Reporters push State Department for evidence of Russian ‘false flag’ plan

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My point was that if the West had not pressured the Czechs to surrender their fortifications in the Sudetenland the German military would have been very unlikely to attack them.

 

NO 'genocide' against Russians in Ukraine, but as polls suggest, many anti-Putin Russian in Ukraine who increasingly
see themselves as Ukrainian too.
Russia DOES care that Ukraine is joining the EU because one day Ukraine will be like EU nations, and not like Russia
with its poverty and dictatorship. Same thing happened with South Korea - the leftists love to point out the prosperity of
Nth Korea and the dictatorship and corruption of the Sth. Now look what's happened.
US troops on the southern border are not there to threaten Mexico - they are there to prevent illegal immigration - totally
different thing.

 

Russia will invade only when the 'Nazis/nationalists' lined up at the border of the 2 Republics start their massive genocide campaign. As much as the Nazis might want to ethnically cleanse Donetsk and Lugansk, up until now they've only been able to kill the civilians that have had the misfortune of living close to the demarcation line.

This is why I can't understand where they came up with 50 thousand civilian deaths, since there's no way Russia will allow the Nazis to kill the people in the Rebublics - that is unless they're thinking of the Russians living in the Kiev occupied areas of Donbas that will be killed by the Nazis. They did find cemeteries with unmarked graves and the reports were handed to the Hague.

I'm sure though Russia has secretly prepared some means of protection for the Russians in places like Kharkov, Odessa, etc., just in case they're forced to invade.

As for the 50 million refugees, well Poland said they will do the Christian thing and accept the refugees from Galicia even considering the atrocities they had committed against the Poles in WWII. Well, that's one way Poland can get back their city of Lviv that the Nazis stole from them in WWII.

Anyway one thing is certain, the Nazis are not going to have a pleasant time in Poland. They're enslavement to the Poles will be well deserved though.

 

Russia had 8 years to "threaten" Ukraine, there were no attempts to invade. Why now, after Putin offered to conclude an agreement for security.

 

No Putin (not poor Russia but Putin) hasn't 'offered to conclude', he has made demands.
Putin said he can mass troops on his side of the border because every soverign nation
can do what it like within its own borders. But he's telling Finland, the Baltic states and
Ukraine what they can do as well.
This man has been involved in the deaths of many people - including opposition figures,
dissidents, journalists, Chechens and the like. Now many more Russians will die for his
whimsical map making.

 

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Let me deconstruct this pathetic piece of gaslighting and projection BS.

Quote - Russia will invade only when the 'Nazis/nationalists' lined up at the border of the 2 Republics start their massive genocide campaign.
Russian fascists are lined at the border to begin a genocidal campaign - like what happened to Chechnya.

Quote - As much as the Nazis might want to ethnically cleanse Donetsk and Lugansk, up until now they've only been able to kill the civilians that have had the misfortune of living close to the demarcation line.
Russian fascists have been responsible for the deaths of 14,000 people in Donesk, merely for the misfortune for being in the demarcation area.

Quote - This is why I can't understand where they came up with 50 thousand civilian deaths, since there's no way Russia will allow the Nazis to kill the people in the Rebublics - that is unless they're thinking of the Russians living in the Kiev occupied areas of Donbas that will be killed by the Nazis. They did find cemeteries with unmarked graves and the reports were handed to the Hague.
The Hague is still waiting for Putin to help with their investigations. But Putin has armed and financed many Nazis 'volunteers' to nibble away at Ukraine

Quote - I'm sure though Russia has secretly prepared some means of protection for the Russians in places like Kharkov, Odessa, etc., just in case they're forced to invade.
Classic tactic of Hitler - invade to 'protect' minorities who now will live under Nazis. Here Russia invades and poor Russians are forced to live under Putin fascism.

Quote - the Nazis are not going to have a pleasant time in Poland. They're enslavement to the Poles will be well deserved though.
Russians are not going to have a pleasant time when they re-take Poland (straight after taking Ukraine)

 

There is no need for this propaganda. In any country, the authorities involved in the death of people.
Fact: Putin has not sent troops anywhere. The United States promised that Putin would do this two months ago.
It is also a fact that Russia has the right to deploy troops wherever it wants on its sovereign territory.

The old tale: "the Russians themselves are shelling their own in Donetsk in order to blame Ukraine for this." Don't you find it funny to propagate this bullshit?

 

So, does Finland, the Baltics and Ukraine have the right to station troops within their own borders?

 

Kiev refuses to abide by the Minsk II agreement that was agreed to by the UN. They want to hold on to the wealth of the Donbas region since it was carrying the rest of Ukraine, but not with the Russians living on the land. The only alternative they have then is to change the demographics by killing and ethnically cleansing the Russian population.

It's something the Turks had done quite successfully to the Christans of Anatolia in the past, and it's what Hitler tried to do in Russia unsuccessfully.

There is no way that Russia will allow Nuland's Nazis to commit genocide against the Russians - so even though Putin doesn't want to give in to the neo cons and start a war with Ukraine, if the Kiev Nazis start killing the Russians in the Donbas, Russia will be forced to invade.

