Serbs destroyed Yugoslavia - The Death of Yugoslavia

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  1. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    Why not?

    You said ...

    If Serbs cross the border coming from Serbia to conquer a part of Bosnia, how does it differ from Albanians crossing the border coming from Albania to conquer a part of Serbia?
     
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    Than please clarify do you refer to Albanians from Kosovo or Albanians from Albania?
     
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    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    The source talks about Albanians from Albania.

     
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    Dude, we're discussing here and every word you type can discredit you as a poster OR your sources and knowledge.
    Stop ad hominem attacks, flame-biting and discuss @ topic.
    There's not a shred of proof in all these as you call "documents" to sustain original claim "Serbs destroyed Yugoslavia". Actually, it's a completely opposite 'cause Yugoslavia as a country was a perfect solution for all Serbs to live under one flag.

    Nah, we just know that real aggressive nature of Albos and same way you hijacked our Southern province you hijack everything else.
    Now, be so kind and stop ad hominem attacks, will you?

    I wasn't putting "blame" on anyone, but as expected you and band wagon missed a point.To fully understand what I was trying to say you must have once felt like a Yugoslav.As an ethnic Slovene, Stane Dolanc was a Minister of the Interior in YU government, it was his duty to deal with separatism and foreign destructive elements in our country.

    It is your nation, Albanians, who worked all the time to get a "Kosovo RepubLJik" which supposed to be a second step towards secession.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Albania

    The term Greater Albania or Ethnic Albania as called by Albanians , refers to an irredentist concept of lands outside the borders of the Republic of Albania which are considered part of a greater national homeland by most Albanians.
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    Ethnic Albania is a term used primarily by Albanian nationalists to denote the territories claimed as the traditional homeland of the ethnic Albanians. These territories include Albania, Kosovo, Preševo, Medveđa and Bujanovac in Serbia, western parts of Republic of Macedonia and parts of Montenegro (Podgorica, Ulcinj, etc.) Parts of the Epirus region of Greece referred to by Albanians as Çamëria are also sometimes included in this definition.According to the Gallup Balkan Monitor 2010 report, the idea of a Greater Albania is supported by the majority of Albanians in Albania (63%), Kosovo (81%) and the Republic of Macedonia (53%)."

    Excuse me?
    British defense secretary George Robertson during parliamentary testimony:'Up until (January 1999) the KLA were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo than the Yugoslav authorities had been.'
    http://books.google.com.au/books?id...an the Yugoslav authorities had been”&f=false
     
  6. LenaSrb

    LenaSrb New Member

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    How can Albanian identify "true" or "false" German?! Funny! You're lucky that another German, Ostap Bender, is not posting currently :mrgreen:
     
  7. LenaSrb

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    Take your own advice once again, especially about parroting :mrgreen:.
    I don't care about your opinion on my posts or any other poster's posts, especially my nation or anything similar we're here to discuss, this is forum...that's all.
     
  8. DaVinci

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    Both of them :D

    There is nothing made up about the Republic of Kosovo . Denying Swabian expellings and massive rapes carried out by Russians in East Prussia makes more than a hypocrite and demagog if you !
    Communism(in ex DDR) must have left eternal trauma on your mind(which can be easily detected based upon your picture on AV - full of dark nuances) and combined with structural deforming of your genome(in ex-East Prussia) result of massive rapes by Russians have finally confused your perception... you accuse Britons, and show sympathy for perpetrators(Russians) !
     
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    I partially disagree with you .

    As for serbs , who are so notorious liars, and declared Belgrade as a first Jewish free city..

    http://books.google.com/books?id=Fz...#v=onepage&q=belgrade judenfrei first&f=false

    ... it is more than a shame to make comparisons about some Jews who might have been deported from Kosovo compared with thousands of them killed in serbia. Furthermore, Albanians protected Jews more than any other country in Europe (which was under Nazi occupation).

    "At the start of the war, the Jewish population of Albania numbered about 200. As persecution increased, Jews from other European countries sought refuge in Albania. By war’s end, there were some 2,000 Jews living there, making it the only nation in Europe where the Jewish population increased during those years."

    "He then relayed the story of a German-born Jewish professor who escaped to the U.S. after securing a new passport in Albania."

    ”I think you should know the name of the professor,” he said. ”It was Albert Einstein.”

    http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/press/albanian-muslims-sheltered/

    During siege of Sarajevo, Jewish cemetery was mined and destroyed by serbs :

    "During the siege of Sarajevo, the Jewish cemetery was in the front line of fighting and was used as an important artillery position by Bosnia Serbs. The damage to the cemetery and nearby buildings was mostly caused by returned fire from the city below. The Bosnian Serbs extensively mined the cemetery before their withdrawal. Last year, Yechiel Bar-Chaim, representative of the Joint Distribution Committee, reported that "undoubtably there was considerable destruction due to exchange of fire. But the cemetery is so extensively mined that one can only look from the outside which isn't very satisfactory." From below, you could see the extensive damage to the buildings surrounding the cemetery, including enormous holes in apartment buildings, etc. Jacobo Finci, head of Benevolencija, the local Jewish social services organization which was among the most respected humanitarian aid societies during the siege, described the recent history of the site. He said "unfortunately, in recent years the cemetery gained worldwide fame as the place from which Sarajevo was attacked the most and from which snipers killed innocent citizens as a part of daily routine."
    http://www.isjm.org/Links/Sarajevo.htm

