Should ANY books be banned in schools?

If they're going to run across it, better to tell them the straight story before they screw themselves up or fill their heads with BS.

Crazy stupid, IMO. I don't think some liberals understand why we might rename military bases and leave The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn alone.

 

I support school vouchers providing they're for enough money that poor parents can afford to send their children to a decent private school without having to top up a voucher with money they don't have.

What I would do with schools is light years away from what we do now. You folks pay the bills and I don't think I have the right to teach in ways most parents of my students don't approve.

 

I don't know any woman who can get her head around the idea the government can tell women they have to remain pregnant and give birth. A significant number of women won't put up with government taking away their rights. Anti-abortionists can't win.

 

Getting the federal government and teacher's unions out of schools would improve them more than anything else. We wouldn't be having this discussion about porn for 1st graders.

 

States without unions tend to do worse than those who have them.

I don't think you understand what's actually going on in schools. I'm for vouchers, but not because schools are showing porn to children.

 

The presence of unions in a state is irrelevant to economic prosperity. Union membership has dipped considerably in recent decades. They don’t have the power they used to have, not even within the Democrat Party, which is now dominated by far left ideologues. If the unions had more clout, the Biden puppet won’t be so gun-hoe on taking away the union members’ gas powered pickups.

 

There is no The Left or The Right.

 

Oh I think I do know what's going on.

Union schools are better you say? Oh yeah, just look at Chicago and Baltimore. Some of those dumbass kids can't even read....in high school.

 

I had taken intensive classical Latin in college, as well as a semester of medieval Latin, as well as "Greek and Latin Elements in English," and wrote a paper concerning Shakespeare's syntactical change from latinate to anglo-saxon derivatives over the course of King Lear, as he achieved clarity and abandoned more sophisticated concepts, and came to grips with basic truths and human values. Maybe, I'll brush up.

 

The United States is seeing a revival in union membership. In the last six months, the National Labor Relations Board has recorded a 60 percent increase in workers filing for petitions that allow for union elections to take place.

The circumstances that have prompted these unionization efforts have some similarities with the period that brought the largest gain in union membership in U.S. history, during the 1930s.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/02/...tates is seeing,union elections to take place.

 

Since I lived in Texas, I chose Spanish as my foreign language requirement in middle school and high school. Both offered Latin, French, and German as the choices for foreign language. But since Spanish was the most predominant foreign language spoken, I chose that. Was to the point where I could read or write very well in Castilian Spanish, speaking was still a problem. In retrospect, should have chosen latin, which came with logic for some odd reason in the class, or Roman logic to be more precise.

 

Four years of high school Latin ( and two of French) channeled me into Latin courses in college. I did take a year of Spanish in college.

It turned out that German would have been far more useful to me in my profession. Scheisse!

 

My comment about teachers' unions (see above in blue) which I made to refute any claim unions are the central problem with public schools. Government-run public schools fail, unions or no unions.

Now, your more general point about unions... on balance, in their current method of operating, unions probably add to prosperity, although I think there is a better way than unions to assure the economic wellbeing of people whose income is based almost exclusively on their employment earnings.

The economic system has not been delivering for workers for more than four decades, through Democratic and Republican Presidencies without regard for whether a party holds both the White House and Congress.



The median wage for full-time workers, discounted for inflation, has been flat for 40+ years while the output per person in the country has essentially doubled. If you make your money working, you haven't done well. Worse still, if you're an older worker with outdated skills or only find part-time jobs, you're even worse off that full-time workers. Many Americans are falling out of the middle class.

Unions won't solve this problem, although they might have made it better if they hadn't been undercut by both legislation and circumstance, the latter being the tendency of unions to protect existing workers jobs when the work should be performed by someone else, somewhere else or with new skills. Businesses with unions tying them to existing workers found it difficult to compete and had a strong economic incentive to oppose unions.

True and some of the reason workers' real incomes dropped after 1980.

While something has to be done about climate change, contrary to the propaganda pushed by some on the right for political reasons, policies environmentalist activists push are often completely unrealistic. We don't have the raw materials and electricity to go heavily electric in the next decade by replacing fossil fuels to heat our homes and power cars and trucks.

Your comment about gas-powered pickups suggests another reason why unions are a problem--they might get in the way of needed reforms without a thought to the long-term consequence. Featherbedding on trains comes to mind.

 

I dunno. Spanish seems like it may have been good choice. I took French. It helps me to get around Europe, but I think I'd have gotten more mileage out of Spanish.

 

You definitely don't if you think 6-year-olds are getting introduced by their school to porn. Far more likely is they're getting a substandard education, especially if they live in lower- and middle-income communities.

States with strong unions tend to better than states without unions.

Look at Miami and St. Louis.

Anyway, getting rid of unions won't fix what's wrong with government-run public education.

They can't read because they weren't taught to read. Happens all the time because no one said, "This kids can't read and he/she needs to spend their day learning the basics." Then, the kid doesn't get that photography class they wanted so they could have some fun at school.

 

What rubbish! What percentage of child molesters, do you think are trans? Child molestation is not a new thing-- were you aware? If not, maybe ask your pal, Rep. Jim Jordan about it.

 

There was a recent thread about a school principal who got the ax, after the kids went on a field trip to museum, for which the principal failed to send home a warning to parents, that they would be seeing a replica of Michaelangelo's "David," with his slingshot, swinging loose.


But I actually came to give you a link to my post, quoting an article on book banning (in my thread on the topic, which pre-dated this one), that shows it to be at an all time high, having recently spiked sharply higher, and that many of the current book challenges can be traced back to political groups and political action committees, suggesting that this increase in banning books is an organized, political effort.

Not much mystery, as to which side, it's coming from.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ance-looks-like.609736/page-8#post-1074185583

 

I guess it depends how you define "the Western World." English-- the most widely spoken, 2nd language in the world, and the language of world commerce is, of course, a Germanic language, derived mostly from German, with a notable amount of Old Norse and Dutch, both also Germanic languages. There is some Latin (obviously moreso, in the biosciences) and Old French (particularly in the law), but they are clearly minority parts. There are few Greek root words, in English.

But, if you rate the role of the Romance languages, all rooted in Latin-- Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian-- ahead of the Germanic ones (German, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish, English, & Icelandic) then I guess your statement holds, though I am unsure of how much Greek is in all those languages, except for in French and, I'll speculate, because of proximity, perhaps in Romanian, the language of vampire film lovers.

 

But have you given your opinion on the question which is the title of this thread?

 

Yes, but as you can see from your reply quoted above, you made out that I was talking about a parent explaining sex to a son or daughter,
but I was actually talking about a parent explaining sex TOYS to a son or daughter.

Alright, well then if there is a safety concern, then I guess it's worth the discussion. I wasn't aware of this. I couldn't for the life of me think why a parent would discuss sex toy with their kid.

 

And this somehow means that porn should be in school libraries?

 

And what do you think about that?

 

Yes.

 

So tyranny of the majority then? Also, what exactly would be educational about telling kids that they should get a sex change?

 

Is that on Youtube or something?