowledge the fact that life begins at conception. By the sixth week of pregnancy, the
    fetus has developed a heartbeat. By eight weeks it has a brain, eyelids and hands.

    By 13 weeks:

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    I don't know what that means because I am using correct terminology.
     
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    :) Of course you didn't see anything like facts about what happened and you never will because you might accidently

    :eekeyes: LEARN something you don't like....how terrifying for you!!!:omg:
     
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    There is no "there" there. If you want to talk about republicans' pro-forced abortion policies, you could
    always start a thread in the conspiracy theory forum with Bigfoot and aliens.
     
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    :) I knew you'd be terrified....... and you still have nothing to back up your claims......
     
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    The science supports the pro-life position. We are not the ones parsing words to justify our actions.
    A fetus is not "harming" a woman. It is not an invader. It is not attacking the woman.
    The womb is where all persons develop. There is not a person alive who did not develop
    in a womb. If every pregnancy was viewed as a harmful attack on women the race would
    be doomed.
    Life begins at conception and that is a scientific fact. Only science deniers say otherwise.
    Those with a political agenda. Of course, you like many others, resort to a strawman argument
    about when life in general began, which is not the question. The question is when does each
    individual life begin.
    I correctly pointed out that the left has to parse words and deflect with what they call "scientific"
    words or terms in order to assuage themselves of guilt when dehumanizing human life.
    Perhaps you don't. Perhaps you should. I just know that is why the leftists, liberals, progressives
    and democrats do it.
    Because it is evil and wrong.

    I hope that answers your question.
     
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    The left are science deniers who refuse to acknowledge basic scientific facts as you have. "We" means the pro-life community.
    Using that logic, if every pregnancy causes harm to women, pregnancy should be outlawed.
    Pregnancy is a natural part of reproduction and life. Without it there would be no people.
    Of course women go through necessary biological changes to their bodies during pregnancy.
    This is completely natural and normal.
    Life begins at conception and it's a scientific fact.
    Life Begins at Fertilization
    41 Quotes From Medical Textbooks Prove Human Life Begins at Conception
    Scientists Attest To Life Beginning At Conception
    That's the magic vagina theory.
    They are not feeling guilty so much as deflecting the guilt.
    You do it because the facts are science shows that life begins at conception.
    Now you are just denying science.
     
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    That is the conventional wisdom minus the "magic" part.
     
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    If it were a scientific fact, all scientists would agree, but any scientist will tell you the egg and sperm are alive before conception.
     
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    So life begins as a sperm? Is that your argument?
     
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    Ya, so quit killing them ! :)
     
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    Here is what Carl Sagan says about your "scientific fact:"

    Despite many claims to the contrary, life does not begin at conception: It is an unbroken chain that stretches back nearly to the origin of the Earth, 4.6 billion years ago. Nor does human life begin at conception: It is an unbroken chain dating back to the origin of our species, hundreds of thousands of years ago. Every human sperm and egg is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, alive. They are not human beings, of course. However, it could be argued that neither is a fertilized egg.
     
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    Sperms have civil rights now I guess. Just try and save the millions of lives each man produces.

    We'd really have an over population problem.
     
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    He's dead. What does he know? Nothing.

    Life does begin at conception. Carl Sagan is one stupid dolt if he thought otherwise. If life is an unbroken chain dating back to the origin of our species hundreds of thousands of years ago, then why in the heck don't we say when we celebrate our birthdays that we are 150,337 years old? Because we are not talking about when the first human was born, we are talking about when we, our individual selves were born. Not when life first crawled out of the muck a billion years ago, not when the first amoeba reproduced. We are not talking about when LIFE began, that is not the argument. We are talking when LIFE begins meaning each individual human life.

    If Carl Sagan were alive and said to me, "Hey, life is an unbroken chain dating back to the origin of our species hundreds of thousands of years ago. Every human sperm and egg is beyond the shadow of a doubt, alive. They are not human beings, of course. However, it could be argued that neither is a fertilized egg", I would shoot the stupid bastard in the head cause I'm tired of such ignorance. And I like Carl Sagan, he was a good guy.
     
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    You support KILLING LIFE!!!!!!:omg:


    Really!

    You recognize an overpopulation problem but are for FORCED birth????
     
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    Hmm, who to believe... you...or Carl Sagan...
     

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