Read It: Here's the Supreme Court's Basis for Overruling Roe and Casey

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    But certainly not Justice Kavanaugh. He gave the question ample thought while he was injecting beer up his anus and/or play raping shy girls at parties.
     
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    Tell us what you think of Biden and his penchant for children.
     
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    I haven't seen any but a couple that are widely regarded as hacks, even before this.
     
  5. Cybred

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    Ok, in that case case the state should force people donate blood, organs, etc. Where human lives are at stake right?
     
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    So does a cancer cell.
     
  7. Kal'Stang

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    False equivalency. The woman chose to get pregnant because she knew the possibility of getting pregnant was possible, even if remote. She gambled... and lost. Now they have to deal with the consequences.

    False. A cancer cell has the same DNA. It might be changed, or mutated, or even remain exactly the same. But it is not distinct.


    Its funny...when I wrote my thread about changing to a pro-life stance it was claimed that no one ever claimed that a ZEF was not human. Yet here in this thread we have people comparing them to cancer cells, and outright denial that they are human via a "question".
     
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    So a 1 month old isn't human just because they can't find a lawyer? :rolleyes:

    You didn't think before posting this did you.
     
  9. Kal'Stang

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    I've often noticed that anyone that doesn't agree with leftwing agenda's generally are labeled hacks.
     
  10. Cybred

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    Nope a human life is at stake. Sorry. By the way, human cancer cells are still human.
     
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    Sorry, but there is a difference between someone who volunteers for things (having sex and getting pregnant) and forcing someone into doing something that they didn't volunteer for (providing organs). You can't force someone into doing something that they didn't volunteer for. You can force someone to face the consequences of their actions though.

    And yes, cancer cells are human. But they are not a distinct human and never will be. Are you ever going to stop arguing for slavery?
     
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    You guys are the ones doing that turning the woman into a slave to the fetus.
     
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    Simply not true. She's the one that accepted the risk when she chose to have sex. You can't be a slave to something you volunteered for. Just like you're not a slave if you sign a contract requiring you to work for someone for a year. You have to fulfill your obligation or be in breach of contract and as a result often have to pay a consequence for doing so.

    You however are making the same types of arguments slavers used to keep slavery going. "they're not human so not deserving of the same rights as humans!" is the essence of your arguments every time you refuse to acknowledge a ZEF as human. And referencing cancer cells as if that is all a ZEF is, is most definitely dehumanizing a ZEF.
     
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    Except for the fact that its human.
     
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    Exactly. A ZEF is a human. And as such deserves every Right that you and I get. Including the Right to Life.
     
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    Not as long as its inside the woman's womb.
     
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    What makes them less deserving of Rights? The woman chose her action. The ZEF did not. In civilized society we protect those that did not choose what happen to them over those that choose what happened to them. For example we do not allow forced marriages, while we do allow people to choose to enter a marriage of their own free will.
     
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    Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death.
     
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    Which is, under any other circumstance, considered murder. You cannot invite someone in, chain them to a wall, and then kill them claiming self defense. There is no Right to Kill someone based on YOUR actions.
     
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    So if you leave your front door open you have no right to take action against people who walk in.
     
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    False equivalency. Leaving front door open =/= inviting. Having sex is an invitation to get pregnant. Try again.
     
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    Is sex 100% guaranteed to result in conception?
     
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    Doesn't need to be. What is required is the knowing that it can lead to pregnancy. If you willingly take a drug that has a possible side effect of death in .5% of cases you are choosing to take that drug. If you end up being a part of that .5% then it is not the pharmaceutical companies fault you died because they warned you of the possibility. It is your fault.
     
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    Nope, its not an invitation to get pregnant unless the sex is specifically for getting pregnant
     
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    Notice how you couldn't argue the point? All you did was close your ears and yell "I can't hear you!". Absolutely no rebuttal in your statement. Just denial.
     

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