Questions for Muslims

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  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    There were very careful not to give too much info out when they caled the guy a terrorist... Cause they didn't want their loyal viewers to know that he was their boss.
     
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    Because throughout history it has been standard tradition for Muslims to build upon the site of their conquest. The Park 51 building is special to them. It is part of what the planes hit on 9/11, and from the upper floors, they could gaze down upon ground zero. A victory monument.

    Didn't you know ? Mosques have always been built on top of churches and other significant buildings. Like the most famous mosque in the world, the AL-Aqsa mosque was built on top of the Jewish Temple Mount. Historians have noted this for 1400 years. Fox news isn't that old.
     
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    Now you're finally talking some good sense.
     
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    Christians build churches over muslim and jewish temples too.....That was not a slolely Muslim practice...
     
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    FALSE to say Al-Waleed funded the project & he owns 7% share of News Corporation. Whooopee. Yes, Al-Waleed is a bad guy with all that he's involved with, and just maybe he gets in with Fox to try to exercise a little control over it. I've noticed some pro-Muslim slant to Fox News brodacasts. Why do they have guys like Corey Saylor and Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR on their show ? These guys are the right arm of Hamas in the US, and Fox news people (O'Reilly, Ingraham, et al) talk to them like they were legitimate. I also noticed O'Reilly go ridiculously easy on a Muslim guy who came on the show and lied for 10 straight minutes about the Koran, and especially Sura 4:34.

    To call Fox News tough on Islam is a joke.
     
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    And reveal why they've gotten so soft on Islam lately.
     
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    Where ? When ? Got any links ?
     
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    It's common knowledge for anyone who takes the time to actually study the crusaides that Christians and Muslims converted old jewish temples to churches and mosques. The Dome of the Rock is a great example. It was used by both sides during the Crusaids, and is beleived to be the site of Solomon's Temple. Christians and Muslims have done the exact same thing for centuries. Claiming that any mosque built has to symbolize a conquest is stupud and ignorant.
     
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    Indeed. It is also common knowledge that a lot of churches (and mosques) were built on ancient pagan holy sites. When it comes to Mosques turned into Churches I strongly recommend a holiday in Spain, beautiful:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMtxWs5ZWWY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMtxWs5ZWWY[/ame]
     
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    So which of his posts is full of hate? Haven't seen a one written by him.
     
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    Like I said, he's a Muslim apologist LIAR. Either that or he's incredibly ignorant about Islam. whichever it may be, he supports Islam ("...you shouldn't be concerned about Islam or Muslims in general..."). Oh no ? Not even after 9/11 ? and Major Nidal Hasan ? and the Times Square bomber, and the underwear bomber, and Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, and Richard Reid, and 1400 years of Muslim genocidal imperialism before them which has killed 270 million innocent people.

    Anybody whose posts supports this vile ideology (masquerading as a religion), are posting posts that are full of hate, because that what Islam (the Koran) is - a book/ideology of hate. Simple as that.
     
  12. Daggdag

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    Something tells me you are one of those people who gets all of their "facts" about Islam from Fox News and has never even seen an actual copy of the Quran, much less read one.
     
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    These are the type of people the propoganda on FOX News breed. Scary, isn't it?

    It's ironic he's calling other people ignorant about Islam. Come on now. You're entire perspective on Islam is from what you've read from people who despise this religion and this nightmarish concept of "Stealth Jihad" the Muslim Brotherhood mentioned. When you finally realize the Muslim Brotherhood aren't the Caliphs of Islam or the Popes of Islam the sooner you will make sense in your posts and finally realize how silly you sound.
     
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    Truly unbelievable . Extent of a response to this post.
     
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    Something tells me you are an Islamapologist and nothing much truthful is going to come forth from you any more than any of the other Islamapologists. Also, if you weren't so uninformed, you'd know that FOX knew is partially owned by an Islamist (Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal), which is why Fox News has Islamic terrorist and Muslim Brotherhood guests like members of CAIR and other Muslim Brotherhood groups, and talks to them as if they had an ounce of decency and legitamacy.

    As for the Koran, I read it 50 years ago, and have read 5 translations of it (Ali, Pickthall, Dawood, Shakir, and Arberry) and they all say the same vile things : Kill non-believers, ambush them, beat wives, enslave, commit pedophila, rob, rape, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
     
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    I suppose you had better include me as someone who is full of hate as well. I spend my life with a Muslim ( or two or three) and actually in our family of Muslims- well they have intermarried with Jews and Christians. Please tell me are all Muslim apologists.
     
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    You're not qualified, MR QUIZ ZERO
    . And apparently, you're just as in the dark about Fox News as Daggdag. See post # 290.
     
