Russia demilitarizes not only Ukraine, but also NATO

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  1. WhoDatPhan78

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    "Common sense" is just a slogan too. No one can define it.

    Every time "common sense" is right, it's just by accident.
     
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    So you are not interested in any possible way of avoiding this conflict?

    Just very, very sure that we will win, so who cares about anything else?

    Our war record is without blemish:

    We won in Vietnam
    We won in Iraq
    We won in Afghanistan
    We are winning in Syria
    Russia has only 1/30th the GDP of NATO, so it will be a walk in the park.
     
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    I agree we should be trying to avoid further conflict .. and find humor in the sarcasm .. horrible war track record . :)

    Crimea and the Land along the Black Sea other side of the Dneiper gonna be Russian -- US/NATO knows this ..but they want to play war game a little longer .. try out some of the new toys .. Ukraine the latest "JV" team doing the proxy dance .. like in Syria.... see the Turks getting ready for a little ground and pound on the Kurds .. our last JV team .. things generally don't end well for the JV teams .. bit of a brutal track record to be sure... ..
     
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    Sure, just keep telling yourself. The Russian black sea fleet abandoned Crimea today. To much danger there so they tucked tail and ran. It seems their black sea HQ had a mysterious explosion/fire too. That must just be careless smokers again, right?
     
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    That's what the spooks tell the population: 'we are winning, so we are right'.

    And then when we lose, we just forget all about it and move and do the next thing the oil companies want.
     
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    Not sure why you wish to peddle these unsupported ditsy demonization tropes that go nowhere .. "Bad Russia" we know .. not too many Russia fans sans the one or two actually from there .. and they don't care about the non stop joke from the back slap pud pull or from the circle jerk clan -- and the rest of those who are somewhat interested in the situation .. who don't think shoving 100,000 Ukrainian lads into the meat grinder is a joke .. the circus gets old rather quick.

    How long you figure it will take them to get change out the Uranium Armor for Tungsten .. get them 30 battle tanks on the way .. we should have folks submit guesses .. see who comes the closest .. a good question for an OP ..
     
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    Meanwhile, in this dimension:

    Ukrainian troops training in Spain are 'advancing quickly'


    :)
     
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    The sole reason for those 30 tanks is to train the trainers. Then they will be used as training tanks for new battalions. There will be far more tanks in time though right now Leopards will be prioritized as it takes time to build up the supply and repair tail for Abrams. You can get the 60 Bradleys will also be first to train the trainers then to train new mech infantry to support those tanks.
     
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    1. In reality, in Ukraine, Russia is at war with NATO.
    2. Legally, in Ukraine, Russia does not fight with anyone at all.
    2.1. Neither Russia nor Ukraine has declared war on each other.
    For example, Russia still supplies oil through the territory of Ukraine and Ukraine receives money for this.
    Do you consider this conflict as real or from a legal point of view?

    Or do you have it like in the famous Soviet cinema - "here I remember, but here I don't remember"?
     
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    In reality Russia is at war with Ukraine.
    About quarter of a million people have so far died in this war.
    Europe is rapidly shutting down all energy supplies from Russia
    Legality has nothing to do with anything - one person's 'legal' is another's 'illegal'
     
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    As DOI stated .. In reality Russia is at war with NATO ... if was just Ukraine, the war would have been over a long time ago.
     
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    Aye .. I am afraid ya got things back ward there WDP... tis those who lack common sense who are ignorant :)
     
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    No one lacks common sense.
     
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    :) :) backwards again friend ...
     
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    backwards? So no one has common sense?

    or Sense common lacks one no?

    Please explain it to me like i don't have any common sense.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OH I think we can leave it at that friend .. no need to upset the dyslexic balance .. somewhere in the world there is a polar opposite.. where the sun shines and enlightenment is common :)
     
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    I guess common sense is so complex that it can't be explained. Sorta like the Matrix.
     
