Russians Fear They’ll Soon Be Starving ‘Like North Koreans’

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  1. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

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    Haha. You seem to think VIEs are a sure thing. :laughing:

    Easy...it's the word the sheep love. I go where the money is at, difficult or not.
     
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    Where did I say that? I simply was addressing your assertion that investing in the "west " is "hot garbage" right now. I said there were other options that are easily available to the investor. VIEs in Chinese companies is an option. You can also invest directly in companies around the world whether it is South America, Africa or the Middle East. The option to not hold your money in the "west" does not mean having to invest in Russia.

    Also you claim to live in the America and you probably made you money here with some American firm or company. Why the hate on the very system that made you so wealthy? Do you think you would have had the same opportunities in Russia?
     
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    No sir, there will be no crawfishing on your part. The West is hot garbage right now....and they you replied with investing in Chinese VIEs....they aren't Western.

    Now for your two questions. First thing is you know nothing of my background. I come from nothing. As did my parents and grandparents, etc. There was a time when no running water was to be had and an outhouse was the toilet of choice, so I don't need lip service from those who've never experienced what I've experienced.

    I'm not hating, I'm telling the ****ing truth. Deal with it. Would I have had the same opportunities in Russia? You're damn right, actually more so. But since you've never been there, you wouldn't know.

    I go where the money is to be made.....difficult or not. Right now it's in the BRICS. I wouldn't touch anything in Western Europe or the US with a ten foot pole as of now.
     
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    Not crawfishing. I said there were many investment opportunities available from your brokerage without investing in the west. I gave an example of my holdings in Chinese companies. It was not a recommendation or the only option.
     
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    Sure, there will be plenty of opportunity for entrepreneurs in Russia when the Putler regime collapses and Russia suddenly finds itself back in the early 90s, struggling to rebuild a basic economy. Then you can swoop on in and possibly become an oligarch, though I imagine they'd look a little funny at you as an American trying to cash in on their situation.
     
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    You're relying on VIEs. You should be in Hong Kong. Yeah, it's more difficult, but also better protected. You do you, I'll do me. Okay buddy?
     
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    I hope you can hold your breath.....forever. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    The whole point is a VIEs is easier for the majority of investors. I have a very small percentage of my portfolio in Chinese companies but it gives me diversification. I also have ETFs in South American companies. Unless you are a billionaire like Warren Buffet trading directly on the HK exchange is difficult, but I can easily buy a 500 or 1000 shares of BYD ADR online with little effort. It gives my portfolio diversity and allows me an EV alternative to TSLA.
     
  9. Bill Carson

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    And my whole point is that VIEs aren't even an equity/ownership interest, they're just a contract. And as far as ETFs goes, you have practically no BK protection with those either, as you have no direct ownership interest. Do you not understand this? I know, I know, but they are easy.
     
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    I understand but for the majority of investors it makes no difference. For an ETF you are relying on the expertise of the fund manager. That is the whole point. Instead of having to research lithium companies around the world I can throw some money in LIT or BATT and have exposure to the industry.

    A good portfolio should have a diverse mix of investment. TBH I probably break that rule since I am heavily invested in my own company but outside of that I try to maintain a fairly good mix. Sure I am a bit tech heavy which means significant losses last year but overall I am very happy with my portfolio.
     
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    You own "millions" in investments in Mafiosi?

    I'm sure you do.....with your Russian "girlfriend"?

    Many escort agencies are filled with Russki gold diggers:). Are you using an escort service Bill :roflol:

    They doing better than us??....why do then Mafiosi conscripts steal toilets,washing mashchynas,mic ovens,and coffee makers?

    What's rubble worth now.....10 cents?
     
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    So...Bill....tell me....when you went to Dubai with your Russian "squeeze"....what currency did you use when paying for hotels,meals,entertainment, hookers(Oops, my bad?):)

    Did you use rubbles?
     
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    If you own more than 5 stocks, you're doing it wrong. A diverse mix of trash is still just trash.
     
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    The local currency, the Dirham. Newsflash, other countries in the world use their own currencies. Glad I could help. Since you're a currency expert, tell us why the Euro and Pound have gained so much against the dollar over the last couple of months.
     
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    Your jealousy is showing. :bored: Once I was like you....not a pot to pee in....but I worked hard enough to change that dilemma.

    Shouldn't you be rah rah rahhing for the ukrops? From the video below, looks like they need welders. Maybe you could be of service?

    https://vk.com/video-31371206_456265482
     
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    Lol....oh please....why would I be jealous of some "agent" here....I do well....own my business,and own properties in my state....so I do well,Billy.

    What hard work you do?....online scams?:)


    Ukrops seem to be doing a good job of "improving" lotsa orcs Bill....over 600 recently in one crack of the HIMARS....

    "Video can't load" ....why am I not surprised?

    But you know what....lotsa trade crafts, big $$$ headed to Ukraine as we speak....it'll be the place to be....whereas the smart money and brains are leaving Mafiosi....you tell me Bill,:)
     
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    They'll also accept $$$...VISA...Mastercard...you're welcome.
     
  18. Bill Carson

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    The video loads fine and you know it. For anyone else, it's a video of ukies surrendering in a T-72 tank. Their nazi overlords welded the hatches shut.
     
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    Then essentially you are calling the majority of investors wrong including Warren Buffet. I have access to hundreds of thousands of brokerage accounts as well of reports galore regarding average number of positions and net worth of accounts and I can guarantee the vast majority have more than 5.
     
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    You have definitely come a long way from the humble beginnings you mentioned of having next to nothing to judging so many people that have worked hard and saved for their future all life as owning nothing but trash. I am really curious how your personality led you to all that wealth.
     
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    And I'm glad they do. That's why they are lucky to make 6%.....as for me....the numbers don't lie. Warren Buffet is an old liar. He made his not how he claims...he made his the old fashioned way...insider trading, junk bonds, etc.

    Bill Ackman and Michael Burry both have 6 holdings. I guess they are almost just as stupid as I am.
     
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    Maybe your reading comprehension isn't so good...I said if you only own trash, diversity won't help. The vast majority of Western stocks currently have little to no upside...therefore...they are currently trash. I really don't give a **** what you think about my personality. I didn't ask for your approval.
     
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    Isn't that what I said. "owning nothing but trash". What did I read wrong?

    If you think the vast majority of Western stocks are trash then isn't what the majority of people in western society own in their porfolios trash?
     
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    Well maybe you can't keep your story straight. Either way, good luck. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    Hey, you are the one that volunteered your background story of rags to riches. Going from having no running water and an outhouse to 10M networth. I did not ask for your origin story so I assume you thought it would add something to the conversation. I simply added the final part of going from humble poverty beginnings to judging those that saved and invested their whole lives and having nothing but trash in their portfolios.
     

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