The part about Santa and God not being believed by intelligent adults is not entirely correct. I think believing in God at any age is foolish, but there are plenty of adults who believe in God and I wouldn't necessarily say they were not as intelligent as those who didn't believe.
eh, back when I believed in God, I imagined it as existing as an invisible, intangible, non-human-esque being
I see you are continuing to make my point regarding anti-religious bigotry. Your threads serve no purpose other than to flamebait religious people. Why don't do threads that espouse the virtues of agnostism?
I do. Continually. However a complex thought of rejecting the supernatural in favor of a life by virtue is not interesting enough. People would rather complain when I point out the Problem of Evil. Flamebait would be making non-nonsensical posts without an argument. I do just the opposite.
Difficult to have any argument, either way. Unless one is saying they have proof either way, of which nobody has. I imagine there are many things in our own Universe we do not understand,,,like Trillions of things...and what may be ahead Trillion of light years from here... In the center of a black hole lies a gravitational singularity, a region where the spacetime curvature becomes infinite. It pretty much means much of what we understands runs out.... May I suggest as far as God is concerned,,,many of us have just,,,,, ''Run out*''
The stories of Santa's finer qualities like flying and omnipresents (that's a pun) being as factually accurate as religious myths. ... on a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer? And put gifts down the chimney of every house? His threads serve the purpose of telling the truth and making you face it. That is long past time for religious twaddlists, who have been allowed to perpetuate this cobblers at the expense of advancing humanity.
Wolverine, meh , . Have you ever listened to yourself speak ? ? I realize I may be censored for saying this , but I don't think you'd recognise a complex thought if one was standing right next to you , my opinion .. and , it would seem you have re-defined Flamebait ( at least in your own mind ) > making a nonsensical post with an equally nonsenseical argument . which fits you to a tee ... now , on topic , perhaps it would help if you would define what you consider as Evil ? good as place to start as any . pun intended .
Possibly, however those those may be described through physics. To say "gays can't marry because god says so" is simply ridiculous. Using an imaginary being to define the rights of people is just so silly, that is one my biggest beefs with religion. People seem to think I am an anti-religious bigot, however I am not. I simply take issue with others using religion to justifiy their acts, even if those acts harm other people.
Right, because we don't understand anything about the universe. How about this: Theism: The belief that something come from nothing and magically arranged itself to create something, then created everything from nothing. Yeah, makes perfect sense. Should we talk about Zombie Jesus next?
Right, because addressing problems with religion is flamebait. If people are offended, there is a little red X in the upper right of the screen.
No he bloody didn't. That's like saying you exist and 2000 years down the line saying you could fly. The man's good name has been appropriated and abused by loonies for centuries. Embellishment is inaccurate. The man was nothing like "Santa", no more than Christ was like the right wing fundie extremist version of Christianity. His good name has also been misappropriated and abused by narrow minded extremists for centuries. Religion has lost its way. If you want to be honest, admit that. If you want to stick with the flying Santaman, admit that. Either way, the truth doesn't change. And while you're about it, why don't you face this. Religion isn't all bad. But when people say that Jesus saved humanity, they don't mean he saved us from dying, they mean he saved us from living like animals. His one act of courage demonstrated how a man should be. What he should strive to be. Selfish survival of the fittest is no part of what Christ was. It is the antithesis of what he tried to communicate and the example he set.
What is your science without a scientist? Tell me, how much would man have created without a scientist to create it? In the same sense, why do you think it is possible for lightning to strike a rock and create life, without someone performing the "experiment"? You think me, with a brain that can store somewhere like 40 terabytes of information, was created through a serious of billions of years of accidents? Does it not stand to reason that someone may have been involved to nudge us in the right direction?
No. What is accidental about a "prepared mind"? If people are looking for a solution, they find it. That is why we are top of the food chain. We're not the sharpest, but we're probably the sharpest animal on this planet.
^Yeah, and your argument is way better. How about you explain WHY you think it is a fallacy, when it makes total sense. Everything that exists has a creator or was created.
That is exactly why it does not make sense. You are taking items that were manufactured by humans and saying "oh well, everything has a creator". It doesn't. Unless you consider the laws of the universe to be a creator (pantheism). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy