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    Ukraine war latest: Russia suffers 'deadliest 24 hours'
    Jessica Abrahams
    Tue, February 7, 2023 at 7:35 AM CST

    Ukraine claims the last 24 hours were the deadliest of the war for Russian troops, as Moscow hurls tens of thousands of freshly mobilised soldiers and mercenaries into relentless winter assaults in the east.

    The Ukrainian military said 1,030 Russians were killed yesterday, describing it as the highest daily toll of the war so far and bringing the total to 133,190.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/russia-pouring-troops-eastern-ukraine-074310083.html

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    Bravo!!! You accurately noticed - legality for one means nothing for another.
    And if you paraphrase your phrase, then we can confidently say that the Russians are doing 100% legally, because they think so. And they do not care about what the EU and the US think.

    If we talk about the refusal of Europe from Russian gas, then for the Russians this is only a benefit. Today, Russians' income from gas sales has increased dramatically - Russians sell less, but earn more from it.
    And in general, the policy of sanctions is a big plus for the Russians. After the imposition of sanctions, the Russians are literally swimming in a foreign trade surplus.
     
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    Ahahaha... EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Josep Borrell believes that the ban on a number of Russian media in Europe is "protection of freedom of speech" and "it is necessary to move forward along this path." :roflol::roflol::roflol:Orwell is spinning in his grave.
    Better read RT.
     
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    RT is Kremlin propaganda posing as news. Why make it easy for the ruZZian firehose of disinformation to hit western audiences? Better to make them employ people like you to try and spread that stuff on social media. It's far more entertaining.

    You just worry about free speech being stifled at home. I mean, you took a comedian off the air for calling your war a war, ffs..
     
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    1.
    RT shows information from the Kremlin. CNN shows information from the White House. The People's Daily shows information from Beijing...etc. What is surprising about this for you?
    I read different publications and draw my own conclusions. (Even on this forum, I show topics in 99% with links to publishers in the US and Britain) Are you doing it differently? You call all the information that you do not like Kremlin propaganda, but do you declare everything that CNN shows the truth?

    2. Removed from the air comedian? Who is a comedian?
    What country are you talking about? Is it in the USA? If you are talking about Alex Jones, then he is not a comedian. And Julian Assange is not a comedian.
    Perhaps you mean Snowden, who spoke information that was inconvenient for the government?
     
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    Nope. CNN does not "show information from the White House." CNN and other American news media are free and independent. Such media have been branded "foreign agents" and shut down under your fascist regime.

    You like to cite western "news" sites that parrot Kremlin propaganda. As that should indicate to you, we have a free press, freedom of expression, freedom of speech, etc. There is no state propaganda machine controlling what is said in the news. News outlets can report as they please, and they do. Fake news outlets are likewise free to operate because they enjoy the same Constitutional protections that we all do. Protections that do not exist in Putlerstan.
     
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    Back on topic:

    Berlin agrees to supply 178 Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine
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    Ukrainska Pravda
    Tue, February 7, 2023 at 10:34 AM CST

    Germany's Federal Security Council has approved the supply of 178 Leopard 1 tanks from their industrial stocks to Ukraine.

    This was reported by Spiegel, writes European Pravda.

    The decision allowed the export of Leopard 1 tanks from the Rheinmetall and Flensburger Fahrzeugbau Gesellschaft (FFG) international integrated technology groups.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/berlin-agrees-supply-178-leopard-163431928.html

    :thumbsup:

    Here is the cited Spiegel article (in German):
    https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deut...anzern-a-100fcfdc-332d-471e-9d1d-f78fd8c27cd5
     
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    You mean Britain left Afghanistan and 14 years later the areas we liberated fall to the Taliban? NATO is the mightiest military alliance on the planet. If the POW is having problems we can just shift her fighters to land bases. The Ukraine is winning against Russia without even using its' greatest asset, airpower. Our Challengers will lay waste to the Russians as they laid waste to the Saddam's forces. The US is so far ahead of the game that rather than deploy her existing Abrams tanks to Ukraine she's manufacturing new downgraded ones so if they're lost they won't betray any secrets.
     

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