Reporters push State Department for evidence of Russian ‘false flag’ plan

To decide to illegally invade a country that is not attacking you is a big step. YOU may not think they need a false flag attack to do whatever they want. But that may not be how THEY see it.

Keep in mind that the US is lining up its friends and allies to economically punish Russia if they invade and to treat them as a pariah. That is a difficult decision for some countries. The Russians may be calculating that, if they can create an air of legitimacy to their invasion, it might weaken the resolve of countries around the world to punish them. It just might give some countries sitting on the fence the cover they need to simply maintain the economic status quo and do nothing.

So regardless of what you or I think they can do, the Russians are the ones who decide what they think they need.

 

Ah yes using terms like 'highly 'likely' or 'we believe it's so', etc., is called Strategic Ambiguity by the British masters of deception. They're the same ones who created ISIS's propaganda outlet the 'White Helmets' in Syria and who put propagandists on their payroll such as 'Bellingscat' and the 'Syrian Observatory' - and then gave them credibility by quoting them in their controlled media.

It's a brain washing technique and a form of control - which is evil in itself. But that's to be expected when moral boundaries have ceased to exist. The end result is always war and destruction. So expect the worse.




*S T R A T E G I C A M B I G U I T Y*

I'm singing now a wondrous song

To tell the world that right is wrong
​

and what you thought was naught before

was just a lie that you had bought ​

from us. - Jeannette

 

Keep telling yourselve that info from 80 years ago is all about source and methods don't want to reveal no secrets now do we .. and sometimes context matters.

 

Hard to say with this one .. who would false flag who .. if at all .. This is not going into Iraq .. or arming Islamist Jihadi's in Syria .. Didn't take Russia long to clean up the Islamic State in Syria .. but can't see them carpet bombing Kiev . -- some games going on - what the real objective is on either side unclear .. but at the end of the day will be economic.

 

I did not read all the posts so if somebody mentioned this I'm sorry. How Stalin like for a government official to claim to have declassified information and when a reporter asks where they can see it he says I just told you it.

Thank goodness there is one honest reporter in the room from the MSM. There are going to be more. Life long liberals will not tolerate this neocon nonsense. We already went through this in 2003. Never again!

I want the Trump haters admit that Trump kept us out of a war with Iran. Now your great moral leader is lying big time to get us into another moronic conflict.

 

Name all those foreign wars that Russia has been in.

 

I take you didn't click the link? You didn't want to see how the Ukrainian government is randomly shelling residential areas in their own supposed country? You okay seeing a woman who was obviously just walking down the street minding her daily life until a mortar hit and shrapnel put a 3-4 inch hole in her skull? You good with your tax dollars funding that ****? I am not okay with funding Ukrop Nazis.

 

I think they were telling the Russians that we are on to them if they do something like this. Releasing information of this kind to the public has no military benefit. It only has political benefit. If government had actual evidence of this, what's-his-name wouldn't have responded the way he did. Pretty obvious. He knew there was no evidence. This is all normal behavior for federal government. I wish they would straighten it out but egos get in the way. My advise? Take whatever government says with a large dose of salt and use your common sense to decode it.

 

Too much work. There have been 59 of them since the communist revolution.

 

If the people of the Sudentenland were Germans, and if they were the original inhabitants of the lands, then it belonged to Germany. It was one of the mistakes in the treaty of Versailles that led to WWII.

What was not excusable was the ethnic cleansing attempt by Germany to expand its territory by driving the Russians to the Urals = and they suffered dearly for it.

This doesn't mean they didn't have a need for that 'living space', since they weren't able to feed their large population, but that's a problem that goes back more than a thousand years to the Church schism and the divide between the Orthodox and Catholics.

That it's not explained and looked at in an objective way but being politicized by evil people for their own greed and expediency, is something that has gone on throughout history. The future doesn't look too bright.

Yes, he is okay with that because to ideologues, humanity and plain decency doesn't exist since it's a means towards their desired end - which I assume is a one world government under Washington's control.

What they can't understand is that Russia's sees the world they envision as pure evil in the same way we saw Nazi Germany, so it's not just a political issue to them. There is a spiritual element to it. I personally see Russia as having a destiny to keep the evil from spreading and taking over the world, and in that I feel for them. They didn't ask for it.

 

Let me educate you:

The Soviet Union was an occupation and takeover of Russia by ideologues from Western Europe. That the Soviet Union continued to occupy more countries after their takeover of Russia, has nothing to do with Russia - which has been attacked by the West in one way or another every 25 years.

Just in the last century Russia was attacked by Germany in WWI, then by Lenin and the Bolsheviks who were predominantly German Jews coming in from Poland, then by the Nazis, and then by Washington's Harvard boys who stripped Russia of its wealth and sent it to off shore accounts while the Russian people went hungry. Every attack on them came from the West.

