I was talking about the claim it was a simple democratic election that put Hitler in power. It's a good deal more complicated than that.
Right tell that to Jake then because that was my point to him except the other way. The Gallup poll said the static 46% of women are pro choice 44% are pro life. The Marist poll says 72% of women are in favor of cutting international funding of abortion so for Jake to state "Soccer and working Mom America do not think like you, Dayton3, and they would laugh at what you are writing." Is disingenuous as that makes it seem as though all women are in total agreement about abortion when factually that's incorrect. Had he point some/ half of women that would've been truthful
That is an interesting comment Would that mean you would support abortion policy based upon what people say they support https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/
You said I'm an American voter. And in this country ultimately voters decide what rights people have and don't have.
Not entirely true but GOOD! You finally agreed women have the same rights everyone has ...the right to their own bodies.... WE Americans gave ourselves that right and aim to keep it...
I know what some people think Pro-Choice means....I had one in the abortion forum tell me it meant that we want all women to have abortions. I have tried to explain to a few what the BIG word "CHOICE" means but since they don't think that should apply to women they just don't get it. The word "choice" means that one has at least two options...there has to be at least two or there is no "choice". Pro-Choicers believe women should have a choice. Anti-Choicers don't believe women should have the freedom of choice. And some are stubbornly resistant to the idea that Pro-Choice means women have the same right to their bodies that everyone else has......OR they hate the idea of women having the same chocies everyone else has....that could be..??
You seem to have a meaningless hobbyhorse but here goes: It does NOT matter what women think about people having the right to their own bodies , they do. IF a woman is against abortion and wants to ban it she is as guilty as anyone else who wants to deny rights to 51% of the population. YES, there are women so stupid they do NOT know the repercussions of losing the right to their own bodies.
WHO is "promoting" abortion? NO, Pro-Choice defends the right of women to decide FOR THEMSELVES whether to have an abortion or NOT.
What's wrong with denying rights to people? This country does it all the time. And don't go with all this BS about "oh the U.S. was founded on FREEDOM!". or "I thought conservatives believed in smaller government!!". People such as yourself treat "rights" as a kind of magical amulet in order to justify whatever kind of societal and cultural changes or situations that is your preference.
FoxHastings said: ↑ You seem to have a meaningless hobbyhorse but here goes: It does NOT matter what women think about people having the right to their own bodies , they do. IF a woman is against abortion and wants to ban it she is as guilty as anyone else who wants to deny rights to 51% of the population. . LOL! So it's OK with you if we don't have the right to our own bodies because we don't have other rights!!!?????? Uh, freedom is BS ??? Sad to see you have no appreciation for what you have in this country. They don't ?? Yes, I have a preference for having the right to my own body....most people do. Without that right anyone can force a person to give them their kidney or heart...….why do you want that?
That is completely idiotic. No one even anti abortion people are in favor of forcing people to do something that has a high chance of resulting in their permanent injury or death. And don't bother with this BS about how dangerous pregnancies are. We both know that pregnancy for a healthy woman is rarely injurious. Much less fatal.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Without that right anyone can force a person to give them their kidney or heart...….why do you want that? NO, it is not idiotic. IF people do NOT have the right to their own body then what is to stop a more powerful person from taking a part of their body to sustain their own life.....that is EXACTLY what a fetus does. Your denial that women's bodies are used in pregnancy is laughable at best
In that case I assume you think people should also be allowed to put ANY drug in their bodies and to sell their body for sex as well.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Without that right anyone can force a person to give them their kidney or heart...….why do you want that? NO, it is not idiotic. IF people do NOT have the right to their own body then what is to stop a more powerful person from taking a part of their body to sustain their own life.....that is EXACTLY what a fetus does. Uh, NO, and that is NOT what my post said.....you should read them before commenting... And, even though you are trying to divert, people are free to put drugs in their bodies and sell themselves for sex....Neither uses another's body to sustain their lives..
What is pro-gun then. Do they want to force everyone to own a firearm. Does "pro-choice" refer to everything other than abortions?
Really? That's news to me. It is my understanding that thousands of people in the U.S. are jailed every year for doing both of those things.
Why are women entitled to special privileges when it comes to rights? Do men have those rights when they either sign up for selective service or go to jail? Do men have a right not to be put in jail at double the rates of women or for longer sentence duration for the same crimes as women? It's strange that women can both be oppressed and statically get rulings in the judicial system that always favors them....
Do you think that people should be forced to buy a gun or do you think people should have the choice whether to buy a gun or not?
So you think people supporting abortions are pro-choice when it comes to firearms? They're not pro-choice. If they were, they wouldn't attack people who advocate against abortions. Instead of coming in line with Title 10, PP chose to defund themselves of federal money. That tells you all you need to know, really.
FoxHastings said: ↑ people are free to put drugs in their bodies and sell themselves for sex.... AND the part you left out .......Neither uses another's body to sustain their lives.. People are arrested for possession /sale of drugs..... And selling oneself for sex shouldn't be against the law. IF people do NOT have the right to their own body then what is to stop a more powerful person from taking a part of their body to sustain their own life?.....that is EXACTLY what a fetus does.
