Questions for Muslims

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Blackrook, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. Margot

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    I have no explanation for murder anywhere.. Do you see your fatheaded ignorance yet?

    Your lies don't stand .. You seem to think that a murder in Europe justifies your lies.


     
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    I just told you how. Reread.

    It makes no difference to me because I can see through the facade. I like to point out the facade because of the way it is used to try and distort Christianity or Jesus Christ.

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  3. Margot

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    Calling me a Muslim is the only way you can save face and deflect your ignorance..

     
  4. Blackrook

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    Margot might as well be a Muslim. She is constantly rushing to their defense. On the other hand, she is constantly trying to undermine Christianity. She has said on this forum that Moses was not a real person and the Exodus story isn't true.
     
  5. Quantrill

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    How would that save face and deflect ignorance?

    I call you a muslim because you are. You demean the Bible and Christianity and Jesus Christ. And you always are defending islam, and its false prophet, muhammed.

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  6. Blackrook

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    I have met people who denied being Communists but were constantly arguing the Communist p.o.v.

    You seem to be in the same category of person.

    If you have not officially converted to Islam does not matter. It is obvious where your sympathies lie.
     
  7. Margot

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    Because Christians are not required to be uneducated bigots.

    Christians are not required to be ignorant of history or science or other cultures and faiths.

    When Jesus declared: “Salvation is from the Jews” (John 4:22).... the focus, of course, was upon his personal identity as the Messiah..
     
  8. Blackrook

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    Ok, then. Admit Mohammed is a false prophet.

    Yes or no?

    Is Mohammed a false prophet, or isn't he?

    I predict that you will refuse to answer the question.
     
  9. Quantrill

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    That explains nothing.

    Well, was Jesus lying when He declared 'salvation is of the Jews'. Yes salvation is only in Jesus Christ. Salvation is of the Jews. True or not?

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  10. Margot

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    You may be the dumbest person on this board.

    Its as if a person is opposed to the Zionist ideology, then the Blood Libel BS of Jews in Europe MUST be true.

    You don't have the intellect to be discerning.


     
  11. Blackrook

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    It is obvious you hate Jews and want to destroy their homeland. Do you deny this?
     
  12. Margot

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    What utter idiocy.. Some of my family is Jewish.

    I am opposed to theft and murder, collective punishment and demonizing any group for a political agenda. I am opposed to ignorance and any ideology that reeks of Nazism.

    I am opposed to people who lack education and discernment in favor of hatred.
     
  13. Neutral

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    How exactly does that bot of hyperbole come from an intellectual position?

    I have worked with the IDF, good people. Excellent Soldiers. Israel is an advanced and stable state in a area that is desperate from that example. Isarel is an established fact that is not going anywhere.

    Israel is also a country that is occupying its neighbor's land, has a counter-productive and conflict breeding settlement policy, repressive laws and actions towards Palestinians, and a policy that is confrontational rather than diplomatic (witness the reversal of Turkish/Israeli relations for example).

    Is telling Israel that their current policies are bone headed a demand for the destruction of Israel?

    Israel is an estabished fact. It isn't going anywhere. Instead of screaming victim through BiBi all the time, they need to work on policies of engagement and not negotiate but settle. At some point, Israel should probably notice that the world is treating its current administration like the boy who cried wolf .... WAY to many times.

    And how does Israel change? Might be good to take a ACTUAL look at the Islam that Israel and her supporters too often bash. There are far more commonalities between Juddaism and Islam than there are differences. Indeed, there are people on both sides of the fence who are peaching and indeed working to expand these common ties as a basis of building peace based on respect rather than fear of Israeli might.

    Funny, you don't see BiBi mention these things? And that just might be one reason the people criticize his government so fiercely.
     
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    The fact that some of your family is Jewish makes no difference at all.

    You are one of the most outspoken enemies of Israel on this forum.

    Do you deny this?
     
  15. Margot

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    Yes. I deny it.. I am NOT an enemy of Israel. I want Israel to play to win and be a good citizen. I want them to get out of the West Bank, Shaaba Farms and Golan Heights.

     
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    Israel is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if it does and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if it doesn't. The Palestinians don't want peace on any terms. They want to shoot rockets into Israel and send in suicide bombers. There will never be peace in the Middle East, not now, not ever.
     
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    What does some fat boy in Nevada know about the Arab world?
     
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    Oh, you mean like every other country?

    I mean we don't invade Afghanistan after 9-11 and we are weak and stupid and invot more attacks. We do and we are the enemies of Islam and the people of Afghanistan.

    So, we are worried about critics are we?

    And yes, the Palestinians desperately want peace. Perhaps you should allow them, and not you or Israel to speak for them. Even Hamas has long hinted that changes to its agenda will be made as a result of a GENUINE PEACE INITIATIVE - and the the actual Palestinian government? Well, they have been negotiating for peace for decades - and Israel is an much an obstacle to peace in that setting as the Palestinians.

