Seriously...What would it take for a GOD to prove itself?

I know.

Some members here posted on other Topics they had scientific evidence of the existence of a GOD.

So I created a Topic that asked such people to post this evidence.

Nothing.

AboveAlpha

 

Well...because we know and have proven Forward Time Travel is possible.

Google Atomic Clocks one in space on on Earth.

An entity that sprouted wings on my body....again....is that a GOD....or could it simply be a Highly Advanced Alien Entity?

It's a tough question.

If a GOD exists....it is most likely nothing like anything advertized in any Ancient Religious Text.

After all...why would such a GOD need people to worship it?

Why would a GOD allow such suffering on Earth upon such a massive scale?

If such a GOD existed....I would FIRE IT'S A$$!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Well, if there is a god, it's obvious that he doesn't really intervene in our affairs. I'm pretty sure that is the idea behind "free will." We choose our own path and our own destiny, and "God" is just an observer.

 

What are you talking about? When did I argue for what the Bible said?

Qchan, you didn't even know what year(s) the Gospels claim Jesus was born in. I think if anybody is biting off more than they can chew, it's the person ignorant of their own savior's narrative.

 

Christians, though, are always talking about god intervening. He finds car keys, cures cancer, gets us promotions, makes the crippled walk (I've seen it on TV!), makes us speak gibberish - when we have a paying audience (I've seen it on TV!), stops snakes biting us, etc etc. They also spend lots of time thanking him for all the intervening he does - right down to growing the vegetables on your plate! He's just amaze-balls!

So amaze-balls, he can actually replicate natural events so closely that they seem like .... natural events!

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comedy gold !

 

Then that negates the concept of GOD's PLAN...or some grand plan...and if that's the case....we have no use for a GOD.

AboveAlpha

 

He wins football games too!

 

I think heaven is what concerns most people. I remember when I was a little kid and I would question myself about the existence of God, and I would be kind of frightened about hell, you know?

 

Did you not admit that Jesus was born during the time of Herod the Great? Well, the bible mentions this. You seem to agree with it.

 

of course. he's like, the king of intervention!

and really, it's great to know he'll get you that job promotion - even though you may not actually be the best person for the job. or will cure your cancer even if you happen to be an arsehat. he could be off doing pointless stuff, like feeding skeletal starving kids, or halting an ebola outbreak, or ending wars, or teaching us to take better care of our only home, earth. so yeah, amaze-balls intervening!

 

Well...Religion is a system of control.

You do what you are told to do and believe what your told and donate money...you go to Heaven.

You don't....they tell you you are going to Hell.

The concepts of the two make no sense at all.

AboveAlpha

 

if someone named jesus was born during the time of Herod the Great, how does that impact (in any way at all) on the supernatural claims? I realise you've blocked me, bless your heart, but someone else might reiterate this question

 

I agree. I don't believe in organized religion. I used to live right next to a church, and some of those church people are quite rude! They block your driveway, they throw their trash around. I talked to one woman once about an oil spill or something that happened, and she told me that we shouldn't worry about it because God would clean it up. It's like they think if they just go to mass on Sunday, they get a free ticket into heaven and they act like arses the rest of the time.

 

ever just so!

they must store one on one side of the brain, and the other on the opposite side - to avoid having them ever coincide in the same thought bubble.

 

No, I said that the Gospels have two separate dates for his birth. One of them was during the time of Herod the Great, the other was ten years later during the census of Quirinius.

 

No, but I do expect you to have some common sense and acknowledge what is well documented in the history books.

 

If any of the above had the attributes etc of a universe creating eternal God its shape form or physical makeup (or non physical make up) would have absolutely no bearing on the validity of its divinity etc. Scripture hints the Hebrew/christian God has no physical form we would recognize. I beleive that is why God sends messengers* to interact physically with man. * Angels, Jesus, etc. Why does physical form of God mean so much to you? Btw, a serious theory of secular science claims your 'goblins, ghosts, pixies, fairies, flying teapots, and spaghetti monsters really do exist. So it seems you have been betrayed by your 'trust' in science eh? And that crank if true is poetic justice!

reva

 

Says the anonymous guy on the Internet....

