Russia planing for WW#3?

this is correct^
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Ah, poor dumb westerner, miserably failed to grasp the irony of his sentence.
Perhaps I wouldn't give a better description of your type even if I wanted to.

 

From what I've read, the quality of training for most Russian troops has been rather substandard for decades. What this initiative looks like is an attempt to make a more USA-like army which is smaller but much better trained. Why does this desire translate into a desire to start WW3?

 

So is it going to be a combination [of Russia and China] that finally destroys america because as it stands ijust dont see the Russians defeating america on their own?
For a start its the motive, what motive does Russia have for going to war with america?

 

The Russians have no desire to start WWIII, but they are being threatened in the Caucasus,by the same influences which caused the problems in the Middle East. They will fight for their survival, and if Nato wants to start WWIII because of it, then so be it....but don't blame Russia.

 

What many people don't want to admit John, is that true imperialism is the total capitulation of leader of one country to the leadership of another. The US has never been imperialist because even when we have won wars and occupied enemy countries, we have never chosen to claim that country for the US, nor have we government that country beyond reasonable security issues before turning the reins over to their people.

 

The answer to that question is simple. All of the countries who at one time or another sworn to destroy Israel have not agreed to the convention as well. But just as important, would you trust Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Libya or any other Arab country not to procure them counter any agreement they have signed? I don't! Most Muslims are decent peaceful people, but the leadership of many Arab countries don't fall into that category, nor do all of those countries work at eliminating fanatic Islamist terrorists within their borders.

 

The Russians better be preparing.

Their army is down to 870,000 (down 90% from USSR levels).

Their SLBMs are not working. Their boomers stay tied to the pier.

They are down to sixteen airworthy Tu-160 bombers.

Their high-priced oil faces more competition every day. Without oil they are Third World.

...and the Chinese want Maritime Siberia.

 

Boy are you off. How about this:

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—Russian plans for military reform and rearmament have generated some concern, particularly in the U.S. national-security establishment, which had assumed that Russia would not be in a position to project much power across its borders. The resumption of bomber patrols in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, the dispatch of task forces (particularly to the Caribbean), the 2008 campaign against Georgia, and the growing size and sophistication of the yearly joint maneuvers with the Chinese army and navy have all worked to resurrect the image of Russia as a military threat. Justification for U.S. defense expenditures, which previously focused largely on increases in Chinese spending, now take into account Russia’s military buildup as well.

 

it was written by a person who had never been to a gulag and gone no further than a 'sharashka' and this means the book in itself is a fiction novel you in the West hold as the only reference, which is silly and malicious, because you ignore those that show the bright side of USSR.

 

what a nice counterargument.. and convincing to boot.
the entire West culture is based on such counterarguments, and see where its now?

indeed, words fail you when confronted with irrefutable facts.

i only speak the same langage and use the same methods as yours, don't you like your own stuff served back to you, huh?



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Are you one of those people that think it never happened? Do you have an amazon account? I was just watching this series called "cold war". Good stuff. They get a few KGB agents and even that traitor Blake who you guys house. Unfortunately they have some people who give harrowing details of their lives under the CCCP.

 

it did happen, but never on the scale described by Solzhenitsyn and his likes, which makes a whole lot of difference.

you do of course realise they can always have 'some people' to give any kind of 'details' - be those 'harrowing' or merry or whatever sort needed for the particular case or purpose.

 

There are a lot of dead Russians who would disagree with you had they ever had the opportunity. The Gulag system was very extensive and brutal for most of the history of the USSR and particularily during the Stalinist period. Slowly working people to death and feeding them inadequate rations is still mass murder.

 

and what do you mean by that vacuous comment?
of course, most of those jailed or sentenced to death would never admit to committing a crime, so what?

gulags were abolished in the year 1960.

gulags weren't meant for 'working people to death' actually, and if this happened, it was in fact an act of sabotage carried out by those who planned inciting people against Stalin.

 

You forgot the nine hundred day siege of Leningrad? It's now believed that the death toll might have been way over a million. Churchill begged Roosevelt to do something to help the people, and that's when we started sending food through our Lend Lease program. The ships would port in the East or Iran, and there the Russians would jump into the trucks and start their drive to Leningrad.

 

Are you trying to say that all those tens of thousands of nuns, priests, monks and bishops which died in the Gulag were sabotaging against Stalin? Yeah right, tell that to the Russian Church.

 

Better quit worrying about the past and start thinking about what Russia will do when the PLA cuts the Trans-Siberian Railroad and rolls up Maritime Siberia. Does Putin go nuclear? If so, when.

 

you can't read English, can you?.. read posts thoroughly before replying.

 

This thread has a lot of people driving looking in the rearview mirror.

Better worry what's in front.

 

At this point, I think it is safe to say everyone is planning for an economic collapse, which will lead to turmoil, then war.

Everyone is planning for a potentional WW3

 

Everybody with anything on the ball has standing war plans.

You just don't hear about it.

 

If Ukraine is so important for Moscow.
then, I guess what you've emphasized do really is sensible.

 

Your grasp of your own nation's history is so pitiful that I will not debate with you. There are several fairly disinterested and scholarly books on the subject written by both Russians and foreigners. I will instead leave you with several historical quotes from the mouth of Stalin, the "great man" himself.

"One man's death is a tragedy; a million mens deaths is a statistic."

"Gratitude is a disease of dogs."

"The useful idiots" (talking about the leftist intelligentsia of Europe)

"A man would have to be very brave indeed not to be a hero in my army."

JUDGING BY HIS OWN WORDS, STALIN WAS HARDLY A MAN TO BE WORSHIPPED AND ADMIRED.

 

This quote belongs to Remarque. Damned tyrant!

Dumb westerner speaking about things he has no clue whatsoever -№1.

That was Lenin.
Dumb westerner speaking about things he has no clue whatsoever -№2.

What is wrong with this one?



But please, continue, embarass your education system and media, which produces brainwahed fools of your type.