There was also the war in Chechnya with the CIA supported terrorists. The intent was to separate Chechnya from Russia and destroy its oil pipeline to the Mediterranean. Need I say more?

 

Some neo liberal cons mentioned months ago that a war between Ukraine and Russia would be a good idea since it might entangle Russia and Putin might be overthrown. They felt that without Putin Russia might separate from China, and it could also facilitate the break-up of the Federation. That way Washington could grab its trillions of dollars' worth of assets.

The neo liberal cons always get want they get, since their hubris overcomes any moral limitation or hesitancy on what they do as we had seen in Iraq, Libya and Syria. To get the war they want, they have to present it though as Russia attacking Ukraine. This is why they started their massive propaganda campaign about Russia wanting to attack Ukraine.

Russia though will not attack Ukraine unless Kiev starts a genocide campaign against the republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. This means of course, that Kiev has to start their genocide campaign. So to cover it up, the propaganda networks have to present it as a false flag by Russia.

Not farfetched when one considers that when Washington's man Sashkavili attacked S. Ossetia and killed the Russian peacekeepers as well as civilians, the propaganda outlets were blasting that Russia attacked Georgia. Also, during the wars with the separatists, Kiev was saying that the Russian separatists were killing their own people to make the Ukrainians look bad.


They say we can't fool everyone,

although it has been on my mind.​

And yet I know that what I do,

will soon return in kind. - Jeannette​

 

absolute lie.

most Bolsheviks were NOT Jews, and the ones who were, certainly were not "German Jews from Poland".

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/

"Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish."

 

We shall see.

Russia could invade Ukraine within days, U.S. assessments find
U.S. officials say Moscow is accelerating preparations for a large-scale invasion that could see the fall of the Ukrainian capital in two days, up to 50,000 civilian deaths and a flood of 5 million refugees. Russia has denied any plans to invade.

 

Ah, the ol' Blame the West First.
No matter WHAT the issue is - there will be those who ferret out some incidental, irrelevant, disproportionate issue
to muddy the waters.
So now we will find some 'fake' news, but our slueths won't address the issue of 100,000 troops on Ukraine's border.
THAT'S the only issue.

 

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SO THAT'S IT !!!!!!!
**** EVERYBODY ****

America (not Russia) wants war.
And when Europe is nuked the Americans will 'buy up a destroyed Europe'
And if Putin kills 100,000 Ukrainians Jeanette will ask, 'But WHO sold Putin
the bullets?'

 

Ukraine now has American weapons and international support. They can make an invasion of the Donbass. The "Russian 100k Army", which has been talked about for several months, has not been shown to the public. Probably again American intelligence is milking to reveal its sources of information.

All that bothers you is Kremlin propaganda. I understand.
Remind why Saddam Hussein was hanged, or is this also Kremlin propaganda?

On the other hand, when America says: “Look how the Russians are preparing a provocation under a false flag,” you can no longer fight, but simply impose economic sanctions against Russia. Now it has been allegedly proven that the Russians are evil - they must be punished.

And since the time of Ivan the Terrible even more... but we are talking in the context of Putin's Russia.

U.S. assessments find, Russia has been regularly invading Ukraine since the end of October.

 

Try to stay on topic. You accused the US of engaging in false flags, which has zilch to do with Saddam Hussein.

 

Durandal, Much in common. Colleen Power at the UN was shaking a test tube, claiming it was a proven fact that there were chemical weapons in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was hanged, but after that no chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

 

Is Aussie duped by the US's fake news 'intelligence' agencies? The US has 100,000 troops 20 miles from the Mexican border in San Diego alone, so what? The Mexicans aren't afraid of an invasion though since we let them do it daily.

 

I think your crystal ball needs a cleaning.

 

It would have been better to have said less. None of this has anything to do with my post.

 

Here's the difference in your attempt at MORAL EQUIVALENCY.
Amerca stations troops on the border to step the mass migration of people into the USA.
Russia stations troops (including missiles, tanks, planes etc) to prevent Ukraine from joining
the European Union and becoming another rich Western nation.

 

I see Aussie doesn't understand the US has military bases in San Diego that houses 100,000 troops. The point is that nobody says a damn thing about US troops on the US border but they scream bloody murder if Russia puts troops on the Russian border.

As far as Ukraine, Russia doesn't care if the join the EU (which is unlikely because it's a corrupt shithole), it's NATO (and NATO troops currently in Ukraine that shouldn't be there) and the continued genocide of Russian citizens living in the Donbass that concerns Russia.

"Rich Western nation"? Greece, Bulgaria and Romania certainly aren't anywhere close to 'rich'. Lithuania too. Ukraine becomes rich if it was in the EU? Not with the corruption they have. Never.