 

You sure about that?
Source: http://www.biblehistory.net/newsletter/quirinius.htm

 

The sad thing is you and AA are believing a lie. I am a Christian (non-preaching), minister that decided to define my ministry via nonprofit humanitarian missions instead of the trappings of a (Preaching) church etc. I know many good people in not the most christian of churches. The reason I say you and AA are stating lies is legion, lol relax I was lying. A few problems other than the nonfactual comment was you and AA's excessive use of all 'absoulte' encompassing statements aka a logical fallacy. Blanket statements are common in the criticism of religious belief. Racists and bigots use the same tactics as well. Example; 'all N are the same' or 'I hate all of them because of ..'babble babble babble..'. Including an entire group is becomes bigoted babble because a general blanket statement is a fallacy. The owner of the statement employs a generalized statement in an attempt to validate the bigotry and hate they feel towards a group etc. The Jewish people experienced the same kind of bigoted evil on a much larger and intense scale. But all journeys begin with one step.

reva

 

Why not just complain to the priest of the church? Doesn't seem that difficult to do if you think about it.

 

AboveAlpha…… if a near death experiencer was tested after the NDE and it was found that his DNA had been altered…. would this imply that his experience involved contact with life forms with technology beyond our own?

God….. is a word….. we humans will automatically read either too much…… or too little…. into every word that we read or speak…….. but altering DNA seems to be "Godlike" technological capability.

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Lee Stoneking Addresses UN General Assembly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYLL_kEptFA
Evangelist Lee Stoneking ~ United Nations General Assembly Address

 

Oh really? Why don't you quote just ONE of my posts where I told a "lie." I have made no "all encompassing" statements. If you had read my post, you would realize that I said "some," if that's the statement you are referring to as a "lie."

Sorry Mr. Reverend, I believe that it is you who has fallen for a boatload of lies.

 

It doesn't matter. I don't know their names. Besides, should I even have to do that? Aren't these supposed to be good church-going folks? WTH? You would think that when you ask them to move their vehicle so that you may leave your driveway, that they would be kind and say "sure, no problem," but let me tell you something, some of them are extremely rude people.

 

Hey Qchan a common sense answer! I think you and I both know, wait I better not put words in your mouth so I will say I worked all over the USA and parts across both oceans while I worked as a journeyman ironworker by day and took night classes to earn my hanging paper. The reason I am saying that is that I have not had the kinds of bad experiences with Christians our fellow members have. I should mention I was an atheist until early adulthood, rode a harley and flew a patch for five years, so I wasn't mr nice guy either! Where do our members find these evil Christians? I know that most church's have a small percentage of angry members, and yes some can be angry loud and obnoxious. Worse some can use their Christianity like a badge of entitlement. Almost is bad is those that misinterpret scripture and think they should save sinners (everyone but them) and they do it uninvited and with self righteous smugness.

I can say with some degree of sureness I have met at least one example of each at sometime in my life. Many of them told me I was going to burn in hell etc unless I 'got saved' etc etc. I still love to invite them to my sunrise service or up to 'the crosses' where my dad and I set three 40' crosses (the middle is 50') on ABOTC's mountain top. I don't look the part of a believer with my devils goatee, modest ink, jewelry (piercings) and old HD (I am bike-less now, sigh) but have no reason to look like pat roberson, so I have to admit its fun to mess with my alternates every now and again.

I am saying all this who beleive I am always side with the believers or think I think Christians can do no wrong. Just one bigoted, or hypocritical etc christian is far more dangerous to my religion than a hundred internet atheists. Far far FAR worse is a online Christian leader ie a reverend, minister etc. Those parasites who lie by intentionally misinterpreting scripture, or that is a hypocritical money lover that uses his position of trust and authority to rob the faithful can destroy thousands of believers both spiritually and financially. So yes bad apples exist and some are even worse than the above Jim Jones comes to mind. But just in other groups atheists for example, there are far more good moral people than there are bad.

reva