Russia planing for WW#3?

I don't think the conditioning has worked that well on the majority of us, however. Though you wouldn't know it by some posters here.

 

Hard to say. I would hope you're right.

 

it collapsed exactly because of being the best.
so the worst have won, they always win, for Evil is ever victorious in this life.

that is what your local spin doctors tell you, because they want you be loyal in duly paying the taxes and insurance and fines.
and there's no country more corrupt than the USA, this is so obvious, you can't deny it.

nah, Communism has been slandered and maligned, only because it was an obstacle in the way of corruption and robbery promoted by Capitalism.

 

you might not know but Russia winter lasts only 4 months out of the 12 that in fact are of a mild climate, and summer in Russia is hot like hell, and the WWII lasted 4 years, so it was not the weather that defeated Hitler.

 

I don't agree with this much but I will admit that the most practiced and successful system in the world today is Democratic Socialism, which, if you study Lenin's New Economic Plan, was pretty much what he had in mind for Russia. It's the system today in Europe, Russia, Asia and (listen for the sound of conservative heads exploding) the USA and has been pretty much since the end of WWII.

Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, Present Day America, all nothing but good examples of how NO system works well if it's being run by corrupt gangsters.

 

I haven't seen one damn document or read a book that says otherwise. If you have a link explaining Hitler's defeat was caused by something else, lay it on me.

 

You know it is all relative because if Russia's winters are only four months, then they have a better climate than New York City which has a six month winter, and Russia should be about as mild as Athens, Greece...which it definitely is not. As I said though, it is all relative because what you might consider pleasant weather would be considered winter weather in other places.

As for defeating Hitler, it was probably not the snow but the melting snow. Mud is terrible for tanks and trucks. Anyway I'm just guessing. What I do know is that Hitler didn't start attacking Russia early enough in the season because of Mussolini's defeat in Greece. To help Mussolini save face, Hitler had to divert his troops southwards, and it cost him the war.

 

Just because they were a distrusted ally, does not make them any less of an ally at the time. Secondly, the French, British and Americans had also occupied parts of Germany. Not to give excuses to russia. However the Americans, the British and French were in no position to keep fight against the Russians post war, nor were the Russians against the British, French and Americans. 5 years in an expensive war, all the countries were war weary.

 

1942 was an unusually cold year, the Germans had not been supplied the proper equipment for the weather. Also, you'll find even today in Stalingrad, now known as Volgograd the average winter weather is about -6 celcius, with absolute worst temperature recorded at -32.6 celcius.I picked Stalingrad which is in the south of Russia, as it was the battle of Stalingrad that was the turning point in the war. I think we can say the weather had a major impact upon the outcome of the war. It is also stated in about every history book.

 

it doesn't take a link, it takes only common sense, because the East Front took part not somewhere in Siberia, but in Europe.
the books you read were written by West writers, so you might well throw them out of the window, because they tell lies in order to belittle the Soviet victory in WWII.

 

you guys you think we Russians are polar bears or what??!
the only way we deal with cold here in Russia is stay home, but a war means stepping out, doesn't it?

 

It collapsed because it was the best? FFS, is the Russian words for success and failure one and the same?

 

the words 'success' and 'foul play' are of the same meaning in English?

 

The Russians, were fighting on home soil, where they were used to the weather conditions. If I put a European in Siberia they'll die, put a Siberian there and they'll most likely know how to survive. Just read a text book. I'm not saying it was all weather, it was also down, to Russia is large, well resourced, and was receiving resources from the US and UK. Russia certainly didn't win out of military genius. Russia lost 13 million soldiers. That's more than double that lost by the Germans. And Germany was also fighting the British as well in 1942, who only lost 383 thousand.

Germany most likely lost due to attrition war with Russia of man power and supplies, the losses in Africa, decreasing man power even more on the eastern front, and the British blockades of German ports.

 

You bring Russian Reversal to a whole new level.

 

Russian humor about how crappy it is there will go far with us. Keep this up and drop the "imperialist this and that". How many nations revolted from you in the late 80s?

 

So, this duck walks into the bar...
Oh wait. That's not the subject of this thread.
Oh wait... is there a "subject" in this thread??????????

 

Please read the thread title if you find the thread has gone off course so in keeping with the thread title (Russia)

A bear walks into a bar, puls out a fifty and orders a bourbon, the bartender figuring the bear can't be too bright says "That'll be fifty dollars pease."
The bear pays and, as it was a bit slow the bartender makes small talk....

"Say, we don't get many bears in these parts."

The bear takes a sip of the bourbon and says ...

"At these prices no wonder."

Buddah boom!

 

Actually, if you want to think about the possibility of an upcoming world war, USA is the one that will start it, Russia is the one that will end it peacefully.

 

Actually I can't imagine a scenario where a hot world war involving the major powers and the sole hyper power would be directly confronting each other with munitions firing.

 

Nope Russia is flexing it's muscle for China,
We will see furtheron if I'm right.

 

There is just plain way too much disparity of force for anyone to challenge the US. Even if the entire rest of the developed world ganged up on us, we have way too many ways of being way too nasty.
I recall something about why Russia wants to court Iran and India, and it is all about China. In a few years, we may see enough of American interests leaving China and coming home to have a very different view about how much we "like" them. Our loyalties could take a big change, since war between China and Russia would make a big mess of natural gas supplies in Europe.

 

we Russians are humans not some penguins as you might have been taught at school or told by your local media hacks, so how do you imagine a human 'be used' to extreme weather conditions at all?!

 

far from revolt because the destruction of USSR was in fact a completely staged affair for West media and spin doctors to use it as say 'look how the Commies failed and we Capitalists won!' sort of bullshiet etc.

 

Quite true. Russians were fighting away from home with mnimal resources against a well equipped army and, they suffered just as much from the weather as did the Germans. There was no secret involved against the cold, just sheer political and and fear of their own leaders and superiors against the Germans who suffered same.

n the other hand, the Russian war against Finland was a war in which the Finns were fighting on home territory and, the invading Russians suffered from the cold intensely whereas the Finns fought it as a quasi insurgency wrecking havoc against a vastly superior military force. All because they were able to fight a guerrilla war in the cold against a colossus on clay feet.