Russia demilitarizes not only Ukraine, but also NATO

Sorry, banning Russian wasn't something Ukraine did. ENCOURAGING Ukrainians to speak Ukrainian, their national language and identity is something most would applaud.
Turning your country to Socialism would have maybe one benefit - you could join Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and China (toss in Iran for good measure)
I value my standard of living and liberty too much to ever want my country to be Socialist.

 

NATO was there from the beginning .. your claim that NATO has not provided help is simply false.

 

NATO has not been on the battlefield nor fired a single shot. They supplied weapons to a non-threatening country invaded by a bloodthirsty dictator who was slaughtering their innocent Ukrainian citizens.

 

No one said otherwise .. The weapons NATO supplied have helped Ukraine alot. is that difficult to understand ?

 

The ban on the Russian language in Ukraine has been formalized. A decree was issued to ban the Russian language in all Ukrainian media, in all bureaucratic Ukrainian organizations, in all schools and universities without exception, the Russian language was banned. Just like Russian culture.
Once again - officially, with the issuance of a decree and a vote in their parliament, the Russian language was banned in Ukraine.

 

Nothing wrong with that, of course.

 

Russian has not been banned in Ukraine, despite repeated claims
If Your Time is short

• Ukraine has not banned the use of the Russian language in the country.
  
  
• A 2019 law established Ukrainian as the official language of Ukraine and strengthened its use in businesses, schools and the media.
  

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...n-has-not-been-banned-ukraine-despite-repeat/

 

Plenty wrong -- but that had nothing to do with the discussion.

 

It's not wrong to help a fellow democracy defend itself from a genocidal fascist invasion.

 

I love what Putin said about 13 months ago, paraphrase, 'What a sovereign nation does within its own borders is no one elses business.' Just prior to invading Ukraine because, ostensibly, he didn't like 'Nazis' there. Guess we in the West are all Nazis - the nation busy warring against Ukraine's civilian population, mass murder and abduction, are somehow NOT Nazis. Makes sense, at least to Sigmund Freud.

 

NATO has provided help, many nations who abstained from condemning Russia have provided help.
My country Australia was providing the 'Bushmaster' military vehicle, ammunition and training. But we, like NATO. don't have skin in the game.

 

NATO has a ton of skin in the game .. some nations more than others .. all kinds of interests on both sides of the fence. What are you trying to get at in either case ?

 

Depends .. on how far you move the goalpost .. It can be wrong to help freedom fighters .. defending their turf against foreign aggression .. such as Ukraine..

Your a big supporter of arming the Palestinians like we did the freedom fighters in Ukraine right ? no questions asked ?

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Not a valid comparison. At all.

 

Oh really? So the Muslim freedom fighters in Kosovo = good, yet the Muslim freedom fighters in Palestine = bad? How about that comparison?

 

Terrorists are bad, Bill. It's kind of sad that you need someone to tell you that.

 

Say is that you "Ric" the same "Ric" who calls the US fascist? Ric Mortis. Is it a play on Rigor Mortis or just a coincidence? Should I tell you to loosen up with a name like that?

You know as a Jewish guy Ric , all I need (other than bagels and lox obviously duh) is some expert on Nazis with the name " Ric Mortis" telling me who Nazis are in Ukraine.

I mean what the hell Ric, half my family killed in the holocaust and pogroms... what the hell do I know about Nazis or fascists.

So you want to tell me what happened in Babi Yar> How about the Holodomor? You want to lecture me on that? How about the pogroms? You think whether they were in Poland, Germany, Prussia, Belorussia, Moldova, Russia, Ukraine, Austria, Croatia, it made that much of a difference where they happened and by who Ric? Hmmmm?

You ever see a Jew burn up in a pogrom Ric? You want to talk to me about who lit the match and what to call them? Really? You want to talk about the people who collaborated Ric? Hmmm? You even know the history Ric?

Hey do I sound a little annoyed with you Ric? Imagine how Ukrainians would feel if they heard you or read your stuff Ric/

See me Ric, I could easily call Ukrainians or others Nazis. In fact am tempted to call you one but you see Ric things change and the victims well their names change too so what would the point be Ric? All it leads to are people like you misappropriating the word Nazi and trivializing it.

That's why you annoy me Ric. You see right now Ukrainians have their country being destroyed by some pathetic mad man with a small set of balls he over-compensates for and you toss around the word Nazi Ric.

Vladimir is just another sociopath with penis anxiety. History is full of them. Bullies and cowards.They come and go and the **** they leave behind? Oh hell Rick there is always someone like me there to clean it up.

