Reporters push State Department for evidence of Russian ‘false flag’ plan

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  1. Bill Carson

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    Our 17 intelligence agencies are at it again with their fake news propaganda...and finally got called out. A couple of days ago, the US government floated some BS about Russia committing a false flag attack as a pretense for invasion. Today, the State Department got called out for "Alex Jones" conspiracy level propaganda.

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/03/reporters-push-feds-for-evidence-of-russian-false-flag-plan/

    "State Department spokesman Ned Price sparred with reporters at a press conference on Thursday while being grilled for not presenting sufficient evidence for Russia’s plan to film and broadcast fake videos of Ukrainian forces attacking Russian or Russian-proxy soldiers as pretext for an invasion.

    The Pentagon announced Thursday that the Russians had planned to release “very graphic propaganda,” including footage of “corpses, and actors that would be depicting mourners, and images of destroyed locations as well as military equipment in the hands of Ukraine or the West.”

    Officials said Russia planned to use the video to accuse Kiev of genocide against Russian speakers, thereby justifying military action against Ukraine."
    The first 5-6 minutes of this video are gold. "PROOF" is what the government says it is, that's a quote:

     
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    I was going to post the video but you beat me to it. It is funny, and reminds me of the one where Russia was being accused of bombing 6 hospitals in Syria. One hospital was fully intact and the other 5 were nonexistent.

    How in the world anyone can believe anything coming out of this administration is beyond me. Our government lies started with Bill Clinton and the bombing of Serbia under false pretenses, and they continued with Obama's 'trust me' when accusing Russia of shooting down the Malaysian airliner - with no proof of course.

    Of course there's a more serious side to it. The accusation towards Russia has to do with Ukraine and the provocation they're planning against the two republics. They know that Russia will be forced to respond the way they did in Georgia. Also like in Georgia, the US wants it to appear as Russian aggression.

    Ukraine though isn't Georgia. Half the people are Russian and Moscow will not leave them to their fate. If Russia enters, Ukraine will lose much of its territory.

    Here's the video about the nonexistent hospitals that Russia supposedly bombed in Syria.

     
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    Democrats were just itching for war with Russia with Hillary but they didn't get it but they mean to have it now they don't care if they have to lie their way into it
     
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    If it is deemed to be useful to release intelligence information to the public, that doesn’t mean that you release HOW we know the information. Also, we should not release “the evidence” because releasing the evidence gives the other side a lead as to how we found out about it.
     
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    I wasn't sure the Russians would cross into the Donbass but our fake news US government just confirmed to me that the Ukrainian government is planning to attack the Donbass. When Russia responds with video proof, they'll say "look, see, we told you about the Russian 'false flag' and now we will have to put forces in Ukraine".
     
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    State Department said it is now "declassified". It's not about the 'HOW', it's about whether a shred of evidence exists or not, and I say it doesn't exist. An allegation by a talking head is not evidence.

    And just to be clear, our government is laying the groundwork for another war, potentially a very serious war, with some made up bullshit propaganda. Unreal.
     
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    "The truth is what I say it is." - Our State Department

     
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    The funny thing is that the Russians don't even have to invade the Donbass. The local militia has been holding him for 8 years. Why is there another 100k? I don’t understand the logic of the Ukrainian military for pulling the shock army to the border with Donbass. If the Russians want to fight with Ukraine, they will land troops in Kiev from Belarus through Chernobyl. Mariupol and Odessa are also potentially profitable areas of attack. "Why draw troops to the Donbass - if you want to hold key positions." That's what not to ask the Ukrainian generals about.
     
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    The planning to produce this propaganda video by the Russians is what is declassified. Clearly, the State Department wants that information made public so as to get ahead of the propaganda. Put another way, by making this information public, they are cutting the legs out from under the credibility of the Russians' planned video, taking away the manufactured excuse they wanted to use to justify an invasion of Ukraine.

    It's plain as day.

    The idea that we would give away how we know what we know is absurd. Showing "evidence" is giving away how we know. You don't tell the enemy that!
     
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    Kind of reminds me of Mussolini:

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    It's-a true, because-a we say it.
    Finito!
     
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    Russia has a long history of false-flag events
     
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    You're funny! I guess that's why the State Department didn't show the 5 non existent hospitals the Russians were bombing in Syria either?



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    Russia murdered hundreds of their own citizens in the Moscow Apartment Bombings, so as to justify a 2nd Chechen War
     
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    Good morning, Comrade! How’s the weather in Moscow? Looking forward to spring coming?
     
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    Yeah, and when the neo cons who are pushing for war, go to buy up a destroyed Europe, did they ever think that there might not be anything there to buy up?



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    Check out weather in Yakutsk. -32F right now. :disbelief:
     
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    How is exposing the Kremlin's invasion plans "pushing for war"?
     
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    Yep. The Russian propagandists know this, of course, and so they know that they have a weak point to attack by demanding the release of evidence. They know that the US government won't do it, and that situation can be spun to their advantage in the public perception.

    The important thing, of course, is that Putler doesn't attempt what he is planning. The calculus must be that by exposing it early, he won't. His propaganda video and any false flag attack would not be viewed in the same light if it occurred now.
     
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    I’m not saying that our intelligence community can’t be wrong, but you two are acting as if Russia isn’t the country that shot down a public airliner and then denied it despite videos uploaded to the internet that shown the missile leave a Russian vehicle and hit the airliner.

    russia denied that vehemently despite the video proof. They will deny a false flag report as well.
     
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    Russia masses 100k troops on Ukraine's border, demands NATO return to positions from 24 years ago...or else, and its NATO who is pushing for war?

    LOLOL!!!!

    sounds like 1939 all over again

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    Throw in the Sudenland, and the parallels are stunning.
     
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