Russian Bounties: Fake News after All

It is nothing to do with being stupid, but a lot of with analyzing an information. What is an “intelligence agency”? This is a workplace whose job is to collect information. People are reworded for finding an useful information, but because all this is surrounded by secrecy it is very difficult to verify it. On top of it there are political pressures to hide or to publish some info.
So the question is – does Putin help President Trump? Thinking logically – he should. For every country it is very important how the president of the biggest world empire will treat his country. And the US is doing the same – not only financially helping to elect US friendly government, but sometime helping to overthrow democracy, if the democratic foreign government is not friendly to the US business.
And what was Putin’s “help”? A factory of trolls, spreading fake knows about Hillary and allegedly breaking into DNC computers.
I am not sure it happened, but if I was Putting, I would do exactly the same thing. And if in some country pro-Chinese party has a chance to win an election – the US government will do exactly the same thing.

So IMHO discussions about “Putin helped Trump” or “Putting did not help Trump” are totally waste of time.

 

Good comments ... what's more though is that it gets surreal very quick when you consider what Putinski is being accused of. - which is essentially aiding someone we happen to be fighting in a foreign land.

If Putin was serious about wanting US soldiers dead - he would not send them money - but sophisticated military technology .. like the stuff we supplied to the folks fighting Russia in Syria ... not so long ago .. a war crime for Which Heir Biden has yet to see recompense - but he will . already the Obama/Biden admin has been tarred with complicity in war crimes for Yemen .. good grief when they get to Syria .. and some day they will .. this is full on aiding and betting -

A serious case of "do as I say - not as I do" - which not just Russia but the world in general is starting to tire - and in fact near had enough of.. this stuff mostly for domestic consumption in any case... one of the signs of a dying empire - but not dead yet !

 

You can blame China, number one, for North Korea building and selling nuclear weapon tech.
And Russia has supported too.
That's like America giving Ukraine and Taiwan nuclear weapons.
But sure, nuclear weapons will be a part of everyday armaments in the future.
The good side, if there is one, is that major direct conflicts are less likely to happen,
the bad side of course, is that when they do, you will know about it.

 

No ..you are wrong. NK got the technology from France - as did Iran, Iraq, I think Libya as well - and of course - Pakistan.

This is the History mate. Was the west that let the nuclear genie out of the bottle .. Israel - South Africa - that was not China nor Russia .. they are the adults in this room - the "nuclear proliferation room" Full Stop.

 

I see, are you saying that China imposed sanctions upon North Korea for their
nuclear program, but the Americans were supporting North Korea?

 

I didn't say anything about sanctions ? - NK got the secrets from the Pakistani Scientist who A) was given access to and B) smuggled the secrets to Pakistan - for which he is a national hero - enabling them to build the bomb.. the fellow also gave the secrets to the other aforementioned nations - including N.Korea.

What part of China - Russia - are the adults in the nuclear proliferation room - is not clear ?

 

Please ask Wikipedia to update this site according to your information:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nor...rea has a military,7 nuclear weapons per year.

 

We won't know what they're up to now for another 30 years.

Multiple hours of uncut, live streamed footage of protests make FBI sabotage much more risky in the modern day. It's rather difficult to hide or doctor multiple hour long livestreamed footage.

 

No update needed to the site - perhaps reading comprehension is the update required ?!

"By 2002, Pakistan had admitted that North Korea had gained access to Pakistan's nuclear technology in the late 1990s"

 

I recall finding twelve references to anonymous sources in that Times article when they first published. They don't do that stuff by accident.

 

You state the obvious. How shall I respond? You post profound statements?

 

Innocent citizens get killed every day for all sorts of reasons, so I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.

Could you clarify your question?

 

I am sure an FBI Agents are smart enough to wear their triple masks, goggles and hoodies before throwing a Molotov cocktail at a courthouse. Give them some credit.

"FBI informers in the Socialist Workers party managed not only to infiltrate the tiny organization but in many instances to achieve high positions. So much so that in 1975 when a federal district court judge ordered the FBI to keep its informers away from the national convention of the SWP, the government appealed the matter all the way to the Supreme Court. The FBI explained that its informants were such senior officials that if they did not attend the convention their identities would immediately become obvious."
THE LAWLESS STATE, The crimes of the U.S. Inteligence Agencies, By Morton Halperin, Jerry Berman, Robert Borosage, Christine Marwick, Penguin Books, 1976. (emphasis mine)
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/NSA/Lawless_State.html

 

But we are not talking every day and every reason are we. You brought up innocent citizens what was your point?

 

We were both digressing from the OP, the fake story of Russian bounties on US soldiers.

That fake story had moral overtones, that the horrible Russians were putting bounties on our guys.

Responding to the moral overtones, I pointed out that when it comes to morality, the US with its military aggression all over the world, with its Global War Of Terror and especially its drones, has lost the moral high ground a very long time ago.

 

I have started to vote against directors of corporations unless I know that they are decent honest human beings. IOW, I vote against almost all of them.

 

I didn't bring it up you did and the story and hyperbole by the Dem/MSM/Left about Trump and Russian bounties was a campaign hoax. So where are all the formal retractions and apologies.

 

Speaking of morality, have you personally witnessed this immorality on either side by combatants and/or non combatants? Or are you just pitching a theory based on what you read and see on TV.

 

One of the stocks I own - the CEO is the biggest shareholder in the company - this I like.

 

I did my year in Vietnam picking up the wounded. Does that qualify?

 

There is no need to declare war.

 

Opinion surveys around the world show people trust the U.S. far more than they do Russia or China.

 

Opinion surveys made by the FAKE NEWS MEDIA.

17 not-intelligence agencies....including the one in Langley....Langleyman....said there was Russian collusion with Trump that got Trump elected. (not true of course)

The same propaganda agencies that spread the lie about the fake Russian bounties.

The same propaganda agencies that said Assad was incinerating civilians. (which was not true)

The same propaganda agencies that said Assad was gassing hospitals. etc. (which was not true)

The same propaganda agencies that said Slobodan Milosevic was committing ethnic genocide (which was not true) and resulted in the destroying of a country by NATO and the US.

And the same propaganda agencies that said there was WMD in Iraq.

Said it before and will say it again, all those so-called 'intelligence' agencies need to be shitcanned and start over from scratch.

 

Haven't seen those.



https://www.csis.org/analysis/making-america-great-global-perceptions-china-russia-and-united-states-international



https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-crisis-of-american-power-how-europeans-see-bidens-america/

They don't like Trump, but they still like this country.

All beside the point.

 

I was responding to yours: "No ..you are wrong. NK got the technology from France - as did Iran, Iraq, I think Libya as well - and of course - Pakistan.".
The site didn't mention France.