In that scenario, the propaganda networks will have to present it to the American people in a way that will exonerate Kiev and demonize Russia, this is why they keep blasting that Russia will commit a false flag to invade and take over Ukraine.

It's not far fetched when you recall that we invaded and bombed Serbia under a pretense of genocide when there was no genocide. Also that the medias were blasting that Russia attacked Georgia, when it was Georgia that started the war by bombing and killing civilians and Russian peacekeepers in S. Ossetia.

 

Decoding this - 90% of Ukraine voted for independance from Russia. Part of the resulting treaty ensured Ukraine would
surrender its nuclear weapons and Russia agreed not to invade Ukraine ever again. Russia refused to abide by this deal.
NATO and the USA need to re-introduce nuclear missiles into Ukraine and allow it full rights over their use should Fuhrer
Putin invade.
There was genocide in the former Yugoslavia. Here is Srebrenica - Muslims murdered by Serbs.

 

Here are the Chechnyans in Grozny, celebrating Putin's birthday for freeing them from the CIA supported terrorists. Kadyrov said that if it was up to him, Ukraine today would be part of Mother Russia.

They are the first ones the Nazis will face if there's a war.

 

Kremlin approved Russian propaganda.

 

There is no Nazi party in Europe.
The Europeans who oppose Putin also opposed Hitler.
Ukrainians were brutalized by both Nazis and Communists, and now, Putin's fascists.
Ordinary Russians have no say in this matter - the whole of Europe is poised on the
decision of a single man. Under the liberal democracies Putin wants to smash this
cannot happen - power is devolved and no-one stays permanently in office. It's quite
amazing how many Jeanettes hate this idea.

 

Germany had plans to break up Yugoslavia before Tito died. Since Clinton spoke fluent German and spoke to the Chancellor, it was not difficult to convince him. This is why the break up favored the Muslims and Croats who were allied with Germany in WWII, and was at the expense of the Serbs who helped us defeat Germany. A half a million Serbs were ethnically cleansed from their historic homelands and thrown into concentration camps.

The genocide in Bosnia was a reaction by a para military group and had nothing to do with Clinton's pretense of a genocide in Kosovo and our illegal entry into a civil war and the bombing of Belgrade.

Here's the French General who was at the meetings:

 

Let's deconstruct this:

Quote - Germany had plans to break up Yogoslavia.
Yugoslavians had plans to break up Yogoslavia. The balkan problem pre-dated Clinton, it actually
pre-dated the Ottoman empire, and the Roman empire.

Quote - Serbe were ethnically cleaned from their historic homelands
Serbs engaged in ethnic cleansing.

 

Let me educate you: The Western Ukrainians were under Poland and the Austrian Hungarian Empire. They were not part of the Russian Empire so they are a totally different culture from the other half of their country. This is why they hate the Russians. In other words they hate the Russian people living in the other half of their country and want to take their lands, the same way they hated the Poles and stole their lands..

Over 100,000 slaughtered with axes, pitchforks, scythes and knives: The Wołyń massacre started 76 years ago today and lasted for two years​

The killings were directly linked with radical Ukrainian nationalist Stepan Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and its military arm, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army.​

Their goal was to purge all non-Ukrainians from a future Ukrainian state. They wanted not only to purge Polish civilians, but also to erase all traces of Polish presence in the area.​

If there are no Nazis in Ukraine then why are these Western Ukrainians celebrating Stephen Banderas birthday? Can you imagine the Germans celebrating Hitler's birthday?

 

Certainly. They do to

There were no Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine (Except for the legal lease of the base in Sevastopol)
The question is, why does Ukraine need nuclear weapons now? To start a nuclear war? Tymoshenko has already said that she is ready to bomb Moscow with atomic weapons. Some especially bad Ukrainian idiots even offered to raise the Chernobyl reactor and dump it on Moscow
I understand that this is not serious, but the rhetoric is indicative. They are there in fact, as the Russians say: "they are ready to freeze their ears to spite their grandmother" (C)

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You seem to have a comprehension problem, so best I put you on ignore.

 

That seems like a strange way to pay back the people that made her a very rich oligarch! Tymoshenko became rich by stealing Russian gas....skimming off the top. They don't call that corruption in Ukraine though, they just call it 'business'.

She ought to be sharing a prison cell with Igor Kolomoisky.

 

many forget that Hitler had Germans dress up as polish soildgers and attack a German radio station to give him a excuse to invade Poland
Would Putin do the same , you bet he would hes a monster a crook and a dictator

 

Would Biden do the same , you bet he would hes a monster a crook and a dictator

 

This is a lie.
These massacres happened when Bandera was himself the resident of a nazi concentration camp. There were no human rights back then, no phone calls, no internet. The guy had no physical ability to take any meaningful part in any of this.

Another lie. Here is a Crimean Tatar learning to kill Russian invaders.


Your narrative that it’s all western Ukrainians hating on them Russians is patently false.

 

He remembered a joke: "... and the Russians also have a construction battalion. Such animals serve there - they don't even give them weapons."