    You love Israel? Then tell them to stop childish finger pointing. They are brave, honorable, kind people and should probably high light these traits and the peaceful aspects of THEIR religion as they reach out to the neighbors that wish to live in peace with - ya' think?

    Or, they can continue to call their would be neighbors a bunch of child eating retards and then wonder why their neighbors look askance at them? Would you neighbors appreciate such statements? Why should the Arabs?
     
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    What does a Navada Boy have to do with a few million Palestinians out of more than a billion Muslims?
     
  20. Blackrook

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    OK, you said I was young (which I'm not), but you are acting like a 6-year-old. You are back on ignore and this time it's permanent. Also, I will be reporting this post. Goodbye, Margot. It was a complete waste of time debating you.
     
  21. Margot

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    Do you think I care? LOLOL

    As an American and a Christian I am ashamed of you.
     
  22. Swensson

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    Have you completely missed the often repeated reason why we who do not support the steady flow of bad mouthing of Muslims do what we do?

    I'm no Muslim, but I am not afraid to argue alongside members of groups I don't belong to when I think they are right.

    As it is today, Christianity has more social power than Islam. A person who is a Muslim will be treated worse than a person who is identical except for being a Christian. This is an inequality, they do not start on equal grounds. That inequality is what I argue against. If it applies to Muslims, Hindus, Romani, black people, Slavs, leprechauns or garden elves doesn't matter (even if their number matter to whether I would read up on or bother to argue).

    Should I argue with a Taliban leader or Saudi statesman, I would probably bring up similar arguments as some of yours, because in doing so, I would be able to influence their policies (assuming I am good enough at it). Repeating the same arguments against Islam (I'm ignoring whether they are lies or not here) on a forum which no Muslim lawmakers visit does not change their policies, but it does widen the inequality between the Muslim and the Christian.

    Of course failing women's rights are unacceptable, but just making a bunch of noise about it isn't helping anyone, again, it just hurts those who are already in a bad position.

    Judgement, legal or social, should be passed on individuals. If (made up numbers) 50% of Muslim men beat their wives, then those 50% should be socially and legally judged for that. The other 50% should not have to be judged or even affected by the actions of the other half. These premises work for all percentages.

    Now, I'm not one to place labels on things, so I leave it to you to decide whether this equality, individualism and justice is un-american or not.
     
  23. rahinew

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    Hey Mr.Blackrook this is your other answer , but just anyone can explain for me what is the point of this thread. to say Islam is Bad or Good? or to say That Muslims are Bad or Good? Hey people we are Human, created by one God, and we are the same, there is no different between people who don't think the same. If I say Jews or Christian or Muslims or ... are very bad so what is my benefit?
    The true is no one of the religion don't order their follower to kill,Lie,or ... but people do that. and this is wrong to say that's a bad religion because of the followers.

    your ans4:
    I was forgot that I said Gospels is changed too with the hands of Jews during the time. most of this change did with the hand of Jews who killed very Christian , and suddenly change his mind and become a christian.
    you know him....!
    some of them did when it was translating from arami to Latin.
    ...
    But for your answer I just want one answer to my question:
    Q:do you believe that jesus was was praying?
    ...
    ans 5:
    every prophet has one or more miracles. the Mohammad Has one too. His Book "The Koran". who can say such thing like that in 1400 years ago? even now? At this book you can find new science that Human discovered at this time. If you want I can explain that....
    the other cause that make his book to a miracle is that He had no education؟
    so do you want more explain... just tell!
     
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    a·pol·o·gist   /əˈpɒlədʒɪst/ Show Spelled[uh-pol-uh-jist] Show IPA
    noun
    1. a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc.

    It's not an insult in any way
    Was just trying to determine your feelings concering Islam.

    As for people spreading hate, what do you mean by that?
     
  25. OJLeb

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    As already mentioned, you know nothing about what's going on in the Middle East.

    So what? Blocking her is childish. Giving up. Quitting. You've said plenty off offensive garbage about Islam. But I won't block you. I'd rather continue making you look like an idiot.

    Here we have a troll further proving he knows nothing about Islam. Muslims believe Moses PBUH existed.

    Prove he is a false prophet.

    Who was the Comforter?

    Wrong. I'm not a "Muslim apologist", I am a Muslim... lol

    It was wrong to Muslims to kill anybody over that stupid cartoon. But this is where you look stupid. Did the majority of Muslims kill people? Nope. Try again.

    More stupidity. Islam doesn't teach us to randomly kill people. Infact, it's a sin.

    Sigh... People murder people every day. It's not okay to murder anybody. Whether they are Muslim, Christian, Jew, atheist, Hindu, alien, ghost, maniac, etc.

    It doesn't need to be explained because it wasn't right....

    Your opinion on Islam mess absolutely nothing to me. Same with your apology. Save it.

    Blah blah blah wow you're repetitive...
     

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