Should ANY books be banned in schools?

Looks like you intend to impose your views on young families. Why? Let them work it out with schools and school districts.

 

Because they are my kids and I have to protect them from creeps who want to show them strap on photos and dismiss their God and Creator.

 

What do you see as "sexualizing them?" Telling them about sex toys before they hear about them from their friends or on the internet? I hope not.

 

Just a curiosity question, why do you feel the schools should have any involvement in a child's sex education at all? And that is what books about sex are. Sex happening in a book about other events and subjects, written for a young and impressionable mind, may allude to sex or sex acts, but graphic descriptions provide a distorted view of what sex is, what it's purpose is, and the responsibilities that go along with it.

 

The internet exists, so I'm not sure what difference you think it would make. Do you have some kind of study supporting irreparable harm from a child coming across porn? It's not like they're interested in it the same way an adult is, at least if you're talking about actual children and not teens. I'm just not sure where you're even coming from on this, other than cultural conditioning.

 

No, they belong to their parents, not you.

You sure talk about it a lot. Most high school students know about sex toys--some have used them--and don't see them as a big deal.

ChatGPT...

Q: "What do teens think about sex toys?"

A: "As an AI language model, I cannot speak for all teens, as individuals may have different opinions and beliefs about sex toys. However, in general, attitudes towards sex toys among teens may vary depending on factors such as cultural and religious beliefs, personal experiences, and exposure to information about sexual health and pleasure.

Some teens may view sex toys as taboo or inappropriate due to societal stigma and lack of sex education, while others may view them as a normal and healthy part of exploring their sexuality. Some may see sex toys as a way to enhance sexual pleasure and intimacy with their partner, while others may use them for solo play.

It's important to note that the use of sex toys is a personal choice, and individuals should make informed decisions based on their comfort levels and desires. If a teen is considering using a sex toy, it's important to research and understand how to use them safely and effectively, and to prioritize consent and communication with any sexual partners."​

Schools shouldn't defend or promote religious beliefs.

 

They are my children, no clue what you are talking about. The school I pay for my children to attend has mass twice a week and prays before lunch everyday. It's an awesome community.

 

Seems like something that should be up to the parents of the students at each school.

 

Yes there is. And sex education, as in basic, accurate birds and bees, is VERY different than teachers talking about gender fluidity and hiding it from parents. No one with actual children wants a stranger talking with their 1st grader about how boys can be girls or vice versa, BEHIND THEIR BACKS or their kids reading books in the school library showing minors having oral sex.

 

Indeed.

There is no evidence that nudity or porn causes harm to kids who happen to view it. The taboo around it does more damage th an anything else.

And their simply seeing it it isn't sexualizing them.

 

I think banning (or only permitting) a specified list of books is ridiculously impractical since new (and updated) books are published faster than the list could be realistically updated.

I think the rational system is for there to be general common-sense regulatory and legal restrictions that the school administrators and librarians need to work within but otherwise they should be free to hold whatever books they feel are suitable or useful. Just like any other school decisions, relevant school boards or councils (including parent representatives) could certainly express an opinion but don't think a small number of parents expressing a personal objection that the majority don't share should be automatic reason for banning a book (or indeed, adding one).

I expect this is how it has long worked anyway and still does in the vast majority of places without any major issues. It only seems to become an issue when some people want to make it political.

 

The guy who said "so you're ok with pornography in school then".

 

Parents want sex ed in schools.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5495344/

https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00276-7/fulltext

https://siecus.org/survey-says-people-support-sex-ed/#:~:text=Eighty%2Dnine%20percent%20of%20likely,sex%20education%20in%20high%20school.

There should trusted source of information. Parents would much rather have their son or daughter ask questions of their teacher. Kids want to know what **it** feels like, how people go about it, masturbation, foreplay, erections, body parts, pregnancy, abortion, homosexuality--lots of times it's better to ask someone other than mom or dad.

Telling kids about anal sex, bdsm, exhibitionism, etc. isn't advocating it.

 

I'm afraid you're unlikely to get your way in most public school settings as the parents, most 30-50, want sex education that's comprehensive and age appropriate.

 

Private schools? Not our business. We're talking about K-12 public schools.

 

I think it was interesting that when a news outlet covering this story the reporter tried to show a few of the book's content - as was blocked by network censors. If you can't show it on the air, it's not suitable for young children.
I think there has to be a graduated scale on what material is allow; age appropriateness is the key. kids in early primary grades are just beginning to realize there's a difference between boys and girls; why complicate the issue by talking about girls that think they're boys or girls that want to be boys, or people that dress like girls but aren't. Some of that, with parental consent, may be appropriate approaching puberty. Parental consent is, IMHO, essential.

 

Private schools of yours are your business.

 

When did I say that regarding a parent "explaining sex" to their kid?

 

Why is it so important for parents to teach their kids about sex toys before their friends or the internet do?

 

Are there any limits to this?

 

So what that the internet exists?

 

With no limits?

 

"Hiding it from parents" is the problem.

What makes you think all sorts of things happen behind parents' backs?

 

You know what it sounds like to me? It seems like some want to abdicate their responsibility as parents and leave their duty to explain sex and sexual norms to kids up to the public schools, or worse just some innocent naive kids interpretation of whatever.

It's like they want abnormal grandkids or something.

 

Well, its probably in our best interest as a nation to not allow parents to institutionalize teaching their kids that they have to kill themselves before they have children of their own. That would end civilization. So, no, I can't say 'no limits'... but outside absurdities like that, it seems to me we shouldn't have much say in how others want to teach their kids, otherwise we're just setting the precedent for the crazy people to be able to dictate how we teach our kids. The best (not great, just best) situation is decentralizing the authority of what children are taught. If a majority of parents at a school want to put 'you should get a sex change' into the curriculum, then thats how its gonna be. Though we should create a better system for parents to more easily move their children to schools that arent run by lunatic cults...