    "Operation Orientalis " In August 1991, the Jewish cemetery and Jewish community center in Zagreb, Croatia were bombed. The individuals responsible for the bombing were later found to be members of the Serb-controlled Yugoslav Air Force intelligence service.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Orientalis
     
  10. DaVinci

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    The irony in action ! You talking about Jews? Huh, this is something "new" !
    Albanians in the Republic of Kosovo and those from Albania share the same culture, language and history. Furthermore, unification of school text books has took place, between two countries !
    But you as a Russian grandson can not understand that !
     
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    I like the picture in my avatar. There is nothing traumatic in it ... or in me.

    Structural deforming of genome? Isn't this a bit racist?
     
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    Albanians made Pristina a Jewish free city not long ago, didn't they?
     
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    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: PERSONAL INSULT >>>

    Stop playing on "victim card" - it is another distinctive feature of serb mentality ! By doing that, you try to put the opposite side on the guilty bench.... it is complete useless, consumed aversively by your compatriots !
    There is a lot of evidence on them ! You did destroyed Yugo, by trying to create "Greater serbia", the beginning of which was SANU Memorandum ! Read it, all documents provided above are part of psychopaths from your nation - which represent the majority of population in serbia!




    Now, be so kind and stop ad hominem attacks, will you?
    Again accusing me of verbal attacks toward you ? What's next ? YOu will accuse me for being "... intimidated by a side of serbian female "? This sounds so familiar to me !
    No hijackings, simply we got back what was taken from us !


    I think that 1981 protests were organized by serbs( which served as decoy and a trap for Albanian nationalists ) , in order of sending special forces in Kosovo, which served later for easier annexing of Kosovo, and depriving from it's authonomy !
    We did get a Republic, a country.... no matter how you call it ! I like the way you serbs try to use pejoratives and have stereotypes against us ! The Republic of Kosovo it's the best response to that !
    Further disintegration of serbia with Sandzak and Hungarian Vojvodina( occupied by serbs) getting full-scale of autonomy , Shumadija too.... with an option of seceding from unnatural union with serbia, will finally stabilize Balkan !


    You serbs putted so much efforts on creating "Greater serbia" which resulted as an epic fail, should stop, immediately spreading lies about some Greater Albania! There will be only one natural Albania!


    What did you said ?

    I fully support KLA actions in which collaborators and traitors were killed ! KLA comprised from freedom fighters who fought against serbia's terroristic military and paramilitary units, making possible to send them out of our Republic (Kosovo).
    KLA created a nucleus which generated the future Army of Kosovo, and it served like a nucleus !
     
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    As I said , it is a reflection of your inner world ! Ever heard of "transgenerational trauma"

    So, according to you Britons are responsible for massive rapes of German females by the side of Red Army !
     
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    Why does it have to be new? I am talking about different people, while you seem to focus on Serbs a lot and mainly mention other peoples in this context. Not everybody has a similar fixation like you seem to have.

    And part of this "culture" is driving out Jewish people?

    So you are originally from Albania?
     
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    The difference is, she does not complain about someone quoting from wiki, but you do. Isn't this hypocrisy on your side?
     
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    Oops , now you made me worried ! :p
     
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    Advice was given to you... for free !:D You are not grateful at all !
    Frankly , my enemy, I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what you think or care about my posts... in or outside this forum !
     
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    You are talking rubbish all the time !

    Beg your pardon ?!?

    I am from the Republic of Kosovo :D
     
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    Oh, so now you can notice the difference ? That's a huge step by you ! Congratulations ! :D
     
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    You prove her correct again, every word you type can discredit you as a poster and this happens here ...

    These are simply the forum rules and general manners when talking to a lady.

    You can not even write "Serbia" when quoting "Greater Serbia", this is really juvenile.

    Taken from you? Did you take a look at historical population development in Kosovo? When has Kosovo ever been Albanian or when has there been an Albanian majority there in history reaching back more than 100 years? Even Israelis have better claims from history. Not that this matters much, but "taken away" is rather strange ...

    Couldn't they have saved the trouble of organizing protests and simply have sent special forces there?

    Wait a moment, you blame other people to use stereotypes?

    The Hungarians in Vojvojdina would have to hurry up a bit, didn't you say, the got silently ethnically cleansed already?

    The borders of "natural Albania" are the same as the borders from "Greater Albania"?

    This makes you a terrorist supporter.
     
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    No. Is it a Jewish concept? An Albanian one?

    No, Britons are responsible for making up such stories.
     
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