Ron Paul Wants to Take Air Conditioners Away from Our Boys in Afghanistan

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  1. Blackrook

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    Ron Paul proved again that he is a total tool.

    He promised that if he was President he would get gas down to one "silver" dime.

    He warned that a border fence might be used to keep Americans from fleeing to freedom in Mexico.

    But his most hilarious comment was his idea to pull all air conditioners out of bases in Afghanistan to save money.

    Who supports this guy and why?
     
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    Ron Paul should spend a summer in Afghanistan or the ME where its 118 degrees in the shade and 105 at midnight.
     
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    Also he wants to abolish the FAA. Nice.

    Does he volunteer to clean up the mess from all the plane crashes?
     
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    It was a comment as to how much we spend overseas simply for AC and at the end of his remark he stated they would no longer be in the ME if they didn't have the AC.
     
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    That's the NTSB.... and that shouldn't be abolished either.

    Ron Paul is a rigid ideologue...
     
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    How many USA soldiers are committed enough to the "cause" (i.e. USA hegemony) to endure the middle east heat without air conditioning? This is one surefire way to end the occupation. Spin it as you please for your political purposes.

    When the USA dollar collapses, most will run to Canada, however, people in Texas won't be able to get enough gasoline to run to Canada so they will have to run to Mexico. Thus, an effective fence will prevent US citizens from an effective flee.
     
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    But, I thought Ron Paul loved soldiers! Soldiers seem to love him! Why would he want to make it even more uncomfortable for them to do their jobs, over there?
     
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    As a few have mentioned, you missed the point about the AC. It was just an example of how much these foreign occupations are costing taxpayers.

    Next, you do not recognize inflation created by the federal reserve, so you obviously don't care that it is controlled by international bankers who also tossed bailouts to foreign banks in addition to our own.

    Lastly, you underestimate the amount of trouble America faces. It's likely to get a lot worse and everything might not be roses in the near future. Maybe you haven't noticed the steps the feds have taken to trample on the Constitution and human rights? Do you know what word defines the merger of state and corporate powers? Do you know the history of Nazi Germany or several communist nations throughout history?

    I don't like that he brought up the fence keeping people in, but it is an idea worth considering given the turmoil in which we find ourselves.

    He's fighting the fight against the corrupt banking system, the corporate welfare, and the unjustifiable wars. Therefore, he is the only candidate worth considering. Too bad too many others are blind.
     
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    I think the real message was lost in the trees. There would be no soldiers in the middle east if RP became president. That's what I call supporting our troops like a real patriot. All of you that are shouting bloody murder about air conditioners need to get your priorities in order. Save the troops blood n bodies and where they sweat will take care of itself. By the way ... Ron Paul's claim about one silver dime buying a gallon of gas is relative to the silver content of a silver dime ... Which is equivalent in value to about 2.75$ at today's highly inflated silver prices. I do think that he miscalculated in assuming that the typical right-winger boob would interpret that comment in any but the most simple and intellectually lazy manner.
     
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    yes yes.. lets just abandone our foreign responsiblities, let the Middle East collapse into a chaos and see oil rise to 150 dollars a barrel.

    Being non-interventionist does not make us energy independent. Being non-interventionist does not keep gasoline in my car or feed me, or keep prices low enough to maintain my tenuous hold on middle class status!

    If it means the difference between me falling back into poverty, or intervetion? I'll take intervention. You can't eat ideals.
     
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    What would make us energy independent, or much closer to it, is if we actually *gasp* used bicycles and maybe modified forms of bicycles for very low-cost transportation, and used more *gasp* nuclear and solar power for electricity. And yes, also if we used some of these fossil fuel reserves that are closed for environmental etc. purposes.

    Can you imagine if we used some of this military funding money for the purpose of building nuclear power plants?
     
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    *gasp* people like driving automobiles.
     
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    That's pretty funny considering that our military / political intervention in the middle east has cost the tax payer trillions of dollars in war spending plus foreign aid to keep puppet governments subservient. Factor those costs in and gas per gallon costs us more than 6.00$a gallon right now. Indont need to mention the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by oil wars do I... Oh yea they aren't americans .. They don't count.. How about all the dead US soldiers and Americans at the hands of terrorists spawned by our oil motivated foreign policy in the middle east. BottOm line is that we don't benefit from oil hegemony as average Americans . Oil companies benefit greatly, they have become the most profitable business's in the history of man...all the while the middle class you cry about falling out if shrinks everyday.
     
