Russia caught lying again. Finally admits truth about MH17

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  1. Ivan88

    Ivan88 Well-Known Member

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    Good observations.
    Sherlock Holmes wasn't fooled with hypothesai, but tracked down real evidence and real observations of what really happened.
     
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    If that is the case then the original belief is retarded as well as all who believe it.
     
  3. Ivan88

    Ivan88 Well-Known Member

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    Why was there radar chaff at the crash scene of MH 17 or MA S17 as it shows on radar?
    radar strips at MH 17 crash site.jpg
    About 1/2 way through video:
    [video=youtube;mAgTE_cP298]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgTE_cP298[/video]
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    U.S. Intelligence although morning the loss of so many people has been LAUGHING IT'S A$$ OFF over all the claims that a Ukrainian Jet that is not pressurized and cannot even reach the altitudes necessary to shoot down this Commecial Boeing 777 traveling at a velocity faster than the Soviet Built Fighter/Attack Aircraft can even come close to.

    EVERYONE KNEW THIS WAS A BLUNDER BY A RUSSIAN TAUGHT SEPERATIST SAM CREW.....EVERYONE!!

    It was pitiful and stupid and a JOKE what the Russian Media put out.

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. Ivan88

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    Silenced 50 Caliber sniper rifles being supplied to Kiev hijacker regime.
    Details including US documentation at: http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/06/leaked-documents-expose-american-scheme.html

    This shows the character of US involvement in the tragedies occurring in Ukraine and NovoRussia.

    Funny how AboveAlpha and his intelligent friends know so much, but are incapable of providing real evidence.
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    Such Rifles can be purchased directly from the Companies that make them as they are not considered a Balance Changing Weapon System.

    I can buy Russian Rifles online for Cripes Sakes!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Well, I'll give you one thing; you certainly know how to get a lot of mileage out of an illegal thread.
     
  8. ararmer1919

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    What? Lol. What exactly was this post supposed to be?

    Also, why the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you posting this (*)(*)(*)(*) in my thread??? Does it have anything to do with the OP? Go make your own damn thread of you want to talk about this garbage.
     
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    How is it illegal? And why the hell are you spamming my thread?
     
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    forum threads don't belong to anyone and aren't anyones property.
     
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    Quiet, please. Very loud.

    - No one has found a single Russians SAM or SAM militia of Donbass.

    - Ukrainian SAM "Buk" (SA-11) in the area during the fall MH17 been set. Including this is recorded in the official Ukrainian news:



    (see from 04:48 )

    Screen with working SAM radar:

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    Two days before the disaster.

    - Work radar Ukrainian SAM day disaster MH17 was recorded signals intelligence.

    - Ukraine has to shoot down civilian airliners by mistake before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812

    - Ukraine lies very easily verifiable. Now say that during the shooting down their MH17 was no SAM "Buk" (SA-11), all were sold Georgia

    https://www.kyivpost.com/content/uk...to-georgia-long-before-mh17-crash-390276.html

    This is easily refuted by the news of their own a year ago. See above news release.

    With these facts it is very difficult to accuse Russia or Donbass. Rather MH17 was shot down by mistake during the exercise. This happened often in Ukraine, not only with the aircraft (for example, hit a ballistic missile SS-21 in the civilian house in Brovary in 2000).
     
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    Not to be forgotten is the Russian airliner shot down by Ukraine in 2001.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ine-admits-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html

    Ukraine admits it shot down Russian airliner

    Ukraine finally admitted yesterday that its military shot down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea last week,killing all 78 passengers and crew.

    Evhen Marchuk, the chairman of Ukraine's security council, conceded that the plane had probably been brought down by "an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises".

    Russian investigators believe a missile exploded near the plane, spraying it with shrapnel. Russian and Israeli scientists found metal pellets in the victims and in the fuselage.

    Vladimir Rushailo, the chairman of Russia's security council, said: "The investigation has found that the disaster resulted from a strike by a warhead from an anti-aircraft missile."

    Although both Russia and Ukraine were almost certainly aware of the cause from the start,it took eight days for Ukraine to accept responsibility.

    Last year four people were killed when a Ukrainian rocket hit a block of flats.

     
  13. Ivan88

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    Point is, Mr. Genius, which you did not deny, is that the US is supplying these silenced weapons to the kill crazy hijacker regime in Kiev to be used on the people of NovoRussia. Of course to war crazies, the maiming and killing of peasants is of no importance.
     
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    LMAO! I see the Russkies have their progressives too. ;)
     
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    Who You gonna believe? President Putin or the various US regimes that hold hands and kiss the Saudi king?