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    Do they follow the Koran ? DO they advocate killing "nonbelievers", killing gays, kidnapping/ambush/enslaving, wife-beating, massive misogyny, robbery, rape, pedophilia, animal cruelty (Eid al-Adha), torture, mutilation, and other vile things of Islam ? If not, they aren't Muslims. One doesn't become a Muslim just because they say "I am A Muslim". Being a Muslim is following the Koran - every word (which they believe is the word of God, and cannot be denied)
     
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    l that, and this is what you come up with?

    Here you are correct. One is a Muslim by reciting and believing the Shahada: "La Illaha Ilallah, Muhammad Ar'Rasulallah"

    Islam advocates defending yourself from oppression and agression.
    Nowhere does it say to kill homosexuals, something some Christians would enjoy doing.
    It tells how to treat slaves which was a common practice at that time, and far better than during slavery in America. Oh, and freeing a slave is considered a good deed.
    No, not wife beating it preaches love and respect and equality for women, a rarity in that time and in the Christian world until how recently? Besides, I won't even mention the Bible.
    Where is mysonogy?
    Haha robbery is a sin and people used to get their hand cut off for it. But a common practice in America.
    Rape, another sin. Again, quite common in the West.
    As is pedophilia, which I believe was started by Rabbi's and apparently practiced more by Priests and Jews than Imams and Muslims.
    Eid al-Adha is for Abraham (PBUH), not animal cruelty, which can be found all over the West.
    Torture? No, but the American government seems to love it.
    Mutilation? No, that's an African tradition not Islamic practice.

    So, as you can see, none of those are at all exclusive to Islam.

    Too easy.

    Salam :)
     
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    As usual our little Muslim liar boy comes up with a pack off lies to try to pass Islam off as a nice religion. Well, the sad truth is it is neither of those.

    Sura 4:34 of the Koran clearly tells Muslim husbands (referring to their wives to "BEAT THEM".

    "Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them." (Koran 4:34)

    That's what the Sura says. 5 translations of the Koran (including the CAIR-approved Ali version) all say that. Here is a transliteration of it > Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna. It means "beat them". There is no other translation.

    No, not wife beating OJLeb ? HA HA HA. YES, wife-beating OJLeb. YES, YES, YES. "Love and respect and equality for women" ? HA HA HA. This dope might as well have tried to tell us that Florida is cold in the summer.
    Pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwww !!!! (High-pitched whistle) Yeah lots of respect and equality for women. When they're lying under a pile of rocks, huh?

    Eid al-Adha - all over the west ? HA HA. Yeah, all over the west. BY MUSLIMS. Nobody else is crazy that way.

    The more this guy lies, the more he shows himself to be exactly that. At this point, he has ZERO CREDIBILITY (to match up with his ZERO on the Islamization quiz, and those hundreds of people and things which he knew nothing about).
     
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    No, I just don't judge all people within a group based on the actions and beliefs of some people in that group. I've studies the Quran, and, know for a fact that all muslims do not believe the same thing that people like Osama Bin Laden preached. Not judging someone for things they didn't do is no being an apologist....it's called being a christian. Something far right "Christians" know very little about, from the fact that they contridict the teachings of christ so much.
     
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    Why should ANYONE be "bound" by the rules some fool thought up and decided to write down.
    There isnt even any PROOF of the story at all.
    Stupidity..just like all religious fools. The real question is Why are all religious people so foolish.

    There is no proof such a person even LIVED let alone died. Your "gospels" prove nothing other than someone back then wrote a book and people are dumb enough to think its real.

    See responce above

    Is there any way to prove any of the religions...nope So dont go saying YOUR imaginary pink flying elephant is the ONLY REAL imaginary pink flying elephant.
     
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    I know nothing of "far right Christians. I am a far left Christian, but neither of those has anything to do with the simple fact that the Koran contains messages of hate, genocidal imperialism, wife-beating, pedophilia, rape, slavery, and many other vile things, and Muslims haven't changed one word of it in all its 1400 years (including the Muslims who you say "do not believe the same thing that people like Osama Bin Laden preached").

    OK. Maybe they don't believe it. But other than a handful (see my links), I don't see many of them standing up and speaking out, to condemn the hateful, violent pages of the Koran, that Osama bin Laden preached, either.

    http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/opinion/16friedman.html

    http://aifdemocracy.org/
     
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    So you would say other notable people of ancient history have no proof that they lived ? Julius Caesar, Hannibal, Alexander the Great, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle (and these did not have as many people talking about them and writing about them as Jesus Christ did - millions of people who witnessed his miracles, in different locations, over a 3 year period).
     
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    Show your PROOF that your religion is more than just a fairytale.
    Having religon is like having a dick, happy for you to have it just DONT whip it out in PUBLIC or try to ram it down some kids throat.

    You "pride" in your faith can be a good thing. as long as YOUR religion isnt talked about or forced upon others. The roman catholic church and is supporters should be seen but NOT heard.
     
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