You two giving each other high fives for posting information that is neither pertinent nor factual does not give credence to your links. That oath that lolcatz posted is not the Oath taken by Masons. Incorpeal we do not lie, that would be a violation of the very 1st degree and could result in our expulsion from the fraternity.
What exactly is all this rubbish about , that you guys keep posting? It has nothing to do with the subject and actually displays a considerable degree of misinformation about those matters you imagine that you are referencing . For me , finding out whether anybody here has any knowledge of the History of the idea of Satan , would be most interesting . But to see the same type of trivial comment every day on detail matters concerning societies that have nothing to do with Satan or popular Satanism ( markedly different) is sad and remarkably boring -- the politest words I can find . Which is why I shall not bother to check this thread out again .
Thats cool. But usually when it has been proven in many different ways that masons lie, especially at the higher degrees, you denying everythin, tends to prove my point. You literally denied everything, which is what you are supposed to do according to the oath. The high fiveing doesnt prove anything. that is a weak rebuttal on your part...
My point is that you have never proven we lie, at any level. You cut-and-pasted quotes from a public book written by one Mason. Morals & Dogma is not the catch all policy of Freemasonry nor is the Scottish Rite the leading organization of Freemasonry. I mean you're talking about a book that was basically a compilations of beliefs and a comparison to Freemasonry. I mean no one Mason has the same opinion of this book. And honestly, Rex Hutchen's "Bridge to Light" (a shortened version of "Morals & Dogma" with opinions of Rex) is used much more. Plus I have yet to see you define what constitutes a high level vs low level Mason, and how the several variable and independent bodies (co)operate with each other and the Blue Lodge. I am only denying the lies.
Hey, no disrespect towards you Ksig But is it true that MAsons wanted to take over the Papacy? In fact wrote a letter to a Pope or something like that about wanting to take him out
Well, with his general event I couldn't know. If he could tell me specifics I could answer. To that as well, I can answer for myself. I don't need someone else to that, particularly when you know nothing of me or the organizations I belong to. You have read incorrect information and have horrible misconception of Freemasonry based on lies, hoaxes, prejudices, and your own ignorance and arrogance. You don't have first hand experience nor do you have the ability to say what is in a man's heart.
You Googled it?! Oh well that's a different story...oh wait, no its not. Most of those sites are wrong. Any anti-Masonic (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) can post anything they wish on the Internet and Google will find it and you'd believe it without question. You're a sheep.
Something about hateing the papacy and it being the enemy of the world. I dont know. I am not much of a person who cares about indulging in conspiracies. In fact I much rather spend my time reading theology and learning more of that then anything. I just know, that there have been Popes who spoken against Freemasonry.
Nothing is popping in my mind, but the only group I could maybe hazard a guess at would either be the rogue P2 Lodge in Italy or the irregular Grand Orient of France. Yeah the first one happened not long after Ramsey's Oration and in fact desired to get permission from the Church, but didn't and still gave it. I'm not saying 100% that his speech led to the first denunciation by the Church, but it is highly likely.
Lol is quite an unusual name for a Grandma . Was she Russian and it was an abbreviation of Lolita? Regardless , tell us about her as it must be more lively than this gibberish .
Believe one does not have to watch those videos to see how sick and deceived this world is. Though I know about the illuminati and new world order. The Bible tells us that Satan is the god of this world......he lives on the Earth.....this is where his thrown is.
Not any more...I stole the throne...LOL Satan...the hickory switch of Christianity... If any of you have any real interest in exploring the possibilities of metaphysics...you'll quickly learn that the entire concept of Hell is counter productive...thus highly improbable. As for Satan...I seriously doubt that, even IF there is a spirit called such, that it has horns and lives in eternal (*)(*)(*)(*)ation...or hell...or whatever the flavor of the year is now... Honestly...why are we so week and scared, that we can't just live, and leave the afterlife for the dead...
The Bible does not describe Satan as having horns and live in Hell. Satan is a spirit being and as I said, he lives on the Earth. And I am not scared or week I know why I believe what I believe.
