Russians Fear They’ll Soon Be Starving ‘Like North Koreans’

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  1. Bill Carson

    Bill Carson Well-Known Member

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    Not my problem buddy. And it's 10(+)M just in Russia, not worldwide. :thumbsup: Work harder, complain less and don't be a jealous hater. I've earned what I have...my system works for me...if following the masses works for you, then congrats.

    And for the record, it was you that started talking :icon_shithappens: about my Russian investments when you chimed in.
     
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  2. cristiansoldier

    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    We are talking about 10+ M USD and not rubles correct?
     
  3. Bill Carson

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    Why does it matter? USD....converted for those that don't understand other countries have their own currencies.
     
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    The amounts are vastly different. Thanks for keeping it simple.
     
  5. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia is a pretty small time country, but one thing they have in their favor is that they're a large producer of food, energy and fertilizer.

    They are in the top 5 producers of many categories of agricultural produce: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_producing_countries_of_agricultural_commodities

    Naturally the war will have impacted this, but I'm of the view that they have far more pressing issues than their resources situation.
     
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  6. USVet

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    The Russia national budget just had it's worst month in modern history. There economy is in the toilet and everyone knows it.
     
  7. Bill Carson

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    Worst month according to who? The lying ass west. Even with a budget shortfall (we're talking a month here), they've still got a national surplus. They are SOLVENT. The US has run a budget shortfall for DECADES. The US is 31+ trillion in debt and Russia is 0 trillion in debt. Besides, if they need some cash, they can always borrow it from China, just like we do.

    Any more projection?
     
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    Hahaha! Sure, that is why they are burning through the last of their reserves this year and their economy just gets worse and worse. Taxes just aren't getting paid, millions have fled, thousands of companies shut down, government slashing salaries while private companies lay off people, and the oil &gas sales which pay for everything are shrinking ever smaller.

    We are watching an economy die.
     
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    I doubt that taxes are not paid because Mikhail Mishustin, the head of the government, is a former chief tax officer.
    Salaries have not been falling for the last year, but on the contrary, they are growing, because all organizations do not have enough employees. Everywhere you look, there are announcements that workers and specialists are urgently needed.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:
    Based on what metric?
     
  11. Bill Carson

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    Reality.
     
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    = Russian propaganda. Poor Billy can't tell the difference.
     
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    10 million...what ...rubbles? How much is that in $US ....about $500:))...

    Complain less...don't be a jealous hater?

    That's all you do here Bill....is cry and hate.
     
  14. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right now it's a cool $134,000 :)

    $500 in probably another few months.
     
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    Shucks....chump change....LOL.
     
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    :bored::bored::bored: Like jealous teenage girls
     
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    Sure, the central government dolls out cash to every local and regional level of government and that money keeps going down so what do you think happens to the salaries of government workers in those places? Deny all you want but reality is still there.
     
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    You learn information from the news, and then tell it to me. But I don't have to watch TV and listen to the news! It's enough for me to go outside or talk to friends.

    You mistakenly think that we live like in North Korea. It's as if there are empty shops and unemployment in Russia, and all those who disagree with Putin are seized even on the street and put in jail. ))) I assure you that everything is different here. If you want, I can take pictures of store shelves or job ads.

    The sanctions have affected the car market - now only Chinese and Russian cars are on sale, a little on clothes and other goods (such sellers as Zara, H&M, Decatlon have left). There are no more changes.
     
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    I bet alot has changed in citizens minds after losing a million people in less than a year, but go ahead and keep applauding yourself.
     
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    Of course, a lot has changed in the minds. Of course people are fleeing from the war. And many condemn Putin.

    But many also accuse Putin of indecision and say that this war should have started in 2014, then it would have been much easier. And others believe that in general it was necessary to finish with Ukraine back in 2004, after the first Maidan, when it became clear that Ukraine had finally embarked on a course of confrontation with Russia.
     
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    Throwing away 150k killed in action while sending another 300k poorly trained citizens with low ammunition along with watching another Million flee Russia is a viable option. I cannot fathom how poorly misled the Russians actually are. Putin is a disgrace as a leader. Just a matter of time til those millions who fled let the rest of Russia know what is truly happening in the war outside the Kremlin Propaganda bubble. This will get interesting as tolerance for Putin's war cannot last forever if this war drags on.
     
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    What is really going on in the war? I know what you want to say: there is democracy in Ukraine, dictatorship in Russia and bad Russians attacked good Ukrainians to enslave them and make them live badly again! )))

    Your view of the problem is simplified to primitivism. In fact, everything is different. In Ukraine, since 1991, hard work has been going on to re-educate the population. Since school and kindergarten, children are taught that the Russians oppressed them, shot them and did not allow them to speak Ukrainian. All these statements are false. But since there were no alternative sources of information in Ukraine (democracy? no, we have not heard!), then in 30 years they have raised a generation that sincerely hates Russia (although half of the population is Russian, and 2/3 speak Russian). With such a policy, war would definitely happen, if not today, then tomorrow. And Ukraine itself is to blame for this (as well as the United States, which incites the Ukrainian government to confrontation)
     
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    I never said the Ukrainians are good. What I am saying is a bloodthirsty brutal dictator attacked a non-threatening nation. The world should no longer put up with madmen dictators stealing neighbors lands with mass slaughter any longer. Any who attempt to do so, deserve a united response.
     
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    Planned obsolescence with economists ignoring the depreciation of durable consumer goods since Sputnik has done the world lots of good. Russian economists should have figured out that American economists could not do algebra in the 1950s.
     
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    And now the Russians are oppressing them, shooting them and not allowing them to speak Ukrainian. How about that!
     

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