Questions for Muslims

According to Christ the old testament is still relevant.,....In fact...According to him , anyone who teaches others that they do not have to follow even the least of the old laws will be viewed as the least in heaven. It's Matthew 15; 17-20

In fact, Paul was the only aspostle to ever say the old testament didn't matter. And Paul contridicted Christ so much that many early Christians believed him to be a spy sent by the Pharasees to destroy christianity from within, and that his conversion and vision of Christ was a complete lie to get them to accept him.

 

Are you a Christian? If you are then obviously you should know that Christians believe in both the old and new testament.

 

You may of course think you know more about Islam than the biggest scholars of al-Aqsa University. The fact that your posts mirror nothing than the cheap spiteful propaganda of Robert Spencer make me doubt that you do though. Boring!

 

Yours words don't make sense. If Christ had accepted ALL the words of the Old Testament as you claim, he would have have been contradicting himself repeatedly. I am SURE that is not the case, which leads us all to be SURE that you are full of crap.

 

FALSE ! Christians do not subscribe to the Old Testament,and many Christians like myself don't even bother with the New Testament either, which still has lots of nonsense in it like Genesis, Adam & Eve, Noah's Ark and other such fairy tales.

Being a Christian is admiring and following the words of Hesus Christ to the best of our abilities, not following some book written by men, not God.

 

Sounds like they've got you programmed all right. Robert Spencer is right on the money and his books rely on documented FACT, much of it from the US government. The fact that you dismiss his books as "propaganda" is a sure indicator that your words are just that > propaganda.

 

Four completely correct statements. Well said.

 

Obviously you either didn't pay very much attention in your confirmation lessons or you did not have any.

 

Well, I'm sure as a devout follower you're willing to dismiss any criticism of Spencer, who showed his true colours by openly endorsing the BNP, as propaganda. Weirdly enough none of these critics are as one-sided and one-dimensional as Spencer is. Whereas he and his followers keep drumming their oversimplified hate-message on and on and on. Goebbels would be proud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spencer_(author)

 

Confirmation ? Yes, I had one at the age of 11, when I was not yet prepared to decide what choice I wished to make regarding religion. So at an older age, as an adult, I chose to renounce my Catholicism, and became an unattached (to any church) Christian, who simply, generally follows the words of Christ.
This ought to serve as an example for all Muslims who follow an ideology (masquerading as a religion) which is far worse than Catholicism. This is what all of you should be doing. The same as those in Islam Watch, a group of apostates. You shouldn't be walking around in fear that some Muslim nitwit will try to kill you. This is the USA. We are all well armed and prepared for violent lunatics. If any try to attack me, it's simple. I blow their brains out.

Living in fear and living lies is no way to live. Renounce Muslims, renounce.

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

 

How about presenting the other cheek, my self-professed 'follower of Christ'. Didn't our very Lord tell Peter to put the sword away?

 

1. What is the BNP ?

2. So you went to Wikipedia and got a list of Spencer haters. Well, congratulations. Actually, anyone on earth could compile a list of haters of themselves, all of whom are willing to stretttttttch the truth to smear them. Spencer is no different than anyone else. Fact is though, his books have been New York Times bestsellers, showing that a lot of people do take stock in what he says. Fact also is that his words are backed up with proof over and over and over, in thousands of footnoted reports, many from the US government.

3. So who are these Spencer critics ? (not that it matters). Well Karen Armstrong, your first choice is classic. Islamapologist phony extraordinaire Karen is a laughable choice as a critic of anyone writing truthfully about Islam. She is anything but an objective dis-interested party. She has been closely connected with the Islam propaganda network and receiving income from it. Examples :
a. She made considerable appearances on television, including appearances on Rageh Omaar's programme on The Life of Muhammad.
b. She was also an advisor for the award-winning, PBS-broadcast documentary Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet (2002), produced by Unity Productions Foundation.
c. In 2007, Armstrong was invited by the Islamic Religious Council of Singapore to deliver the "2007 MUIS Lecture"

Sure, Karen will criticize Robert Spencer and his work. Especially when the people signing her paychecks expect that of her. LOL.

4. Dinesh D'Souza is a person who is supposed to be an intellect. Far from it, D'Souza plunges into discussions with little knowledge of the content needed. Here's 3 amazing examples of ignorance of him, talking like he really knows what he's talking about, when actually his "knowledge" is nothing more than a bundle of Islamapologist propaganda :

a. "[Spencer's] historical argument is dubious. It emphasizes violent passages in the Koran, while downplaying the passages that urge peace and goodwill. It applies a moral standard to Islamic empires that certainly could not be met by the Roman empire or the empires established by the Portuguese, the Spanish, the French and the British. In the Spain of Ferdinand and Isabella, for example, Jews had three choices: convert to Christianity, leave the country, or be killed. No Muslim empire legislated or systematically enforced such a policy toward its religious minorities.[23] ”
Can you believe this ? All through the centuries, Muslim conquerers have offered these choices, not just in Spain, but pretty much everywhere.

b. "Yes, the Koran says 'slay the infidels' but no Muslim empire actually did that. For example the Muslims ruled North India for two centuries before they were displaced by the British. The Mughal emperors could have killed the tens of millions of Hindus under their control, or at least forced them to become Muslims. They did nothing of the sort."
No Muslim empire ever killed infidels ? HA HA HA. Is this guy drunk ? Muslims have killed 270 million people around the world for 1400 years, and this is the only reason why this idiotic vile ideology has lasted so long. Of these 270 million people, 80 million were Hindus.

c. "Spencer glibly jumps over entire centuries in linking, say, the savagery of the Ottomans in Constantinople with the savagery of Hezbollah in Lebanon or the Taliban in Afghanistan."
Again D'Souza make no point whatsoever. Yeah Spencer "jumps over entire centuries". So ? That's because the Muslim conquest of the 14 centuries ARE linked. EARTH to D'Souza : All these centuries of Muslim conquest are based on the Koran, and the Muslim idea that God has ordered them to carry out this genocidal imperialism. Would somebody please enroll Dinesh D'Souza in a world history course ? (and not one taught by the same Islamapologist propagandists who "educated" him in the first place) Sheeeeeeeesh !!!

