Seriously...What would it take for a GOD to prove itself?

We can do that now.

AboveAlpha

 

But that is the issue.

Just because a person might have a supposed GOD demonstrate it's ability...it still does not mean that entity is a GOD.

The most basic and clear definition of GOD...not a GOD or GODS....but GOD....does not exist.

AboveAlpha

 

Absolutely... "truth" being defined as "I am the way, the Truth, and the life." Now I wonder where that was stated?

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Now I have to agree with absolutely no uncertainty, that what you have stated above certainly shows the uncertainty that you have in mind regarding the subject of God.

 

Then welcome to Godhood!

But good luck surviving the vacuum decay at the end of the Universe!

 

Having POWER over me does not lend sufficient evidence.

Given the size of the Universe and given the high probability of an existing Multiverse....it is safe to assume there are many Highly Advanced Races existing and a race that is thousands or Millions of years in advance of Human's would easily seem to be GOD'S to us.

But that does not mean they are.

There exists a probability that such highly advanced beings have visited Earth in the past and might be resonsible for helping Human's develop systems of Science and Mathematics as well as Morality.

There is also a probability existing that an existing GOD is not a single entity at all...but rather something so alien in it's nature Haman's have no understanding of it's reality.

AboveAlpha

 

Of COURSE I am uncertain!!!

And you should be as well.

I am an Agnostic as anyone who follows the Scientific Method would be.

No matter what anyone tells you and no matter what anyone believes there is one overall GLARING REALITY.

That reality being NO ONE HAS EVEN THE TINIEST BIT OF VIABLE EVIDENCE OR PROOF THAT WOULD BACK THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD!!!

No one.

This does not mean a GOD does not exist.

It is simply a FACT.

AboveAlpha

 

As I have told you and a few others....I have had several experiences that I cannot forget or deny and although the majority of such experiences I cannot discuss here the one I can discuss....that being I and several workers saw during renovations to my current home...we saw a Ghost.

I call it a Ghost but it could have been something else....but several of us SAW the torso of a Female and we could see right through her.

This happened while we were doing demo work upon what is known as a COLD STORAGE ROOM as in the 17th to 19th Century New England....homes would have these rooms to store Food such as Potatos, Cabbage, Carrots...etc...through the winter...and as well these rooms doubled as BODY STORAGE AND VEIWING ROOMS as these rooms are where people would place their dead family members before burial.

I had never before believed in Ghosts but I cannot deny what I saw and I was not the only one who saw her.

AboveAlpha

 

Yeah, yeah... Humans are always leaving stuff behind.

Oh, well if you believe in ghosts maybe you'll believe this. My family leaves behind psychic echoes of ourselves in the homes where we live, even though we're not dead yet, and they slowly fade away over weeks when we're gone from them.


But back to how to prove an entity is a God, what if such a God offered to let you build the next Universe? Tell me that isn't a God.

 

One day I'm going to have to track down AboveAlpha so he can tell me the secret about all these entities that keep bothering him!

 

A god could prove itself simply by giving me all of its powers, without retaining any for itself so that I could hold the whole universe in my hand. And I promise not to kill the previous god if it worships me. But if it doesn't then I would toss it into the lake of fire where it would be tormented for eternity.

 

Well here is the thing...although any Entity being capable of doing that would definitely fit the GOD description it would still have to be able to KNOW EVERYTHING IN THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE FOREVER!!

The thing is the only way that is possible is if such a GOD were to know the exact position of every Particle in the Universe and Multiverse at all times or even if they knew it at one time they could accurately predict all future positions and actions and reactions of all possible future events.

Just to be able to do this and store such data A UNIVERSE AND MULTIVERSE SIZED DATA STORAGE CAPACITY WOULD BE REQUIRED!!!

AboveAlpha

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Hey....I was not the only person that saw her.

I never believed in such things prior to that but as I have since read into it the Physics and Mathematics show this is possible.

The OTHER thing you are talking about is just something I was read into....I have not had any issues with such things.

AboveAlpha

 

Yeah...the more we talk about this the more rediculous it becomes as a GOD as so advertized by any ancient religious text has such a low probability of existing....that being 1 in 10^150th....which at that point maked it a STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY....that it is not even worth talking about.

AboveAlpha

 

Sure, I will let you build the next universe but first you will have to die. Trust me. Do I detect a sliver of doubt? If you believe in God why don't you think God is answering you right now? And you can't cheat because I'm God and know if you're faking it.

 

You keep falling back on that word... "viable". I have previously shown to you that the 'Bible' is a "viable" evidence. I also explained to you why it is a 'viable evidence'. Did you not read that posting?

