Putin wants to rename city Volgograd to Stalingrad, whats next? Gulag reopening?

How do they manage not to pay their social help in Israel not being a melting pot!

And why do you not advocate a melting pot for Israel, if it is sooooo good!

This is a personal attack!

 

A bit of education would not do harm to you.

 

No, this city was called Царицын (Zarizyn).

 

I stand corrected. It was "Tsaritsyn" before it was renamed after Stalin in 1925, and renamed Volgograd after his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volgograd

Though it doesn't undermine the point -- there was no Stalingrad before it was named after Stalin.

 

Now it is correct

 

Nope, it was the truth. Mod edit,,flounder

 

Thank you Ron.

That guy made me so angry, that I cannot discribe it. I will ignore him. It is going to far in my emotions.

Your cool and decent way to point out his views is excellent, great service.

 

Litwin, I am amazed You presented here some local Russian news, which are not actually much discussed now in Russia and you caused a "Stalingrad" battle on 24 pages here.
I think you should be awarded with the name of "Greatest provocateur of the political forum" I will send you a bottle of Putinka to Stockholm as a congratulation. Just send me your address

 

I think there is an other guy inhere who deserves the drink far more.

Take care...

 

Trolling - In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic ...


Fabien, the purpose of a forum is to have intelligent discussions. If a person presents a logical and factual reason for their opinion, how can they be considered a troll merely because you disagree with their opinion. For instance, if I was to say I believe something and then gave a reason as to why I believe it, that would not be considered trolling. If though I was to call all Russians imperialists, nationalists, fascists or racist, or say that all Russians believe Stalin is a saint or Putin is a fascist without giving a reason, it would be an inflammatory remark, and the intent would be to arouse anger in others. That would be considered trolling.

Also if I was to repeat something you said out of context in order to sow discord and make people believe you are racist, anti semetic, or what not, that again would be trolling. In other words a troll is a forum troublemaker.

 

Thank you very much for your really informative very decent and needed explanation of you, beeing really intellegent and always writing inhere very profound decent postings.

I am deeply impressed. I recognize that y o u really do know what a troll is about.

Thank you lady, indeed.

 

If Russia renames Volgograd after Stalin, they will go down in history as a nation that named a major city after a mass-murdering tyrant.

do they really want that?

 

You have reconfirmed your personal attack.

 

Everybody can read my posts in the context of the discussion, find out what I was really saying and what Jews I was referring to.

BTW, most Jews do not live in Israel, I was mostly referring to Jews that live in Israel and vote for Bibi or other right wing extremists.

And everybody can read your posts and find out the truth about your blanket hateful statements about Russians and Germans.

You said that it was a pity that no atomic bombs were dropped on Berlin, that killing another 150 000 German women and children would have been OK.

You are advocating collective punishment, and this is a crime according to the international law.

 

Do they not have a Ben Gurion Airport and a Menachem Begin Heritage Centre in Israel?

I am sure that there are even more institutions and places, named to honour Israeli leaders, that committed crimes against Palestinians, like the Deir Yassin Massacre.

 

Good post!

 

I do have nothing to ad.

 

Ronstar made a good job.

Your statements, collected with love and priceseness do show where you are comming from. Everybody can by that exactly notice, what you think and feel.

I very much do apreciate that job, done by Ronstar. I would say I was able to smell what he was collecting.

Sir, your views do show up (I guess not only) my personal impression your viewpoint.

With that, (I guess not only my personal viewpoint) in addition to your view that Poland and Britain are responsible for the 2 WW, your political position is clear. Such position you wont find among democratic parties in Germany. I think there is no way, that our great german constitution would cover such viewpoints and saying you are based on democracy and the constitution - I think you are far far right wing outside the german constitution.

I do not have to explain what I mean. It is more than obvious. Obvious is also by that, that it is impossible that you are eaven close to german mainstream.

Have a nice day, with very best and kind regards.



P.S. I am 100% certain that such positions you represent are not exactly helpfull about such important issues as german export, demographie in Germany, tourism..but all that does not count and is nothing if I think about the impact you might cause on people who suffered from german aggression during the war.

 

Yesterday, 11:47 PM

Today, 11:08 AM

If you do not ignore me any more ( ), then address my arguments!

You know what I think about you, I know what you think about me.

If somebody just repeats over and over again that his opponent is a "bad guy", then this has nothing to do with a civilised discussion.

Attack the message, not the messenger!!!!

I have quoted the opinion of the prominent Russian military expert Sergei Kovalev who came in his study to the conclusion, that Poland (because of the support of the USA and GB) was guilty of the outbreak of WWII.

Can you debunk the opinion of this Russian military expert with your counter-arguments?

Do you really believe, that calling an opponent "bad guy", because he had quoted a Russian military expert, disproves the arguments of the quoted expert?

And what has the opinion of politicians to do with historical truth?

Most politicians are badly educated people who only care about their own career.

Historians are the people who are experts in history, not corrupt politicians!

You have to disprove the arguments of Sergei Kovalev, and just calling this military expert a "bad guy" would not be enough.

You have to attack the arguments of Sergei Kovalev!

That would be a civilised discussion!

 

here is an other , a new definition of troll and trolling

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=358886&p=1063939241#post1063939241

 

if Mr Sergei Kovalev and Zhyrik said it , we have no contra-arguments... ´cos they have much like you dont have any interest in defending Stalin´s case ...

 

no i just have great respect to all Victims of the man-eater Koba , can i get caviar instead?

 

So how is that Lithuanian Army coming?

 

lies, this one is hangs in RPC churches
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Икона_«Матрона_и_Сталин»

 

EU can for sure,