5. I've saved the best for last. The Southern Poverty Laughingstock Center.
HA HA HA HA. Phoniest organization in America, whose only mission is making money from gullible but generous liberals who cough up millions of $$$ to SPLC after being terrified by SPLC's scare talk about alleged (mostly powerless) violent right-wing organizations (Nazis, KKK, etc). A good expose' on them was written by FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform) with testimony from 3 liberal publications (the Nation, Harpers, and a local Alabama newspaper right next door to SPLC headquarters - http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=21513&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1902)

As for "hate" message. Well yeah. Spencer, and me, and other protectionists do hate hatred, genocidal imperialism, wife beating, severe misogyny, pedophilia, kidnapping, slavery, robbery, rape, animal cruelty, killing of gays, and all the other vile aspects of the Koran and of Islam. Who in their right mind would not hate these things and the ideology that promotes them ?

 

When the Muslim throat cutter boys appear at my door, they will be greeted by a blast of double O buckshot from my 12 Gauge shotgun. If out in the street, they'll get a .380 hollow point round in their gut, that will blow up inside them (eliminating harm to bystanders), and turn their guts into hamburger.

I said I "generally" follow the words of Christ (not 100%).

 

Quite obviously you haven't got the slightest clue about the words of Christ. He neither preaches violence nor self-righteous hypocrisy. Your posts continuously preach the very hatred you impute to all of Islam. Change a word here and there and people would think it's Al-Awlaki, who's posting.

Calling the kettle black ...

 

You sound like the Taliban and al-Qaida legit, who "generally" follow the Quran.

Thank you for this post.

 

The British National Party, a bunch of British Nazis whose leader once said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party#Immigration

 

You don't get it, or you're a Muslim apologist LIAR. I don't need an endorsement from some Muslim jerkoff, who's too selfish to look at his own indiscretions and deal with them honestly, and don't give me that crap about being a Christian. No Christian would ever support the awful things that you do, unless you're too stupidly ignorant to even know what they are (despite my telling you till I'm blue in the face). Your posts support the very hatred that you accuse me of engaging in. YOU are the hypocrite - big time.

 

They don't sound like a group that is worth spending even a single computer forum post on. If you want to post about a worthwhile group, here's a few :

http://aifdemocracy.org/

http://islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=55

http://www.actforamerica.org/

 

No I don't. My use of firearms is strictly in self-defense. I don't think that Al Qaeda was worried about the 3000 people killed on 9/11/2001 or the 13 Fort Hood soldiers killed by Major Nidal Hasan. They were all unarmed and just going about their business. Your boys are the aggressors, the killers, the jihadists, and they don't "generally" follow the Koran. They follow it meticulously, and that's why they are filthy, vile murderers, and so are you for supporting them.

 

Says the man who doesn't even read the Bible or go to Church.

Plenty of Christians have no problem with Islam, and plenty of Muslims have no problem with Christianity. We all love Jesus (PBUH), don't we?

Oh the irony....

Who said al-Qaida and the Taliban are my boys? I thought I made it clear my stance on them.

 

To many idiots, all muslims support Osama Bin Laden. Why do you think the Fox News guys consider building a Masque near ground zero as praise to the 9/11 highjackers?

 

Because FOX knows all about everything lol

Hmm... Did an actual Muslim even say anything to jump to such conclusions? Nope. Not even al-Qaida mentioned it, right?

But according to some, anybody they want can be representatives of Islam and speak for the whole religion. We used to have meetings, but that ended when we all voted for Osama Bin Laden, he ended the vote. But strangely, none of us remember that night to well lol.

Every time a Mozlem walks past where the Twin Towers were, it is our way of praising al-Qaida for killing 3 000 innocent people and instigating the killing of thousands more. So I suggest you ban the entire area from any Mozlem presence.

 

THe Ironic thing is the guy who funded the project owns Fox News. Fox News called anyone who is associated with the guy terrorists.....So They are all terrorists, by their own words...

 

LOL seriously? I didn't even know that. That's hilarious (and kind of suspicious actually...)

Only on FOX lol...

 

That's right says a man who doesn't read the Bible or go to church. One doesn't need to do those things to be a Christian. Being a Christian is revering Christ for his goodness and wisdom and emulating both. And you ought to emulate my practice of following my faith without elonging to any organized religion. See ? You just drop out of Islam, like I dropped Catholicism. Once you're an adult, there's no need to adhere to what was forced on you as a child. Whoops, I almost forgot. You're still a child, aren't you ? Hey, isn't it past your bedtime ? Bwa ha ha ha (Burt Reynolds laugh). Sorry I couldn't avoid that one. The door was too wide open.

Oh so you don't like the violent guys huh ? What about the Muslim Brotherhood ? CAIR ? ISNA ? MAS ? MSA ? ???????????/