"vi•a•ble
adj. 1. capable of living.
2. (of a fetus) sufficiently developed to be capable of living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus.
3. having the ability to grow or develop: a viable country; a viable seedling.
4. practicable; workable: a viable alternative.

5. capable of winning elections: a viable political party. "

Does the terms "practicable' and "workable" imply that the 'Bible' is workable or practicable for all people? Of course not. Why? Because some people don't put any confidence in the 'Bible'. People such as yourself. Anyway, I love it when people use terms like 'viable' as it makes it job so easy.

 

I'd say tomorrow he should send Jesus to the white house, let him slip in over the fence, across the lawn, past guards and dogs, into the east room, up the stairs into the first family's quarters and announce, "I'm here in the flesh, Jesus of Nazareth has come to save your souls."

And about that same time have a whole flock of bird dogs fly over and a 350 lb. woman throw her left teat over her right shoulder and squirt buttermilk up her arse.

 

Well, what if the Universe and Multiverse already acts as a storage capacity? Why make a duplicate if the information is already there? The only problem would be recall, which means such an entity has conquered the Arrow of Time problem, and getting to a location problem.

Maybe all possible values of each particle exist in a span like a combination lock? Just dial up the number you want and see what happens.

Oh, don't worry I believe you about the ghost. I've seen a ghost too, bet you didn't know that. I saw an old lady in the window of the house next door, that we bought for my sisters to live in and the house was empty at the time, and she was frowning because the landscaper we hired had ripped out a tree in the garden.

As for the other thing... Okay, so nothing I can know about then. Well it's good to know you don't have any issues with such things... As far as you know!!!

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Oh, well everyone dies sometime... I may just come back and take you up on that offer! Or, harvest your soul!!!

 

Aren't people doing that everyday? lol

 

Obviously not. You're welcome.

 

Of course they are. It's called sex.

 

they would have to how me they are above petty emotions like jealousy, vengeance, ect....

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Yeah!

I have always gotten a GOOD LAUGH over the Biblical Story of how GOD asked Abraham to kill one of his son's just to show his FAITH!!!

In the Bible and in the Koran as millions of Muslim's re-enact the Concubine of Abraham desperately running back and forth between two sand dunes or hills on the Saudi plain of Arafat looking for water which mystically bubbles up as this is supposedly GOD showing mercy.....BUT ANYHOW.....

Think about this......

Abraham is told by GOD to kill one of his son's to DEMONSTRATE HIS FAITH IN GOD.

Now....Abraham supposedly is about to kill his son and GOD stops him as a reward for demonstrating his complete FAITH and OBEDIANCE.

This is supposed to be a GOOD THING??????

I think not!!

If Abraham truly was a good and decent man he would HAVE REFUSED TO KILL HIS SON!!!

After all....I don't care WHO is telling me what to do....I would NEVER kill my own son to demonstrate ANYTHING!!!

It makes much more sense that a real GOD would reward Abraham for REFUSING to kill his own son.

But....those who are Religious don't seem to agree.

Makes me PROUD to say I AM NOT RELIGIOUS!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Without a woman. On TV, instantly with unimpeachable witnesses. Like Obama, Boehner the Pope and Lady Gaga, all transported from wherever they were


Show up on to every living person and lasso the moon, like in Bruce Almighty

Plenty of other stuff. Stuff totally beyond our present tech. I doubt if anyone would argue.

 

Oh God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”
Abe says, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”
God say, “No.” Abe say, “What?”
God say, “You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin’ you better run”
Well Abe says, “Where do you want this killin’ done?”

And you'd do the same. This is GOD man, not our God but THEIR God and the God of the Prophets very definitely WAS God, no doubts, no argument.

 

As an Atheist I would say to prove this being or that is a deity you must show its not just a really powerful alien using science any sufficiently advanced being would be seen as a god or goddess by a primitive one. Picture if a modern tank crew went back to early stone age times with the tank odds are they could say they were gods and a lot of people would fall for it.

This is THE BOOMER see we can wipe out your village from over hear hurling lighting and thunder now bow before us petty mortals!

So if your a deity proving that to me would be kind of hard.

 

NO!!!!

IF I WAS ABRAHAM I WOULD NOT DO THE SAME!!!!

I would say to such a GOD.....Look....you can kill me if you want but there is NO WAY I WILL KILL MY SON!!

This is how I know this story is written by MAN....because a GOD could never do something that F@#%ED UP!!

And let me tell you if a GOD did do this....I WANT NO PART OF ANY SUCH GOD!!!

AboveAlpha