    June 01 2015
    President of Russia Vladimir Putin visited the Scientific Research Institute of Urgent Children’s Surgery and Traumatology, where he talked with the staff and young patients from Donbass.
    In the beginning of his visit to the hospital Putin was acquainted with new treatment methods and techniques of operating on children with injuries and urgent surgical diseases, TASS News Agency reports.

    Besides, the President was told about the introduction of new technologies in the management of a medical institution, and among them, electronic document management, and mobile application, designed for smartphones. Such programs, according to experts of the Institute, allow parents to continually monitor the condition of their child.

    Then the Head of the state got acquainted with the patients of the Center, particularly, with Vanya Voronov from Donetsk, who suffered severe injuries as a result of shelling. Putin asked him if he was feeling well and wished him speedy recovery.

    Another young patient told the President that he arrived from Lugansk with the wound to his arm.

    The representatives of the Donetsk People’s Republic stated that almost 70 children lost their lives in the DPR since the start of military confrontation, and more than 200 were injured.

    Children’s Ombudswoman of the DNR Yana Chepikova even suggested to introduce the social status of “children of war” in the DPR.
    http://novorossia.today/putin-visited-the-hospital-with-the-wounded-children-from-donbass/
     
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    There is no question what happened as the NSA records and stores every bit of electronic communication happeing on Earth.

    The NSA released the data of first the Russian Seperatists calling their Spetsnaz Leadership and the words S#!#! and the like were often used.

    The NSA released the cell phone and Russian Military Communications between Spetsnaz in the Ukraine and Spetsnaz Leadership...again the word....Дерьмо!.....was used often and with great worry.

    The NSA has recordings of Spetsnaz Leadership to Russian Highest Level Military Brass...again....Дерьмо!

    Then from the Brass to the KGB and the GRU and Finally to a HIGH LEVEL PUTIN AID.....who said....Дерьмо!

    We KNOW what happened.

    The shoot down was not on purpose it was an IDIOTIC MISTAKE made by ill trained Seperatists trying to operate a Russian SAM Launcher.

    There is not a doubt.

    We even know WHO DID IT!!

    We even know the members of Spetsnaz who trained these Seperatist MORONS!!

    We know....EVERYTHING that happened and why it happened.

    It was a F@#K UP!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    IT'S A FREAKING RIFLE!!!

    They can buy similar one's from the Russian's, Chinese, German's, Swiss...etc...etc...etc.

    It's just that they buy AMERICAN....because WE MAKE THE BEST SNIPER RIFLES ON THE PLANET!!!

    The U.S. made Barrett M82 holds the record for a kill by a Canadian Sniper using on in Afghanistan as the M82 and this Canadian Sniper took out a member of the enemy at a distance of about 2 MILES!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  19. Ivan88

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    That's great; America makes the best sniper rifle in the world. But the US GAVE these sniper rifles, equipped with silencers so that the psychopaths in Kiev can go kill innocent people in NovoRussia.
     
  20. Ivan88

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    Why is the regime now saying it was all a mistake, when initially they were blaming Russia for intentionally shooting down the airliner, if it was shot down?

    This sudden change of course shows that the US was acting in bad faith all along, whether it was a NovoRussia mistake or the Kiev hijackers did it, and especially if it was some kind of scam - (Why was there radar jamming foil falling out of the sky where the plane crashed?)

    In any case, it is obvious that the system is lying about the whole thing. If I had any doubts, they are overshadowed by the US's habitually lying. If they told the truth, they would go into some sort of cataclysmic fit, yes?
     
  21. AboveAlpha

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    Ukraine Purchased them......just like YOU or anyone else could purchase one as long as your are cleared to buy.

    You talk about a few Sniper Rifles.....what is that compared to the massive numbers in the MILLIONS of AK-47's the Soviet's and Russia have GIVEN certain nations?

    AboveAlpha
     
  22. Ivan88

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    I don't know what really happened, except a lot of lies from DC. But, I like Kolomoiky's personal style with the reporter's questions.
     
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    Please supply me one link to a source that shows the U.S. Government directly blaming Russia of PURPOSELY DOWNING THAT BOEING 777!!!

    It was a HUGE BLUNDER!!!!

    So Russia or at the very least members of Spetsnaz are to blame for giving control of such a SAM launcher to A BUNCH OF MORONS!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  24. Ivan88

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    The US spent billions to put those hijacker assassins in power. If AboveAlpha wants to tell himself that the US puppet regime bought those rifles, go ahead.
    But behind the deal is bad intent. And that is the most important part of the story.
     
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    I guess all those poor folk in the Middle East who only wish for a job, income, security for their families
    should bring charges against America for supplying Islamic State that has brought death and destruction to their lives.

    Got FREEDOM?
    Less and less.


    Moi :oldman:
     

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