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    We could also drill for oil in America. Is Afghanistan about the oil? I don't know but I'm pretty sure we've had troops guarding poppy fields..

    Is the cost of wars really less of a burden on the average American than seeking oil through peaceful means of trading and alternative sources or sources here in America?

    If I were an oil baron, I would want oil prices to be high...

    We've seen what other "ideologues" have brought us. A giant black hole of debt, less individual freedom, and hatred from the citizens of most other countries.
     
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    "yes yes.. lets just abandon our foreign responsiblities, let the Middle East collapse into a chaos and see oil rise to 150 dollars a barrel." SiliconMagician

    If the USA government didn't over-regulate oil exploration in and off the coast of the USA, chaos in the middle east would be of secondary importance. The concept that the USA must exploit everyone else's oil resources needs to have been abandoned years ago. The USA is within 5 years of a catastrophic collapse barring serious modification. The concept of worrying about "peak oil" relative to worrying about "peak dollar" is a no brainer. Peak dollar is a far more imminent threat. Watch the show "Prophets of Doom" on the History Channel. Nathan Hagens wins the argument hands-down. Everything else is a distant concern and driven by currency (i.e. oil, water).
     
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    Ah, another clueless soul who doesn't understand the history of Islamic aggression.

    Ron Paul's slogan should be "Hate America FIRST!"
     
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    He didn't say he wanted to take air conditioners away from the soldiers. He wants to bring the troops home period, and he was using the air conditioners an example of the cost of this ridiculous war. Ridiculous amounts of money that can be focused here where it belongs.
     
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    Who cares about what other countries think? I thought Ron Paul wanted us to be isolationists, anyway?
     
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    The wars are not what is bankrupting us.

    Is Paul talking about the need to slash our entitlement programs like Perry is? Or is anti-war, pro-drug still the hot topics amongst his fans?
     
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    Look.. there is no "American market" of oil.. there is a "world market" and all of the oil is sold at the same (*)(*)(*)(*) price. If the price of a barrel shoots up to 150 dollars, it doesn't matter how much oil we are drilling in Ameria, you'll still pay 150 dollars for a barrel of Canadian/Mexican/American oil because that is what the world price is.

    The collapse of stability in the middle east(already a tenuous thing) would be a disaster for us economically.

    As far as Afghanistan goes, leaving them in anarchy does not serve OUR national security interests and everyone who actually cares about the subject knows that. Mullah Omar had it coming after supporting, training and assisting Osama Bin laden with material and moral support.
     
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    Ah, another clueless soul who doesn't understand the history of American aggression....
     
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    Automobiles don't have to be so huge and gas consuming! That's a waste. Hell, we could create automobiles that weighed 200-400 pounds made of a light but tough polymer material and run by a smaller, much more efficient engine.

    Of course, people don't want to give up the comfort and luxury of these huge expensive things simply because they want to lavishly spend and together, destroy society with their wasteful use of utilities. I understand.
     
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    Do you want to argue whether or not we'd be in better fiscal shape without our 3 present wars, and the cost of troop deployment overseas?

    Doesn't the DOD suck up close to a trillion annually?

    His stance is not necessarily pro drug, but pro state decision in the matter.
     
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    Yep back in the 30's a couple sheep herders in Palestine decided to redraw all the borders in the middle east so as to divide populations and weaken governments resulting in weak and malleable countries ripe for colonialism and hegemony. Yep those sheepherders wanted control of all that oil they had no idea even existed..... Wait those weren't sheepherders that did that .. It was the British and Americans who did that! Then they installed despotic regimes to subjugate the people and rape them of their resources ( oil.. Not sheep). I guess all that doesn't explain why sheepherders in the middleware could be recruited to become terrorists..... Naw they hate hamburgers and freedom... That makes alot more sense...... I'm blind..... Maybe a bit ... But I am not stupid enough to buy " they hate our freedom" crsp
     
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    So Arabs aren't to blame for all their problems? White people are to blame?

    Is that because brown people are inferior so they can't be held responsible for their own actions?
     

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