So you move along Ric. Maybe make an effort to read a history book or speak to someone who lived in a communist or fascist country. Might help you Ric stop misappropriating words and trivializing them.



Here sometimes a picture says it a lot better than words:

Look a Nazi.

 

You don't have to tell me about the shitheads running ukraine. I've known it since the Coup, you haven't figured it out even after the fake news media woke up 12 months ago.

 

So Bill how are you. Really Bill? You want to pose as a champion of Palestinians? You want one marrying your daughter Bill? Want one joining your golf course? Lol who you kidding Bill.

So Bill what next... you now going to tell me you love Chechnyans amd Ughars? Really?

Tell them about that flag Bill and what it stands for and what you really think of Muslims Bill.

Lol.

Here let me help "Bill".....

https://www.connections.clio-online.net/article/id/fda-133252

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/8/4/the-ukrainian-muslims-fighting-against-russia

https://hyphenonline.com/2023/01/04...raine-take-up-arms-in-the-war-against-russia/

So Bill you really want to talk about Muslim freedom fighters? Lol. As long as they aint in Ukraine right Bill? As long as they suck up to Putin on Croatia right Bill?

 

You clearly do need to be told about the shitheads you come on this forum to defend and he does just that and from the sounds of it Bill you won't appreciate his trying to help you. Durandal and myself want to help you Bill. I mean who knows. What if Ukraine wins this war and Putin has his head cut off. Where will you go on vacation?

Here's a hint, you might want to pass going to Taiwan. Just saying.

 

The news media you never actually consume, you mean? Because I know you call real news fake and vice versa.

No, I'm talking about people who fire rockets at people's homes and blow up other civilian infrastructure. That's terrorism, Bill. It's what your naZi heroes do, same as the Palestinians you're mindlessly siding with.

 

Oh, a Babi Yar expert in our midst. Strange how you support the scum government in Kyiv when the same government post 2014 Coup renamed the street that leads to Babi Yar after a ****ing NAZI!!!!

You don't need a book or history lesson, just go look at the street signs or google maps!

Is the street that leads to the holocaust memorial in Berlin named Adolf Hitler??? It's the same damn thing!!

While you're praising the Kyiv regime, explain to us dumbasses why they keep erected statues of Nazis in the country? Have a holiday for a nazi? Postal stamps for a Nazi?

This war wouldn't have happened if the NAZIS in ukraine wouldn't have started a genocide campaign again ukrainians of Russian ethnicity.

 

I don't need any misinformation from you two.

By the way, since you were informed about Babi Yar, do you care to comment on the jewish ukrainian in charge of the holomodor?

You didn't see that coming did you? I guess you think everyone in the West is ignorant.

 

What comparison and why not valid .. I sense confusion

 

I did not see what coming Bill, that you would try blame the Holodomor on Jews or suggest the current leader of Ukraine, the son of holocaust survivors is a Nazi and everyone is a Nazi in Ukraine is a Nazi and that what happened at Babi Yar means all Ukraines now are Nazis? Lol. You have been egaging in precisely these kid of anti semitic and anti Ukrainian revisionist bullshit to try justify what Putin has done since your first post.

I did not see it coming Bill? What you trying to pretend Stalin is not responsible for the Holodomor just some Jew? Really? This coming from someone who sports the flag of a fascist anti Semitic anti Ukranian movement? Who me?

I did not see you trying to now pose as pro Palestinian when your movement hates Muslims as much as it does Jews? Who me Bill? LOL.

You done or you want to try some more bullshit to try depict all Ukranians as Nazis and all Jews responsible for the Holidomor.

Tell me Bill how Stalin is not responsible for the Holodomor and was not an anti semite and please Bill tell me Stalin was supported by Jews because Trotsky an atheist because was born into a Jewish family means all Jews are Stalinists and Nazus at the same time. LOL also you a pro Putin follower? You know the Puti who claims to follow Stalinism? Please Bill you tell me.

Go on Bill I never heard that before. LOL. Tell me Bill...you are a devout Russian Orthodox, please tell me, do I blame all Russian Orthodox as being no different than you Bill?

Atta boy Bill. Ooh you sure showed me.

Run along BILL YOU JUST PROVED EXACTLY THE POINT I MADE to the other Nazi expert. You engage in the very vile smeers of Hitler Nazis and Stalinist totalitarian.

You can not resist proving it. Tell me Bill you think I do not know the smell? Lol

Go on Bill tell me I did not hear let alone smell you pass gas.

Lol.